knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The one thing Carmelo could’ve done for this franchise is to say hold the assets— I’m coming anyway. He didn’t do that.

Owners were telling the players they were going to lock them out and rein in free agency. He wanted a deal under the old cba with the team he wanted to play for. Knicks pulled the trigger. Too bad about Moz. That pushed me over the top

Gallo and chandler where injury prone, mosgov had a handful of good games, and you almost always will give up a 1st round for a all star.

we had to pull that trigger in order to try and keep up with the jones's

Thank you BRIGGS, for bringing back the need for the same old history lessons while promoting the standard "yoots only" histrionics.

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?

Unless you're going to sing the praises of half a season of Mr. Wine Bath, tell me where the franchise was before Carmelo joined the team and what happened immediately afterwards? In terms of wins and losses. For three full seasons. With the additions of nothing but old flotsam and other random pieces of **** during that time. Hopefully you don't need a billionaire owner/bad guitar player to explain something like that to you.

I forget where Bob McAdoo was in the running for League MVP, set franchise records, won the division (without making anyone on the team any better), and lead the team in assists. Or singlehandedly dragged the team to the playoffs.

Maybe you could explain that to us all. I doubt it seriously, but please, carry on.

Love BK. Maybe you'd like to bring BK back instead?

I’m not interested in bringing BK back. The whole theme of the post is to look forward and not back?
Jrod Bob McAdoo was as good or better than Carmelo Anthony in his prime. He also played on great great Lakers teams that won championships. He’s got more than 1 ring

BRIGGS, Nazr Mohammed has a ring. Maybe he's a better Knick than Melo, too. You're hopeless.

Peace.

Jrod
Bob Mcadoo was an NBA mvp in 1975 and came in top 3 in voting 3x

Im not sure you know who you are talking about?

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?

Unless you're going to sing the praises of half a season of Mr. Wine Bath, tell me where the franchise was before Carmelo joined the team and what happened immediately afterwards? In terms of wins and losses. For three full seasons. With the additions of nothing but old flotsam and other random pieces of **** during that time. Hopefully you don't need a billionaire owner/bad guitar player to explain something like that to you.

I forget where Bob McAdoo was in the running for League MVP, set franchise records, won the division (without making anyone on the team any better), and lead the team in assists. Or singlehandedly dragged the team to the playoffs.

Maybe you could explain that to us all. I doubt it seriously, but please, carry on.

Love BK. Maybe you'd like to bring BK back instead?

I’m not interested in bringing BK back. The whole theme of the post is to look forward and not back?
Jrod Bob McAdoo was as good or better than Carmelo Anthony in his prime. He also played on great great Lakers teams that won championships. He’s got more than 1 ring

BRIGGS, Nazr Mohammed has a ring. Maybe he's a better Knick than Melo, too. You're hopeless.

Peace.

Jrod
Bob Mcadoo was an NBA mvp in 1975 and came in top 3 in voting 3x

Im not sure you know who you are talking about?

And he did that with the Knicks, right? And you're talking about what, again?

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If he comes he will be a low impact role player. Not a main piece. I don't see the big deal either way. If he comes, fine, it would be a feel good thing. He's done more than everyone else combined for this franchise in 20 years.

Nah. Take a look at the team record while he was here. He was here 6.5 years — we averaged 29 wins a year the last 4. An equivalent( actually superior) Knicks player was Bob Macadoo. I’ve never seen his name mentioned. Accept for a 3 year period before Ewing the Knicks were always a decent team. This period of time( the last twenty years or so) simply need to be forgotten. I’m not cheering for shtty teams and no one else is either. Enough with Carmelo— it’s an unnecessary divergence. Do u really want Carmelo to take even 5 minutes of pt from any young player. Honestly. The correct answer is hel to the no.
I think there’s a chance to get better here. We don’t need it( Melo)

You bring Melo back if you have the right pieces in place, we need to stop blaming players for not playing above and beyond their skills.

Can you blame melo for Amare breaking down, can you blame him for Tysons injuries, can you blame him for KPs age, can you blame him for having only 2 decent pg's to play with (kidd and felton).

Mills took over and turn the roster in to lab rats, with some fake rebuild, experimenting with different players every 90 days..

I don’t care— I just want to look forward. Looking behind has zero value

This from someone who just mentioned a player from 35 years ago.

McAdoo played for parts of three seasons. He joined the franchise immediately after the glory years and had little to no impact in changing the downward spiral. The team made the playoffs once. Then he was gone.

Truly, a great comparison. You are dumber than a post with a bag of hammers.

Carmelo’s value to this team is no more than Bob McAdoo. I missed where Carmelo sent the franchise back on an upswing. Maybe you can call Jim Dolan on your bat phone and have him come on the board to explain it to us?

Bernard King was more of a guy who deserved franchise praise— only dogged by a bad injury. But he single handily made the team viable when he played. Carmelo was nothing much more than a good player on a bad team. He could not make players around him better. Case closed?

Unless you're going to sing the praises of half a season of Mr. Wine Bath, tell me where the franchise was before Carmelo joined the team and what happened immediately afterwards? In terms of wins and losses. For three full seasons. With the additions of nothing but old flotsam and other random pieces of **** during that time. Hopefully you don't need a billionaire owner/bad guitar player to explain something like that to you.

I forget where Bob McAdoo was in the running for League MVP, set franchise records, won the division (without making anyone on the team any better), and lead the team in assists. Or singlehandedly dragged the team to the playoffs.

Maybe you could explain that to us all. I doubt it seriously, but please, carry on.

Love BK. Maybe you'd like to bring BK back instead?

I’m not interested in bringing BK back. The whole theme of the post is to look forward and not back?
Jrod Bob McAdoo was as good or better than Carmelo Anthony in his prime. He also played on great great Lakers teams that won championships. He’s got more than 1 ring

BRIGGS, Nazr Mohammed has a ring. Maybe he's a better Knick than Melo, too. You're hopeless.

Peace.

Jrod
Bob Mcadoo was an NBA mvp in 1975 and came in top 3 in voting 3x

Im not sure you know who you are talking about?

And he did that with the Knicks, right? And you're talking about what, again?

Exactly right! He did what with the Knicks— same thing we can say about Carmelo — what did Carmelo do that Bob Mcadoo didn’t? We averaged 29 wins per season in Carmelos last 4 years. Good player bad team— it was a waste of 7 years.

Marv wrote:just
say
no

period

As above - his time in the blue and orange is now done.

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:The one thing Carmelo could’ve done for this franchise is to say hold the assets— I’m coming anyway. He didn’t do that.

Owners were telling the players they were going to lock them out and rein in free agency. He wanted a deal under the old cba with the team he wanted to play for. Knicks pulled the trigger. Too bad about Moz. That pushed me over the top

Gallo and chandler where injury prone, mosgov had a handful of good games, and you almost always will give up a 1st round for a all star.

we had to pull that trigger in order to try and keep up with the jones's

Trading high picks has been a disaster for the Knicks. The Knicks need luck because when it comes to team building the ny Knicks have been the worst franchise in all of sports given our advantages.
It kind of stinks when you hear KD say no one wants to be a Knick. Need to change that

If your not open to any kind of scenario in where Melo would be a solid fit, that would mean you just don't like melo.

Since when is playing for a losing franchise a cool thing to do, that's what KD means.

You want players to come to NY because the city never sleeps and you can get lost of doe to play losing basketball?

I want players who compliment each other and are highly competitive and play to win, doesn't matter the age, race, color, height.

Identify the roles that you need, and seek the players who can fill that role, as oppose to getting players and asking the world of them and when they fail we trash them as crack heads..

I am not open to Carmelo coming back and either is 85-90% of the Ny Knicks fans. We don’t need a distraction — we need focus

was Rodaman was a distraction to a 72 win bulls team, was LBj a distraction when fans and media crucified him for taking his talents to Miami, was KD a distraction for the GSW.

I'm not advocating for his return, I just have no problem if it happens. He's a solid professional and role player at this juncture of his career. perhaps your thinking mid to late 20's Carmelo

Rodman was a distraction but he was a solid contributor to a contending team. We not.
Melo was what he was. Unless this team changes drastically there really is no point to bringing him here.
Its not that he’d be a “Problem or distraction”, its “what’s the point?”
Not just for the knicks, but for him. Not all veteran players are great teachers and lockeroom guys. Not saying melo is “bad”, just can’t think of him being cool with 7-12 min off the bench or limited like Vince carter was. If he really wants a role like that and trusting he can fulfil it then I’m good.

CrushAlot wrote:I don’t think Melo coming back to nyc is a priority for Rose. He didn’t raid the CAA cupboard or go the cronyism route when he hired Brock Aller. If Melo comes back I think it would be a favor and a farewell tour role similar to Vince Carter. In a mentor role, playing 15 minutes a night, I think Melo would be okay. I don’t think Melo is ready to say he is done after next year. He is in a great situation in Portland. My guess is if a Melo return happens it won’t be next year.

CrushAlot wrote:I don’t think Melo coming back to nyc is a priority for Rose. He didn’t raid the CAA cupboard or go the cronyism route when he hired Brock Aller. If Melo comes back I think it would be a favor and a farewell tour role similar to Vince Carter. In a mentor role, playing 15 minutes a night, I think Melo would be okay. I don’t think Melo is ready to say he is done after next year. He is in a great situation in Portland. My guess is if a Melo return happens it won’t be next year.

how you can say what he thinks?

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I don’t think Melo coming back to nyc is a priority for Rose. He didn’t raid the CAA cupboard or go the cronyism route when he hired Brock Aller. If Melo comes back I think it would be a favor and a farewell tour role similar to Vince Carter. In a mentor role, playing 15 minutes a night, I think Melo would be okay. I don’t think Melo is ready to say he is done after next year. He is in a great situation in Portland. My guess is if a Melo return happens it won’t be next year.

how you can say what he thinks?

I didn’t say I knew what either of them thought. I said I think. Thought that was a clear way to state an opinion. Also, my guess is just that, a guess.

Sorry, what i take to help me sleep makes me grumpy and I wrote this as I went off to sleep. Wall of worry out there in the real world!