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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
7/24/2020 1:15 PM
I'm still trying to find the video that showed his weaknesses - this has them about halfway through. The fact he played 3 games or whatever, hurts. But, I just see a really big guy that to me, doesn't have the grace on the court that Mitchell Robinson has. To me, he'd be a downgrade with hope of potentially becoming better than Mitch is. If Ball is there when we pick, I think I pick him first, then if he is gone, look at next available BPA. |
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
7/24/2020 1:18 PM
franco12 wrote:I'm not sold on taking him #1. If the Knicks get No#1 overall, hypothetically, they should trade back, if they can find a trade partner. They would more likely find a trade at the No#2 or No#3 slots depending on who went first overall if they didn't get the top pick. |
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38411 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
7/24/2020 2:13 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Uptown wrote:Starting at the 4:45 mark, you get to see some of his potential offensively... I would lock him up and dunk on his arse! |
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Nalod
Posts: 71155 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
7/25/2020 1:24 AM
Those Wiseman Videos.......so impressionable!
My issue with ball is he does well and his father rises in his seat as he if has done forth brought our savior and won’t stop.........The mouth, the self promotion accolades.......Not in the garden. for all the shyt we been thru the garden is still a class act. No room for clowns. |
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Chandler
Posts: 26778 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
7/25/2020 12:56 PM LAST EDITED: 7/25/2020 12:56 PM
can wiseman play D, including out on the perimeter? If not I'll pass. We've seen this movie before
i'd rather build a defense around a center, than an offense (at least in today's rules) (5)(7)
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38411 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
7/25/2020 1:48 PM
Nalod wrote:Those Wiseman Videos.......so impressionable!I think father Ball would be controlled a bit here. Fans here will actually get on his case if he is ****ing up team dynamics. This ain't LA |
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TheGame
Posts: 26632 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/25/2020 5:09 PM LAST EDITED: 7/25/2020 5:11 PM
Uptown wrote:TheGame wrote:I like Wiseman. I think he has the potential to be a Joel Embiid-type player. But the Knicks have needed a top-flight PG for the past 15 years, and I think Mitch is going to be a DeAndre Jordan type center next season. Ball has the potential to be the best PG we have had since Mark Jackson. I think the pick has to be Ball. The only way I draft Wiseman is if I had a trade for Mitch where we move up by trading Mitch and possibly getting Killian Hayes and a future pick. If we came out of the draft with Wiseman and Killian Hayes and a future pick, then I could get behind that move. Picking Ball is not a matter of just "we need a pg." I think Ball will be a 20 pt, 9 ast, 5 rb, 1 stl, 1 blk, 45%, 36%, 80% type player in 2-3 years. That is All-Star production at the point position. This kid has his brother's ability to pass, but is far more creative with the ball, and has much better scoring instincts. Just like with Lonzo, he is going to have to work on his shot, but Lonzo has turned himself into a solid shooter, and I think Ball will be an even better shooter/scorer in a couple of years. I think Ball is the best player in the draft, and he and Barrett will give us a Washington Wizards-type back court combo in a couple of years. Wiseman is a good prospect, but I would not draft him at the expense of Ball, when we already have a pretty good center prospect in Mitch. Trust the Process
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ESOMKnicks
Posts: 21420 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/14/2015 Member: #6064 |
7/26/2020 6:22 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Nalod wrote:Those Wiseman Videos.......so impressionable!I think father Ball would be controlled a bit here. Fans here will actually get on his case if he is ****ing up team dynamics. This ain't LA
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