Jmpasq wrote:fwk00 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:foosballnick wrote:Jmpasq wrote:TheGame wrote:If the Knicks trade RJ, I would be done. Plus, houston is not trading Russell this year. They got him to go for a championship. People are just making up trade rumors now.
Can I ask why? I would do this trade in a second, Houston wouldn't. Why is Barrett untochable because we drafted him 3rd? Can we examine him as a player? All of his negatives on draft day have become even more glaring? The guy can not shoot at all. True shooting at .454 that is kick to the sack bad. He does give 100% effort and thats a plus but effort is not what we need from the 3rd pick, we need a star player. Im convinced already he is not that. What do we reallly expect form Barrett. His ceiling is an above average starter. If we can sell him to another team based on his "potiental" for a real star or low tier All-Star we should do it. Once next year starts and he still sucks he becomes worthless just like Frank, Knox, and Dennis Smith Jr.
Smart. A 30 year old with a 40 million dolar contract that escalates to $47 million in 3 years.
Yeah not ideal but whats the alternative. Our front office can't draft or develop. We take Frank instead of Mitchell, we take Knox instead of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, we don't trade Porzingis when the tme was right, instead of signing a useful guard that can shoot we sign 4 frontcourt players. I'm sorry but there is no way this organzation will draft the right players and develop them correctly. The only chance we have is to fall ass backwards into a superstar. So yeah if we could get Westbrook a guy who averaged a triple double for 3 straight seasons before this one I would do it.Its not a great plan but the alterantive is winning 25 games a year and drafting the wrong players over and over again.
Let's unpack this a bit.
Our front office actually drafts pretty well. Your criticism appears to be that it doesn't have the psychic power to draft only those players who a year or two into the future will be more productive than the players they do draft. Using that same logic you should ask yourself why you don't bet on only the teams that will always win, and so on. What's so hard about predicting the future of young basketball players whose IQ is largely below average?
Phil wanted to trade Darko when his value had peaked but ran into a buzz-saw of resistance from our fanbase of armchair Nostradamus-es. You can't blame Perry for that one.
And we actually did sign a useful [not one but three] guard[s] in Payton, Ellington, and Bullock. The jury is still out on this because Fizdale so F'd up their profiles in the first twenty games.
Of the four PFs, all are seeing meaningful minutes and rising fortunes.
Miller seems to be the coach the doctor ordered for player development.
And as a rebuilding team, there's virtue in recalibrating the roster when opportunity knocks. Acquiring superstar caliber players when they're made available is hardly falling ass backwards into winning ways. its a calculated cost benefit risk the FO has to weigh.
The rebuild is actually doing well [despite a W-L record to the contrary]. Its that time of season to ratchet up the quality of the roster yet again.
Not me I wanted to trade Porzingis at peak value because the timeline was all wrong. We had traded away all our draft picks, and once we signed Noah and Lee cap room disappeared and it destroyed building a team before we had to pay him.
You think the rebuild is doing well? Besides Mitch I don't see an impact player among our younger players. He has by far the highest ceiling and he can't stay on the court. I don't see anyone worth getting excited about.
Color me confused. "His timeline was all wrong"?
Phil executed a dual development track for the Knicks. One track belonged to Melo and the other to establishing a next generation of Knicks.
Phil was both accumulating picks and protecting all future picks in that second track. In selecting Darko, Phil struck gold in a young player who straddled the win now track as well as the future track.
In signing Rose and Noah and Lee, Phil used the cap space to surround Melo with what he believed were proven, playoff bound warriors. The signings were meant to win now with the team that was built. Phil had no idea Rose and Noah would devolve into irreconcilable head cases.
Even given that, Phil wasn't entertaining trading Porzingis because of a failed season, he saw that Porzingis would never be much more than an insufferable and physically fragile Diva worth more in trade than on the court.
Since then, yes, the rebuild ids doing well. MR, Frankie, Dotson, and Iggy are all high quality, long term assets.
Payton, Knox, Trier are all fine candidates to stick in the NBA.
DSJ is trade fodder but so what?
And draft picks will be arriving 2 at a time for years to come.
What we need is some pruning of the sheer number of redundant players into acquiring a star or two.
