It would be a smart trade only if we get rid of Anderson and Kurt Thomas. Patterson was once one of the guys that I wanted with the Knicks, but not anymore. Again, Anderson and Kurt have to be traded before even consider bringing in a player like Patterson around.

I dont think anyone will deny the need.. the problem is the roster. Unless there is a creative way to dump Shandon how do you do this?

I think (like an athletic big) this is just something we are going to have to scheme around. we arent going to be a good defensive team in terms of opposing FG%, we just dont have the personel. It doesnt mean we can play effective D. He have a lot of speed and should be able to force a lot of TOs. Also with the speed can come quicker help defense, better transition D and we should be very good on the glass.

These are some ok things to work towards and I suspect a decent coach like Lenny will see this and put something in place meant to pressure the opposition and force TOs.

Just because we dont have Big Ben or Artest doesnt mean we play D. Look at the Heat... everyone is handing them a top 3 spot in the East. We have nobody that can match with Shaq and Wade will be tough also, but what happens when we send two fast guys like TT and Crawford to trade Wade at half court EVERY possetion? Then you have Eddie Jone or Rasual Butler starting the offense and if that doesnt smell like a 20 TO game I dont know what does.

My point is we at least have options... speed creates that. Last couple of years we were small AND slow and had Spree. A lot has changed.

What knid of trade proposal is that. Were damn near the shortest team in the league, and you want to bring in a guy who brings the same type game but 5" shorter.

Posted by TMS:

JYD is an athletic, tough defender w/a great team first attitude

I agree.People talk about offensive catalysts,JYD is a defensive catalyst.

I agree.People talk about offensive catalysts,JYD is a defensive catalyst

Defensive catalysts...WOW!!

Thats definately a stretch, I would say he's a good defensive player

Posted by knicks1248:

I agree.People talk about offensive catalysts,JYD is a defensive catalyst

Defensive catalysts...WOW!!

Thats definately a stretch, I would say he's a good defensive player

Glad you are so excited.A defensive catalyst is someone who can come off the bench and put some energy into the defense.Thats what he is known for.

Id rather haev ruben--thats just my opinion. JYD is a guy who really is a much more of a pure 4 who can rebound the ball. he cant defend guys like kobe pierce lebron etc.. and ruben CAN. Actually the only guy on the team capable of keeping up with those players is andersen--and the reality ois they dont want him because he is a very incosistent offensive player. Ruben Patterson is a 2-3 who shoots over 50%, has the type of powerful athletiscm from the wing we dont have and can play the type of D on the 2-3 that no on else on this roster can. Make no mistake JYD is third in line at the 4--and while he can move over to the three a tad--we'd be better off with Patterson. Patterson has been a big time performer in big time playoff basketball games--JYD has been moved 3 times in less than a year. You would thinka team would keep JYD if he brought so much to the table like it is being purported but BAD teams like the Bulls and the Raptors didnt give it a second thought.

its not really fair to say JYD was traded.. more he was a part of trades. Tor even said they hated to lose him but had to include him because of salary issues to make the deal work.

JYD can guard 3's like LJ and Mason could... probably better. He's going to force smaller guys away from the hoop.

Briggs! no disrespece, but you have issues.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Id rather haev ruben--thats just my opinion. JYD is a guy who really is a much more of a pure 4 who can rebound the ball. he cant defend guys like kobe pierce lebron etc.. and ruben CAN. Actually the only guy on the team capable of keeping up with those players is andersen--and the reality ois they dont want him because he is a very incosistent offensive player. Ruben Patterson is a 2-3 who shoots over 50%, has the type of powerful athletiscm from the wing we dont have and can play the type of D on the 2-3 that no on else on this roster can. Make no mistake JYD is third in line at the 4--and while he can move over to the three a tad--we'd be better off with Patterson. Patterson has been a big time performer in big time playoff basketball games--JYD has been moved 3 times in less than a year. You would thinka team would keep JYD if he brought so much to the table like it is being purported but BAD teams like the Bulls and the Raptors didnt give it a second thought.

how white of you!

You hang onto defenders you don't trade for for another....If there was someway to get paterson and hang onto JYD, that would be awesome, but there isn't to bad houston isn't heathly and isn't making the third most in the league (Layden you ****head) we could have moved him in a deal with kurt, for paterson and shareef.