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knicks1248
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2/12/2020  4:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2020  4:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
technomaster wrote:As much as it might hurt from a pride standpoint (I'm NBA talent, damn it!), these guys need real game action to reinforce what they work on in practice.

There's nothing like reading and reacting against live competition.

Also note that in the G-league, the most dedicated players there are scraping and clawing for their livelihood. The competition is real and they want to win too!


It depends. I think getting smoked by Mook in practice everyday is way more valuable than getting 30 on some fringe dude from D2. I realize the competition is real, but the talent, for the most part, is not. There is no real answer, I guess. Depends on the situation and player.

Playing against guys 10x better than you is not a always a good way to get better, or everybody would skip college and the G league would be a waste of time.

I bet you any amount of money that if iggy is here next season, he will be better than knox

Yes, depends on the player and situation. Trevor Ariza credited his improvement to getting smoked by Kobe every day in practice. It's not a zero sum game.

I guess you can look at it as every player responds different.. Knox doesn't play with a high amount of energy consistently and his IQ is low as hell...plus whatever it is we are doing with him right now, it's pretty safe to say, IT AIN'T WORKING, time to try something different

Frank can't shoot, and it's pretty embarrassing to be in the league for 3 yrs getting consistent minutes and haven't scored more than 18 points ( and he's only done that twice) in any of the close to 200 games he's played in...

All mitch can do is dunk on the offense end, in this DAY and AGE where centers are shooting like guards on a normal bases, he's scared to death to shoot a jumper regardless to how open he is(just 5 jumpers in 116 games played)

If these are not grounds for G league stints, it's no wonder we are far behind the rest of the NBA in the development dept..

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2/12/2020  5:02 PM
Idk about demoting Knox to g league...I would give Iggy a shot tho.
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BigDaddyG
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2/12/2020  5:21 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
technomaster wrote:As much as it might hurt from a pride standpoint (I'm NBA talent, damn it!), these guys need real game action to reinforce what they work on in practice.

There's nothing like reading and reacting against live competition.

Also note that in the G-league, the most dedicated players there are scraping and clawing for their livelihood. The competition is real and they want to win too!


It depends. I think getting smoked by Mook in practice everyday is way more valuable than getting 30 on some fringe dude from D2. I realize the competition is real, but the talent, for the most part, is not. There is no real answer, I guess. Depends on the situation and player.

Playing against guys 10x better than you is not a always a good way to get better, or everybody would skip college and the G league would be a waste of time.

I bet you any amount of money that if iggy is here next season, he will be better than knox

Yes, depends on the player and situation. Trevor Ariza credited his improvement to getting smoked by Kobe every day in practice. It's not a zero sum game.

I guess you can look at it as every player responds different.. Knox doesn't play with a high amount of energy consistently and his IQ is low as hell...plus whatever it is we are doing with him right now, it's pretty safe to say, IT AIN'T WORKING, time to try something different

Frank can't shoot, and it's pretty embarrassing to be in the league for 3 yrs getting consistent minutes and haven't scored more than 18 points ( and he's only done that twice) in any of the close to 200 games he's played in...

All mitch can do is dunk on the offense end, in this DAY and AGE where centers are shooting like guards on a normal bases, he's scared to death to shoot a jumper regardless to how open he is(just 5 jumpers in 116 games played)

If these are not grounds for G league stints, it's no wonder we are far behind the rest of the NBA in the development dept..


Mitch is a contributing member or the team. Bam Adebayo isn't shooting threes. Maybe the heat should send him down to the G-League? Players have developed for decades without a G-League. The problems here are deeper than Knox or Frank not going to the G-League.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
knicks1248
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2/12/2020  6:11 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
technomaster wrote:As much as it might hurt from a pride standpoint (I'm NBA talent, damn it!), these guys need real game action to reinforce what they work on in practice.

There's nothing like reading and reacting against live competition.

Also note that in the G-league, the most dedicated players there are scraping and clawing for their livelihood. The competition is real and they want to win too!


It depends. I think getting smoked by Mook in practice everyday is way more valuable than getting 30 on some fringe dude from D2. I realize the competition is real, but the talent, for the most part, is not. There is no real answer, I guess. Depends on the situation and player.

Playing against guys 10x better than you is not a always a good way to get better, or everybody would skip college and the G league would be a waste of time.

I bet you any amount of money that if iggy is here next season, he will be better than knox

Yes, depends on the player and situation. Trevor Ariza credited his improvement to getting smoked by Kobe every day in practice. It's not a zero sum game.

I guess you can look at it as every player responds different.. Knox doesn't play with a high amount of energy consistently and his IQ is low as hell...plus whatever it is we are doing with him right now, it's pretty safe to say, IT AIN'T WORKING, time to try something different

Frank can't shoot, and it's pretty embarrassing to be in the league for 3 yrs getting consistent minutes and haven't scored more than 18 points ( and he's only done that twice) in any of the close to 200 games he's played in...

All mitch can do is dunk on the offense end, in this DAY and AGE where centers are shooting like guards on a normal bases, he's scared to death to shoot a jumper regardless to how open he is(just 5 jumpers in 116 games played)

If these are not grounds for G league stints, it's no wonder we are far behind the rest of the NBA in the development dept..


Mitch is a contributing member or the team. Bam Adebayo isn't shooting threes. Maybe the heat should send him down to the G-League? Players have developed for decades without a G-League. The problems here are deeper than Knox or Frank not going to the G-League.

So why are they regressing?

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BigDaddyG
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2/12/2020  6:19 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
technomaster wrote:As much as it might hurt from a pride standpoint (I'm NBA talent, damn it!), these guys need real game action to reinforce what they work on in practice.

There's nothing like reading and reacting against live competition.

Also note that in the G-league, the most dedicated players there are scraping and clawing for their livelihood. The competition is real and they want to win too!


It depends. I think getting smoked by Mook in practice everyday is way more valuable than getting 30 on some fringe dude from D2. I realize the competition is real, but the talent, for the most part, is not. There is no real answer, I guess. Depends on the situation and player.

Playing against guys 10x better than you is not a always a good way to get better, or everybody would skip college and the G league would be a waste of time.

I bet you any amount of money that if iggy is here next season, he will be better than knox

Yes, depends on the player and situation. Trevor Ariza credited his improvement to getting smoked by Kobe every day in practice. It's not a zero sum game.

I guess you can look at it as every player responds different.. Knox doesn't play with a high amount of energy consistently and his IQ is low as hell...plus whatever it is we are doing with him right now, it's pretty safe to say, IT AIN'T WORKING, time to try something different

Frank can't shoot, and it's pretty embarrassing to be in the league for 3 yrs getting consistent minutes and haven't scored more than 18 points ( and he's only done that twice) in any of the close to 200 games he's played in...

All mitch can do is dunk on the offense end, in this DAY and AGE where centers are shooting like guards on a normal bases, he's scared to death to shoot a jumper regardless to how open he is(just 5 jumpers in 116 games played)

If these are not grounds for G league stints, it's no wonder we are far behind the rest of the NBA in the development dept..


Mitch is a contributing member or the team. Bam Adebayo isn't shooting threes. Maybe the heat should send him down to the G-League? Players have developed for decades without a G-League. The problems here are deeper than Knox or Frank not going to the G-League.

So why are they regressing?

A number of reasons, but I'm sure having a new coach every season isn't helping.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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2/13/2020  9:02 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
technomaster wrote:As much as it might hurt from a pride standpoint (I'm NBA talent, damn it!), these guys need real game action to reinforce what they work on in practice.

There's nothing like reading and reacting against live competition.

Also note that in the G-league, the most dedicated players there are scraping and clawing for their livelihood. The competition is real and they want to win too!


It depends. I think getting smoked by Mook in practice everyday is way more valuable than getting 30 on some fringe dude from D2. I realize the competition is real, but the talent, for the most part, is not. There is no real answer, I guess. Depends on the situation and player.

Playing against guys 10x better than you is not a always a good way to get better, or everybody would skip college and the G league would be a waste of time.

I bet you any amount of money that if iggy is here next season, he will be better than knox

Yes, depends on the player and situation. Trevor Ariza credited his improvement to getting smoked by Kobe every day in practice. It's not a zero sum game.

I guess you can look at it as every player responds different.. Knox doesn't play with a high amount of energy consistently and his IQ is low as hell...plus whatever it is we are doing with him right now, it's pretty safe to say, IT AIN'T WORKING, time to try something different

Frank can't shoot, and it's pretty embarrassing to be in the league for 3 yrs getting consistent minutes and haven't scored more than 18 points ( and he's only done that twice) in any of the close to 200 games he's played in...

All mitch can do is dunk on the offense end, in this DAY and AGE where centers are shooting like guards on a normal bases, he's scared to death to shoot a jumper regardless to how open he is(just 5 jumpers in 116 games played)

If these are not grounds for G league stints, it's no wonder we are far behind the rest of the NBA in the development dept..


Mitch is a contributing member or the team. Bam Adebayo isn't shooting threes. Maybe the heat should send him down to the G-League? Players have developed for decades without a G-League. The problems here are deeper than Knox or Frank not going to the G-League.

So why are they regressing?

I think only Knox has really regressed, and I agree, he should go down. Playing with the big team is not helping him now.

He needs to go down a notch, slower level of play so he can get his head straight.

And for all I know, maybe Knox never makes it back.

Same for DSjr and Frank. I'd certainly send them down, give them some time to really reflect on what they want to do with their lives.

BigDaddyG
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2/27/2020  10:59 PM
I think we're sleeping on this kid.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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