SupremeCommander wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

NYStateOfMind wrote:Thoughts on trading for Markieff Morris &/or Isaiah Thomas. What would it take?

I think adding them both would make this a solid team overall. DSJ seems done with this team and his so-called new shot looks like trash. Don't feel great about Gibson nor Portis long term, so either could go. Not big on Knox so far.

Think I read on Knicks Fan TV twitter that the Clippers are interested in Morris and would offer this years 1st rounder, plus the expirings of Moe Harkless (Whiteside i think you might be able to trade for second rounder or something) and Patterson. I'd be fine with that

They have first to give?

Apparently they can trade this years only.

The pick is going to be between 25-30. Harkless is averaging 5.9pts per game to Morris 18.7. But of course they will want Morris due to his elite catch and shooting ability, as well as willingness to play defense and toughness. They will need to give up Shamet in the deal.

But do we really want to trade Morris? If Knox was breaking out. Then moving Morris would make more sense as you would want to give Knox those mins and would want to get something in return for Morris before he left as a FA. But we can't depend on Knox, and we can't depend on any upcoming FAs.

I'd trade Morris. He is probably our best player but we are a 0.222 team. I have no interest in locking him to a longterm big money contract. I would rather see Knox in an expanded role and pray he figures his **** out. I would look to trade Morris, Elfrid Payton, Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Reggie Bullock, Alonzo Trier, and Damyean Dotson. i would take a second in 2039 if I had to for some of these guys. Man, I wish we had saved some of that cap space to take salary dumps for first round picks

Like anyone else on the team it depends on the return.

But philosophy wise. When we were bare with no young talent or assets etc. Collecting as much assets as possible made a ton of sense even if it sacrificed team building. But we have a good amount of young talent. Granted some will probably not stick and be apart of long term plans. But I think we are at the stage where we should start looking into actually building a team over collecting assets.

I wouldn't mind locking Morris in for a 3 yr deal afterwards if we could convince him of a 2 yr deal even better. Maybe possible if we thrown in a little extra cash. Should also look into a starting calibre center to upgrade from Gibson while keeping Mitch as a high quality backup as he gets more seasoning. PG will depend on the draft if we net Anthony will probably look to keep Payton as the vet. If Edwards who is more of a SG is landed might look at grabbing Dragic or Teague to go with Payton.

Combination of another top 5 lotto pick this upcoming draft, and some solid FAs like the ones mentioned above. While keeping pieces that have worked out so far like Payton and Morris might be the way to go forward.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Let's also remember that you have a FO that's hanging on by a thread,the goal of that FO is to show improvement all around, not have fire sales

Nobody said anything about a fire sale. However if teams are willing to offer a very good return for Morris you have to consider it given the fact that he is a UFA after this year

That goes without saying, but again your talking about 15 mill worth of contracts plus draft picks..what contender is that deep and desperate?

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Let's also remember that you have a FO that's hanging on by a thread,the goal of that FO is to show improvement all around, not have fire sales

Nobody said anything about a fire sale. However if teams are willing to offer a very good return for Morris you have to consider it given the fact that he is a UFA after this year

That goes without saying, but again your talking about 15 mill worth of contracts plus draft picks..what contender is that deep and desperate?

All of them, especially if it pushes them over the top, and in the case of the Western conference, if it also keeps Morris away from the other teams.

It's nice that LAL and LAC have SF/PF to guard.

whoa - I hadn't even considered an LA arms race. yes please.

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Let's also remember that you have a FO that's hanging on by a thread,the goal of that FO is to show improvement all around, not have fire sales

Nobody said anything about a fire sale. However if teams are willing to offer a very good return for Morris you have to consider it given the fact that he is a UFA after this year

That goes without saying, but again your talking about 15 mill worth of contracts plus draft picks..what contender is that deep and desperate?

All of them, especially if it pushes them over the top, and in the case of the Western conference, if it also keeps Morris away from the other teams.

It's nice that LAL and LAC have SF/PF to guard.

This. It sounds like the Clips have best chance of trading for him. Hard to believe they still have this year's first after the George trade.

I'm not surprised. Smart GM'ing

Porter is a risk, but so is losing Morris for nothing. Monte is behind Murray and has show good stats at all previous levels. Their 1st pick will not be that great.

NYStateOfMind wrote:Not sure they would do it, but if we do move Morris then it should be for future assets. They're looking to sacrifice depth for more playoff punch. Can a trade for Porter Jr and/or Malik Morris and/or 1st Rd pick work? Plus whatever else to make money work. Thoughts?

Porter is a risk, but so is losing Morris for nothing. Malik is behind Murray and has show good stats at all previous levels. Their 1st pick will not be that great.

id be ecstatic with porter but don't see them trading him for just Marcus who will be a FA. We might need to throw in a dallas pick or 2d rounder