CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:A coach better not be hired in order to lure anybody. He needs to be hired under the same merits guys like Atkinson or Buldenhozer were hired. Team builders

Yup, I am done with the team gambling like this. We need a coach who can coach, build and develop.

Who do you think that is? And how many years do you give him to develop and build? Cuz many were saying Fiz was that a year ago.

I am hoping they give Miller a real chance. I can't watch west coast games during the week so I only have seen his first game. I don't want Kidd and I really don't want anyone hired because there is a chance a star would go play for him.

This!!!!

MIller is. 1-2. Some of you already think MIller should be fired? Already? Because they they blew a lead? Getting the lead does not matter? I swore I would not watch. TUrned it on at half. When frank did his back court violation thing My wife asked me WTF as that? I said thats a motion they have been doing all year and seemingly to me they have been close to doing that violation many times and it was bound to happen! Frank was out of sorts. Non of the back court looked good except Payton who really was was not great, just by contrast not awful.

You know things are bad when even winning a game sucks1

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:ugly ass 3rd quarter last night. Frank looks Ike he is playing for his 3 coach and looks out of sort. He has played very well with Gibson this season and the were awful last night. IF the PG is an extension of the coach and frank is a “systems type player” its no surprise he is not playing freely. Good thing Payton is back!!!!

MIller is. 1-2. Some of you already think MIller should be fired? Already? Because they they blew a lead? Getting the lead does not matter? I swore I would not watch. TUrned it on at half. When frank did his back court violation thing My wife asked me WTF as that? I said thats a motion they have been doing all year and seemingly to me they have been close to doing that violation many times and it was bound to happen! Frank was out of sorts. Non of the back court looked good except Payton who really was was not great, just by contrast not awful.

You know things are bad when even winning a game sucks1

Frank still has time to grow, but if you struggle with 3 different coaches maybe its "You"?

Im protective of the Rookies and partial to them. Same for Knox. He is a mess this year.

Nalod wrote:https://www.complex.com/sports/2019/12/new-york-knicks-short-list-head-coach-candidates?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social

SVG blasted the knicks the other day. Jeff has not coached in years. Him and mark Jax are the top broadcasting duo. Thibs, JVG, Hammon, and Jax.......this article for real or just the same regurgitated knick names put there for click bait?
Nothing against Hammon and outside of the novelty of her being the first women if hired to be an NBA head coach, but is she qualified outside of that?
We all like Thibs. This guy is intense and a hard working guy. Great idea. How’d that go in his last two jobs? Not well.

You're kidding right? What qualifications outside of playing professionally, and working as an asst. under the mentorship of maybe the best NBA coach ever?

JVG/Jackson/Thibodeau get hired, then so much for recruiting a top exec. If Miller doesnt work out, a solid candidate for team president will want to make that call. Will show that Dolan has no intention of letting Ujiri, or any other top exec chart the course. They will know the deal, agents will tell players that nothing has changed. F this sentimental crap. Would rather see Hammond get a shot, she's earned it, not a retread.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:https://www.complex.com/sports/2019/12/new-york-knicks-short-list-head-coach-candidates?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social

SVG blasted the knicks the other day. Jeff has not coached in years. Him and mark Jax are the top broadcasting duo. Thibs, JVG, Hammon, and Jax.......this article for real or just the same regurgitated knick names put there for click bait?
Nothing against Hammon and outside of the novelty of her being the first women if hired to be an NBA head coach, but is she qualified outside of that?
We all like Thibs. This guy is intense and a hard working guy. Great idea. How’d that go in his last two jobs? Not well.

You're kidding right? What qualifications outside of playing professionally, and working as an asst. under the mentorship of maybe the best NBA coach ever?

JVG/Jackson/Thibodeau get hired, then so much for recruiting a top exec. If Miller doesnt work out, a solid candidate for team president will want to make that call. Will show that Dolan has no intention of letting Ujiri, or any other top exec chart the course. They will know the deal, agents will tell players that nothing has changed. F this sentimental crap. Would rather see Hammond get a shot, she's earned it, not a retread.

She has not ever been a head coach anywhere previously. If she was not a women would she have the same consideration?
I don't want retread either and not a chance I want any of those guys just because they have NY connections. This is about coaching X's-O's and leaderhip manage a staff, media crush, and 15 young men who have massive ego's and issues that come with being a pro athlete. Sorry, I am a Becky Hammon fan and think its great Pop is progressive enough to nurture a career but this is a whole other thing. Personally I think it would be a great thing and absolutely would root for her as a fan. The conversation I am having is on a logical level. She has never been a head coach before and being around Pop a few years is not enough. Im being objective. Would I give her a shot? Sure. It would be fun. Why not? Can't hurt? Make History! Can't be worse than this! Right? Right? Yeah, seemingly we find ways.

As for how this goes down my guess is Vandeweghe, Allan Houston or Sam Presti is going to get the Mills gig. Read that OKC ownership would release Presti if he wanted out as a favor. They like him and he has done a very good job. I can't tell you why he'd do it but the lure of the guy that does this right in NYC with the knicks and get paid 10million while trying is not a bad job. Because he succeeded previously his reputation would never be tarnished if he bombed out here. In fact it might help!!! LOL

Dolan goes H20 if the loyalty/trust thing is still important, Starphuching with substance is Presti, and Vandeweghe would be a solid choice. Not that he has the championship resume but he was an allstar, a coach, GM and worked in the League office. He brings cred and substance. As fans we only have their teams record to go on. There is so much more that goes into it but fans just want results. That's why we want Ujiri, or Myers, or Presti or Buford. We want hope. We want them to bring their history. We are desperate. We are sad.

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:https://www.complex.com/sports/2019/12/new-york-knicks-short-list-head-coach-candidates?utm_campaign=complexmag&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social

SVG blasted the knicks the other day. Jeff has not coached in years. Him and mark Jax are the top broadcasting duo. Thibs, JVG, Hammon, and Jax.......this article for real or just the same regurgitated knick names put there for click bait?
Nothing against Hammon and outside of the novelty of her being the first women if hired to be an NBA head coach, but is she qualified outside of that?
We all like Thibs. This guy is intense and a hard working guy. Great idea. How’d that go in his last two jobs? Not well.

You're kidding right? What qualifications outside of playing professionally, and working as an asst. under the mentorship of maybe the best NBA coach ever?

JVG/Jackson/Thibodeau get hired, then so much for recruiting a top exec. If Miller doesnt work out, a solid candidate for team president will want to make that call. Will show that Dolan has no intention of letting Ujiri, or any other top exec chart the course. They will know the deal, agents will tell players that nothing has changed. F this sentimental crap. Would rather see Hammond get a shot, she's earned it, not a retread.

She has not ever been a head coach anywhere previously. If she was not a women would she have the same consideration?
I don't want retread either and not a chance I want any of those guys just because they have NY connections. This is about coaching X's-O's and leaderhip manage a staff, media crush, and 15 young men who have massive ego's and issues that come with being a pro athlete. Sorry, I am a Becky Hammon fan and think its great Pop is progressive enough to nurture a career but this is a whole other thing. Personally I think it would be a great thing and absolutely would root for her as a fan. The conversation I am having is on a logical level. She has never been a head coach before and being around Pop a few years is not enough. Im being objective. Would I give her a shot? Sure. It would be fun. Why not? Can't hurt? Make History! Can't be worse than this! Right? Right? Yeah, seemingly we find ways.

As for how this goes down my guess is Vandeweghe, Allan Houston or Sam Presti is going to get the Mills gig. Read that OKC ownership would release Presti if he wanted out as a favor. They like him and he has done a very good job. I can't tell you why he'd do it but the lure of the guy that does this right in NYC with the knicks and get paid 10million while trying is not a bad job. Because he succeeded previously his reputation would never be tarnished if he bombed out here. In fact it might help!!! LOL

Dolan goes H20 if the loyalty/trust thing is still important, Starphuching with substance is Presti, and Vandeweghe would be a solid choice. Not that he has the championship resume but he was an allstar, a coach, GM and worked in the League office. He brings cred and substance. As fans we only have their teams record to go on. There is so much more that goes into it but fans just want results. That's why we want Ujiri, or Myers, or Presti or Buford. We want hope. We want them to bring their history. We are desperate. We are sad.

Dont recall you being concerned when Phil hired Derek Fisher, while still a player, and zero coaching experience in any capacity. If Budenholzer had not taken the ATL job first, would have been happy to see the Knicks hire him, without having been a pro head coach first. Would be happy to see the Knicks hire someone from the Popovich coaching tree, who happens to be a woman.

Hiring someone mainly for their NY connection is for the fans, not the team. Players dont give an F.

CrushAlot wrote:I prefer Miller to anyone mentioned. Small sample size but has the job for the right reasons, is no drama and all about b-ball. I hope he gets a fair shot.

I do too..

Its funny how ppl look at the knicks and say we run through so many coaches, but they never take into consideration that the recent coaches that were fired (Fiz, JH, Fisher) had no real head coaching experience to begin with.

How can you ever be patient with something that's going in the wrong direction.

IMO the Coach should also be THE GM

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