EwingsGlass wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:BRIGGS wrote:fwk00 wrote:Only because a cohort of Knicks fans believe the team is desperate for a point guard are all these PGs rated so highly.Its appropriate that Ball is listed as #1 - a guarantee that he's an over-rated bust.
Most of these players could just as well be rated 11 - 20, IMO. A profoundly young front-loaded draft set of rankings. Regrets will abound.
Thankfully the Knicks are a phase away from pure speculation and can well afford a 20+ year old pick
When all is said and done — James wiseman will be the best player in the draft. His measurable scare the same as Embiid and I think he will be more versatile and a lot healthier. Look out if Atlanta gets him.
For Wiseman to be more versatile than Embiid he'll need to shoot a heckuva a lot better. Look at Embiid's college highlights. He doesn't approach Embiid as a post player or passer. Embiid's footwork on offense and defense was off the charts. He made Wiseman look clumsy by comparison. You can make the case that we need talent and if Wiseman falls to us, we should probably grab him. That depends on how you view Topping, Okoro, Vassel etc. Okoro remind me of Ron Arrest and his versatility is insane. If he becomes just a decent spot up shooter then he will become a serious problem. And it's not like his shot is broken.
Wiseman doesn't have much college experience to draw from, so its hard to compare their collegiate experiences. Wiseman is more like a Mitch Robinson since he left Memphis to train for the NBA after getting a 12 game suspension. His further development is under the radar even though he is well regarded as a lottery pick. I'd expect him to be consensus #1 after the combine and private workouts.
I just don't know what the Knicks would do with Robinson and Wiseman.
You can compare their movements on the court and also see that Wiseman was clumsier in the post against weaker competition. People were comparing Embiid to Olajuwan for chrissakes.
Sorry. I wasn't arguing that Wiseman is more polished than Embiid was. He hasn't shown that at all. I was only saying its hard to get a good read on where Wiseman is now based on his 3 collegiate games -- since he has been doing draft prep since February.
My opinion is that his physical characteristics are the best in the draft for a big man and that we don't know where he is in his development. I think vs other draft prospects (not Embiid) he will rise in the rankings based on the limited glimpses we are getting through social media.
Oh, my bad. I get what you're saying. I can't argue that Wiseman isn't a beast. I can argue that Okongwu is a better from a run/jump, lateral quickness perspective. Plus, he's more skilled. He's also older and more experienced, so that needs to be taken into consideration. Who do you think has the better chance of developing faceup skills? It's not an overwhelming advantage for Okongwu, but he is further along. If Wiseman kills it in workouts and shows that potential, i'm guessing it would make for a tough choice. I'm leaning Okongwu if they have to decide between the two.
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8/21/2020 5:15 AM