TPercy wrote:Imagine adding Edwards(assuming he makes immediate Mitchell/Doncic/Young impact) and Fred in one off season. Resign Morris, move Randle to center and you get:

Van Fleet
Edwards
RJ
Morris
Randle(I think we'll be solid enough defensively to take a hit on rim protection)

Frank
Trier/Bullock
Knox
Gibson
Robinson

Possible playoff contender if we get a new coach.

I think the Edwards/VanVleet combo is best case scenario. But I would start Mitch and bring Randle off the bench. Only start Randle if Morris isn’t brought back. Randle would still play plenty of minutes at center because I’m not bringing back Portis.

BigDaddyG wrote:

TheGame wrote:We need a PG that will lead the team. I think Frank has that potential but he is still at least two years away from that level of skill and confidence. Vanfleet would be a good get but I think we would almost have to max him to outbid Toronto and even then they might match. Realistically, we would be better off doing a trade for Lowry and starting Lowry until Frank or DSJ are ready to take over as both appear to be 1 or 2 years away from being solid starting pgs.

Lowry's age and contract tho... Someone like George Hill has a more manageable contract at $9 million and I think only about one million is guaranteed after next year.

Hill would be good. We should have sign Rubio this summer. In any case, we need to sign or draft someone who is a clear starter. Our lack of competent pg play is killing everything and is forcing Randle to try and do too much.

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:Fred is a fine player. Kyle lowrey was too, and he got better as his team around him did. I think Fred might be similar. That might be true with 75% of the league. He would be our best guard if we moved him today. Im not here to promote or diss our current PG situation but I do want to see how this season plays out, what draft opportunities occur and really give Dennis the benefit of the doubt. Its a big doubt. When your 4-15 little looks good or projects as such.
Its the first week in December, we talking July.

Would I trade for him? Ujiri would kill us. Frank and a future first? Then watch Frank emerge on a better team? Masai, Morey or Presti calls, you hang up the phone!!!!

It wouldn’t be a trade. We don’t have enough without moving Barrett. It would only be signing him into cap space.

If you value him, you trade for him. His trade value is not that high if he is bolting Raptors.
It was more rhetorical question.

Why would your trade for someone who is a free agent ? I’d rather overpay with money than send any value to the other team.

Hypothetically speaking, bird rights matter, Fred not resigning with Raptors, Raptors not interested in resigning him and something is better than nothing. If Knicks would know what his price would be before a trade and if he is interested in staying. In fact, Knicks might be his preferred destination.

Hypothetically speaking that his. Maybe Toronto looks to rebuild on strength. I don't know where they are going with Lowrey and Gasol on the north side of 30. Im impressed with their season thus far.

Bird rights matter if you’re over the cap or if you're offering a max deal, that’s it. My thoughts are this, after paying 36 million for Bobby Portis and Randle 30 million for Fred VanVleet sounds great. You sign him and draft Lamelo Ball or Anthony, we win at least 15 more games next season. 48 minutes of competent PG play would make a huge difference.