Nalod wrote:Add knicks trading Ariza for Steve Francis. Not that Reezy was a star, but he was a very good player for a very long time! Francis was cooked when he got here.
If Larry wanted that deal you say no. I don't care whose to blame. It sucked.
Some Andrea is not reading how much we think he sucks.

What was wrong with Stevie Franchise when he got here? We picked him in his age 28-29 seasons - no notable injuries that required surgery. He was out of the league at age 30.

Tracy McGrady - his career ended early too (age 32). We got him at age 30, right in what should be his prime.

Penny Hardaway - I can't believe he was a Knick for 3 seasons. Age 32-34. I can understand him having issues after his bad injuries early in his career... and he was understood to be damaged goods.

I don't think we gave up the farm for any of these guys, but it's a little sad how poorly things worked out.

Nalod wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Nalod wrote:

But if you want to focus on two Utah Role players thinking they destroyed the franchise have at it. The big picture is there was lots of idiot moves to aggregate our franchise to the gutter over time.

That is not what I have been thinking or saying at all. But no point in belaboring this. Idiot moves are idiot moves, fine.

We all tend to look at the past as a blur. you said:

The Anderson-Eisley trade was truly pathetic in the sense that it offered ZERO upside and ZERO hope for improvement.

And I stand behind what I have said. But not behind the way you choose to interpret it.

And my wife is hotter than Bargnani's. )))