BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:

doomed wrote:FVV is a product of their system? Why can’t he be that same product here in the right system?

I’d rather see the Knicks get Ingram but at some point the Knicks have to spend real money on real players. Patience? You’re kidding right?

FVV plays next to all star vet Lowry, Marc Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka and had Kawhi.
FVV with our roster is not the same player.

I like Ingram. Kid is a dead eye shooter, rail thin......Great compliment to Zion.
Could give Knox more time to breath and develop to either keep or increased trade value down the road.

Would love to sign Ingrsm, but he would have to be an idiot to leave Zion to play alongside Knox! The Pels have a young, athletic, exciting squad that looks to be a future upper echelon team in this league. At the same time, it wouldn't be smart for the Pels to let Ingram walk either..

We’re not getting branden ingraham it’s rediculous to think the pelicans won’t match any offer

But a player who is just as good is unrestricted. Christian woods

Christian Woods stats were good, but he never looked very impressive in the games I saw (I know that’s not the most important thing), are there any mixtapes where he actually looks fun to watch?

Also isn’t he more of a C than a PF? Could he really play alongside Mitch?

smackeddog wrote:

franco12 wrote:I didn't realize Fred VanVleet was an unrestricted FA. I thought he was restricted.

We should max him out, within reason. THE BIGGEST HOLE on this roster is a legit PG that can run the offense and shoot.

The amount of three point shooting available in this years free agency is ridiculous

Joe Harris
Bertans
Hayward
VanVleet
Christian Wood
Gallo
Malik Beasley
Ingram
Buddy Hield (not a FA but likely available in a trade)
Fournier
Ibaka
Jermaine Grant

All are late 38% to early 40s%

Any 7 guys on this list would have been better then every FA we signed last off season

knicks1248 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

franco12 wrote:I didn't realize Fred VanVleet was an unrestricted FA. I thought he was restricted.

We should max him out, within reason. THE BIGGEST HOLE on this roster is a legit PG that can run the offense and shoot.

The amount of three point shooting available in this years free agency is ridiculous

Joe Harris
Bertans
Hayward
VanVleet
Christian Wood
Gallo
Malik Beasley
Ingram
Buddy Hield (not a FA but likely available in a trade)
Fournier
Ibaka
Jermaine Grant

All are late 38% to early 40s%

Any 7 guys on this list would have been better then every FA we signed last off season

Wouldn’t be mad about Wood or Bertans at all.

TheGame wrote:They definitely want to keep him, but I am with you. The Knicks should aggressively go after him. If they can convince Ingram to come here, the Knicks could offer the Pelicans a package of Knox, Dennis Smith, and a future 1st rounder. If Ingram tells the Pelican he wants to go, then this might be enough to convince the Pelicans to accept a sign and trade. A team of Frank, RJ, Ingram, Randle, and Mitchell would be pretty solid.

I'd expect the Pelicans to ask for RJ. (We should say no. Then they'll say how about Mitch... and we'd better still say no, how about one of our 1st rounders instead?)

franco12 wrote:

TheGame wrote:

mikesknicks wrote:I know it is a long-shot but people acting like the Pelicans can pay all of these players? They have Holiday on a big deal and Zo and Hart need to be paid soon. They did not extend him for a reason and now they have to give him the Max in a lowered cap with all teams losing money. It's not out of the question but unlikely. I just don't get people saying it like it is out of the question what if he does not want to be in Zions shadow? It does not have to be with the Knicks but any team that can give him the max.

They definitely want to keep him, but I am with you. The Knicks should aggressively go after him. If they can convince Ingram to come here, the Knicks could offer the Pelicans a package of Knox, Dennis Smith, and a future 1st rounder. If Ingram tells the Pelican he wants to go, then this might be enough to convince the Pelicans to accept a sign and trade. A team of Frank, RJ, Ingram, Randle, and Mitchell would be pretty solid.

I love Frank, but how can anyone put him out there as our starting PG next year? He's shown flashes, but he is still a giant question mark as to whether he will be in the league with a next contract.

I have zero problem doing it. If we decide to not draft a PG in october or draft one that isn’t ready yet, I have no problem with giving Frank the keys and full green light for a shortened season, to see what he can do.

Allanfan20 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TheGame wrote:

mikesknicks wrote:I know it is a long-shot but people acting like the Pelicans can pay all of these players? They have Holiday on a big deal and Zo and Hart need to be paid soon. They did not extend him for a reason and now they have to give him the Max in a lowered cap with all teams losing money. It's not out of the question but unlikely. I just don't get people saying it like it is out of the question what if he does not want to be in Zions shadow? It does not have to be with the Knicks but any team that can give him the max.

They definitely want to keep him, but I am with you. The Knicks should aggressively go after him. If they can convince Ingram to come here, the Knicks could offer the Pelicans a package of Knox, Dennis Smith, and a future 1st rounder. If Ingram tells the Pelican he wants to go, then this might be enough to convince the Pelicans to accept a sign and trade. A team of Frank, RJ, Ingram, Randle, and Mitchell would be pretty solid.

I love Frank, but how can anyone put him out there as our starting PG next year? He's shown flashes, but he is still a giant question mark as to whether he will be in the league with a next contract.

I have zero problem doing it. If we decide to not draft a PG in october or draft one that isn’t ready yet, I have no problem with giving Frank the keys and full green light for a shortened season, to see what he can do.

I don't think you can do that. Frank might be ready, but I think he is still a ways away.

As a GM, if you go into the season with Frank as your starting PG, that is some bad GMing, on par with Fizdale's idea of starting RJ as his PG!

Even if we simply bring Payton back, the lack of talent and depth at PG is criminal.

Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:

doomed wrote:FVV is a product of their system? Why can’t he be that same product here in the right system?

I’d rather see the Knicks get Ingram but at some point the Knicks have to spend real money on real players. Patience? You’re kidding right?

FVV plays next to all star vet Lowry, Marc Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka and had Kawhi.
FVV with our roster is not the same player.

I like Ingram. Kid is a dead eye shooter, rail thin......Great compliment to Zion.
Could give Knox more time to breath and develop to either keep or increased trade value down the road.

Would love to sign Ingrsm, but he would have to be an idiot to leave Zion to play alongside Knox! The Pels have a young, athletic, exciting squad that looks to be a future upper echelon team in this league. At the same time, it wouldn't be smart for the Pels to let Ingram walk either..

We’re not getting branden ingraham it’s rediculous to think the pelicans won’t match any offer

But a player who is just as good is unrestricted. Christian woods

Wood is finally starting to realize his potential but he's not as good as Ingram at this point. With that said, if I'm the Knicks, I would definitely offer Wood a contract. He plays both sides of the ball for the most part and can shoot the 3. A front court of Robinson, Wood and Vassell is intriguing.

Mitch, Woods and Vassell as our starting frontline, would be a dramatic improvement. Especially on the defensive end! With a backcourt of RJ & Frankie? Scary D.

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:

doomed wrote:FVV is a product of their system? Why can’t he be that same product here in the right system?

I’d rather see the Knicks get Ingram but at some point the Knicks have to spend real money on real players. Patience? You’re kidding right?

FVV plays next to all star vet Lowry, Marc Gasol, Siakam, Ibaka and had Kawhi.
FVV with our roster is not the same player.

I like Ingram. Kid is a dead eye shooter, rail thin......Great compliment to Zion.
Could give Knox more time to breath and develop to either keep or increased trade value down the road.

Would love to sign Ingrsm, but he would have to be an idiot to leave Zion to play alongside Knox! The Pels have a young, athletic, exciting squad that looks to be a future upper echelon team in this league. At the same time, it wouldn't be smart for the Pels to let Ingram walk either..

We’re not getting branden ingraham it’s rediculous to think the pelicans won’t match any offer

But a player who is just as good is unrestricted. Christian woods

I am sorry you can’t try to tell us about reality and then say Christian Wood is as good as Brandon Ingram.

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

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Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)

Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/shwinnypooh/status/1275454091557134342

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/shwinnypooh/status/1275456069695766534

Seems Wood isn’t as good a 3pt shooter as his overall percentage appears to show- can only hit wide open 3s (expect those to vanish once teams lock in on him)

Yep, that's why it's important to look at all the factors before you throw a max at a guy. How many wide open threes would Christian see on the Knicks?

Are you asking this because of the rest of the knicks roster?

You can't possible think this roster will look anything like last season, with 7 FA, a new coach, new prez and bunch of avg young talent.