martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If we move Randle, Bertans should be the target. 27 year old knockdown stretch 4. It should be all about adding shooters around Barrett. I know he's a rookie and coming off injury, but the way he's being utilized is embarrassing. Trade Randle into Charlotte's cap space and commit adding the types of players who compliment Barrett and Robinson.

If we add a PG in the draft, we should keep Payton as his backup and offer a big contract to Bertans and with the SG position either start Bullock, or sign Harris or Forbes.

Haven't seen much of him play. How is his defense? Rebounding? Is a sure-fire starter?

No way Knicks are bringing back Portis, so Knicks will have a slot.

What type of contract you offering?

His defense...he tries. Wizards fans think he'll get Randle money--or better and the Wizards seem content with that. We'd need a huge overpay to get Bertans, which I might consider if it meant getting rid of Randle at the end of the day.
https://nesn.com/2020/02/nba-rumors-why-celtics-wizards-couldnt-agree-to-davis-bertans-trade/

Reasons why the Celtics failed to acquire the Washington Wizards forward emerged in reports Sports Illustrated’s Chris Mannix and The Boston Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach shared immediately after Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET NBA trade deadline had passed. The Celtics reportedly had targeted Bertans in recent weeks, but Washington’s determination to re-sign him in free agency was insurmountable, according to Mannix.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If we move Randle, Bertans should be the target. 27 year old knockdown stretch 4. It should be all about adding shooters around Barrett. I know he's a rookie and coming off injury, but the way he's being utilized is embarrassing. Trade Randle into Charlotte's cap space and commit adding the types of players who compliment Barrett and Robinson.

If we add a PG in the draft, we should keep Payton as his backup and offer a big contract to Bertans and with the SG position either start Bullock, or sign Harris or Forbes.

Haven't seen much of him play. How is his defense? Rebounding? Is a sure-fire starter?

No way Knicks are bringing back Portis, so Knicks will have a slot.

What type of contract you offering?

His defense...he tries. Wizards fans think he'll get Randle money--or better and the Wizards seem content with that. We'd need a huge overpay to get Bertans, which I might consider if it meant getting rid of Randle at the end of the day.
https://nesn.com/2020/02/nba-rumors-why-celtics-wizards-couldnt-agree-to-davis-bertans-trade/

Reasons why the Celtics failed to acquire the Washington Wizards forward emerged in reports Sports Illustrated’s Chris Mannix and The Boston Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach shared immediately after Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET NBA trade deadline had passed. The Celtics reportedly had targeted Bertans in recent weeks, but Washington’s determination to re-sign him in free agency was insurmountable, according to Mannix.

Bertans is unrestricted though- Might prefer to live in NY than Washington if we had a similar offer. For me, I want him AND Joe Harris. This free agency pool sucks in terms of great players, but it has some good role players

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If we move Randle, Bertans should be the target. 27 year old knockdown stretch 4. It should be all about adding shooters around Barrett. I know he's a rookie and coming off injury, but the way he's being utilized is embarrassing. Trade Randle into Charlotte's cap space and commit adding the types of players who compliment Barrett and Robinson.

If we add a PG in the draft, we should keep Payton as his backup and offer a big contract to Bertans and with the SG position either start Bullock, or sign Harris or Forbes.

Haven't seen much of him play. How is his defense? Rebounding? Is a sure-fire starter?

No way Knicks are bringing back Portis, so Knicks will have a slot.

What type of contract you offering?

Not a bad defender, and sort of a late bloomer. Average rebounder. He can really shoot it though, and shooters are at a premium. I expect 20+ a year.

For a guy who comes off the bench on a bad team?

I get the shooting and all but is he even a starter on a playoff team?

I would make a serious offer for Ingram as I think NO would be open to a S&T using RJ as the main piece (remember RJ and Zion are besties)

After that stay pat. Bring back Bullock and Ellington on their options. Let Portis walk. Taj and his inability to hit wide open mid range and short jumpers in the flow of the offense has killed it for me. Bullock and Ellington are good role players. Bullock I like a ton and is a real keeper IMO

knicks1248 wrote:I think we make a block buster trade before the draft. I don't know who that's going to be for, but with a lack lust FA and Draft class, it wouldn't surprise me

I thought you said the FO is not about taking risks and being bold? We don't even have a team president and we have an interim GM and yet you think we make blockbuster trade?
You talking about like trading picks and yoot for a big contract?
Like for someone who is leaving in '21?
Go ahead and take a stab at it? C'mon, stick your neck out and offer an opinion on something you'd like!

fishmike wrote:I wouldnt sign anyone if it was me. They are all role players after AD/Ingram.

I would make a serious offer for Ingram as I think NO would be open to a S&T using RJ as the main piece (remember RJ and Zion are besties)

After that stay pat. Bring back Bullock and Ellington on their options. Let Portis walk. Taj and his inability to hit wide open mid range and short jumpers in the flow of the offense has killed it for me. Bullock and Ellington are good role players. Bullock I like a ton and is a real keeper IMO

Why not just be patient and develop RJ. He can do what Ingram is doing if developed properly.

smackeddog wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If we move Randle, Bertans should be the target. 27 year old knockdown stretch 4. It should be all about adding shooters around Barrett. I know he's a rookie and coming off injury, but the way he's being utilized is embarrassing. Trade Randle into Charlotte's cap space and commit adding the types of players who compliment Barrett and Robinson.

If we add a PG in the draft, we should keep Payton as his backup and offer a big contract to Bertans and with the SG position either start Bullock, or sign Harris or Forbes.

Haven't seen much of him play. How is his defense? Rebounding? Is a sure-fire starter?

No way Knicks are bringing back Portis, so Knicks will have a slot.

What type of contract you offering?

His defense...he tries. Wizards fans think he'll get Randle money--or better and the Wizards seem content with that. We'd need a huge overpay to get Bertans, which I might consider if it meant getting rid of Randle at the end of the day.
https://nesn.com/2020/02/nba-rumors-why-celtics-wizards-couldnt-agree-to-davis-bertans-trade/

Reasons why the Celtics failed to acquire the Washington Wizards forward emerged in reports Sports Illustrated’s Chris Mannix and The Boston Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach shared immediately after Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET NBA trade deadline had passed. The Celtics reportedly had targeted Bertans in recent weeks, but Washington’s determination to re-sign him in free agency was insurmountable, according to Mannix.

Bertans is unrestricted though- Might prefer to live in NY than Washington if we had a similar offer. For me, I want him AND Joe Harris. This free agency pool sucks in terms of great players, but it has some good role players

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:I wouldnt sign anyone if it was me. They are all role players after AD/Ingram.

I would make a serious offer for Ingram as I think NO would be open to a S&T using RJ as the main piece (remember RJ and Zion are besties)

After that stay pat. Bring back Bullock and Ellington on their options. Let Portis walk. Taj and his inability to hit wide open mid range and short jumpers in the flow of the offense has killed it for me. Bullock and Ellington are good role players. Bullock I like a ton and is a real keeper IMO

Why not just be patient and develop RJ. He can do what Ingram is doing if developed properly.

RJ has not demonstrating any elite shooting at any level. Ingram is taking 6 3s a game and hitting at 40%. Its not just a case of patience. Ingram is a ready made star.

I've got lead executives talking to me as we go through this, hours and hours and hours that I spend on the phone in and around the deadline, even after the deadline," said Brian Windhorst on his podcast. "Some of the worst for me is the three days of debriefing calls that these guys... I'm very appreciative, I mean I do it. I was on the phone until almost midnight Pacific time after the deadline talking to people.

"But anyways, one of the conversations people are starting to have in the league is 'will they move Embiid? What's the price? Where would he go?'

"I'm not going to get into that, but my point is people are talking about that. I don't think they would do that without making an adjustment to the head coach. It's such a radical thing, but the fact that we're in mid-February and the people who work in the league, who have to prepare in advance, are mulling over Joel Embiid potentially coming to market, whether that's true or not... I mean, Josh Harris can come on this podcast and deny it if he wants, but the fact people are talking about it, is not good. It's a symptom of where they are."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257178/Rival-Teams-Starting-To-Prepare-For-Possibility-Of-76ers-Trading-Joel-Embiid

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I live in fear of us trading the farm for Embiid (a rose client):

I've got lead executives talking to me as we go through this, hours and hours and hours that I spend on the phone in and around the deadline, even after the deadline," said Brian Windhorst on his podcast. "Some of the worst for me is the three days of debriefing calls that these guys... I'm very appreciative, I mean I do it. I was on the phone until almost midnight Pacific time after the deadline talking to people.

"But anyways, one of the conversations people are starting to have in the league is 'will they move Embiid? What's the price? Where would he go?'

"I'm not going to get into that, but my point is people are talking about that. I don't think they would do that without making an adjustment to the head coach. It's such a radical thing, but the fact that we're in mid-February and the people who work in the league, who have to prepare in advance, are mulling over Joel Embiid potentially coming to market, whether that's true or not... I mean, Josh Harris can come on this podcast and deny it if he wants, but the fact people are talking about it, is not good. It's a symptom of where they are."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257178/Rival-Teams-Starting-To-Prepare-For-Possibility-Of-76ers-Trading-Joel-Embiid

I've seen these rumors elsewhere. Some how the idea is out there Simmons would be easier to build around. I like both players, but that ideas is ridiculous unless there are some other underlying concerns regarding Joel's health. Anyway, what would you consider giving up the farm? A Lakers AD package? I ask because I'm not sure what value Embiid has on the trade market. He's talented, but is he a top 10 player right now. He's young, but his health is questionable from season to season. I've also seen some people question his work ethic.

I think Embiid’s injury risk and lack of maturity are probably the concerns. I do actually think them holding on to Simmons would be the wiser decision