knicks1248 wrote:We haven't got a single big man that shoots 40+% from 3's and not a single player on the entire roster shooting 80+% in ft's.

So you know why people dump on you so much? It's stuff like this.

Only 5 big men in the entire LEAGUE shoot over 40% from 3pt land. And there are 3 guys on the Knicks who shoot over 80% from FT.

Use this website before you just make up stuff: https://www.basketball-reference.com/

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:We haven't got a single big man that shoots 40+% from 3's and not a single player on the entire roster shooting 80+% in ft's.

So you know why people dump on you so much? It's stuff like this.

Only 5 big men in the entire LEAGUE shoot over 40% from 3pt land. And there are 3 guys on the Knicks who shoot over 80% from FT.

Use this website before you just make up stuff: https://www.basketball-reference.com/

Nobody dumps on me, You and Nolad (and sometime fish) are the only 2 who dispute every thing i say, and when you can't prove me wrong all i hear is crickets.

what is the point your trying to make?

It's either you like the trade idea or you don't, that's totally you opinion.

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:We haven't got a single big man that shoots 40+% from 3's and not a single player on the entire roster shooting 80+% in ft's.

So you know why people dump on you so much? It's stuff like this.

Only 5 big men in the entire LEAGUE shoot over 40% from 3pt land. And there are 3 guys on the Knicks who shoot over 80% from FT.

Use this website before you just make up stuff: https://www.basketball-reference.com/

Nobody dumps on me, You and Nolad (and sometime fish) are the only 2 who dispute every thing i say, and when you can't prove me wrong all i hear is crickets.

what is the point your trying to make?

It's either you like the trade idea or you don't, that's totally you opinion.

That you just make stuff up, and then no one really takes you seriously

I'm talking about on BOL...smh

knicks1248 wrote:I actually think Bol is going to be better than Mitch, his Inside outside game is 10x better than mitch and more suitable to today's game, he hits Ft's above 85%, and 3's above 40%, his handle is way better than mitch, all he has to do is get stronger and wiser and he's going to be a a problem.

You may not even have to give up Mitch to get him, maybe Brazdeikis, frank or DSJ .

He's a 2nd round pick playing in the G league, how much can they really want for him, it would at least make up for losing KP who has a very similar game.

There would have been and is no reason to trade him unless blown away by an offer. He was a projected lotto pick that dropped to the 2nd round after getting injured. They will just hold on to him and see if they could have him reach his potential then trade him as max value when the time comes to have to pay him if he does. There is more logic in holding on to him and trying to have him reach his potential than trading him away at his lowest value.

With that Bol Bol hasn't played in one real NBA game yet, and hasn't proven he could stay healthy for a full 82 game schedule.

knicks1248 wrote:The bottom line was that BOL is one of the best 3 point shooting big men in the league...

The distinction you want to make is Bol Bol will be able to get his shot off at plus three point range anytime he wants to BUT ONLY in any catch and shoot situation.

Unlike this father, who shot the ball basically against one of his ears ( Manute was taller, so that changed all the variables of his shot), Bol Bol tends to set much lower, even lower than other big men shorter than him relatively. Bol Bol's natural mechanics begins to negate the advantage of his height/standing reach. In short, he needs to change his shot.

He moves well for his size, but not well for the speed of the NBA. If he can rework his shot, he can offer extreme floor spacing, which is valuable, and reduces his wear and tear. Jason Kidd played for so long because he stopped going to the rim, he basically cut the floor into one third, he only ran from three point line to three point line.

People are going to argue more weight/more strength, but that's only going to create a multiplier effect on his injury risk. He's just not built that way. To be effective ( reduce the size of the court like Kidd), he needs to actually be able to guard on the perimeter and use his length there. But he can't do that because his lateral movement is clunky/too slow/too uncoordinated. For his size, in a vacuum, that he can move like he does now is incredible. But for his size AGAINST NBA SPEED/STRENGTH, he just can't physically do it. He's a low BBIQ guy so that negates a lot of his value protecting the rim. His footwork and timing and situational awareness on the defensive end is kind of ****ty. In short, he has no real projectible defensive role.

Here's his one true advantage on defense. He can knock the **** out of anyone he wants. The refs are going to just walk away from it. If you let a walking Pocky stick give you a forearms shiver then you deserve it. Other big men are going to test him and try to bully him down, he's going to need to beat someone down. Take the suspension, take the fine and lay some mother****er out. I suspect someone will argue he will be foul prone. Well if your ceiling is 12-15 minutes a game, I don't see how that's going to be matter all that much.

Bol Bol hasn't proven anything with his three point shot. BUT if he works at it, he can be lethal at plus 3 point range and offer a team extreme floor spacing in some VERY SPECIFIC MATCUPS. But something like that takes years. More critically he has to actually fill a role on defense to stay on the court. Until then, it doesn't matter how much he shoots from downtown.

The real problem is his low BBIQ. It impacts everything.