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knicks1248
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10/22/2019  11:59 AM
Juliano wrote:
fishmike wrote:

Progressing the way he has doesn't cut it, he'd better be improving way faster than he has.

IMO he look much better under the french coaching staff (over 3 months) than he has in 2 yrs under the knick coaching staff..

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10/22/2019  12:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Juliano wrote:
fishmike wrote:

Progressing the way he has doesn't cut it, he'd better be improving way faster than he has.

IMO he look much better under the french coaching staff (over 3 months) than he has in 2 yrs under the knick coaching staff..

So you suggest we give him his third coach in three years? He missed 43 games last year. Im gonna guess he played most of the ones he did play he was hurting in at least 10 of them. Shoulder would hinder his shooting.
You know you slighted FIBA as it was against inferior competition.
So which staff does his the French coach actually improve on? Fiz and his staff or Hornacek and his?
You still think This knick team can win 40+ games otherwise Fiz should be fired?

knicks1248
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10/22/2019  1:04 PM
Nalod wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Juliano wrote:
fishmike wrote:

Progressing the way he has doesn't cut it, he'd better be improving way faster than he has.

IMO he look much better under the french coaching staff (over 3 months) than he has in 2 yrs under the knick coaching staff..

So you suggest we give him his third coach in three years? He missed 43 games last year. Im gonna guess he played most of the ones he did play he was hurting in at least 10 of them. Shoulder would hinder his shooting.
You know you slighted FIBA as it was against inferior competition.
So which staff does his the French coach actually improve on? Fiz and his staff or Hornacek and his?
You still think This knick team can win 40+ games otherwise Fiz should be fired?


Who have the knicks develop that you are proud of.

In 2017, KP didn't spend a half of second with any of the knicks staff, and came into the season lights out, before fatigue took over in december, and scouts figured the game plan.

We are talented enough to win 40 games in the east, If the talent is used correctly, the rotations are done correctly, and the players totally buy in to their roles...That's All on the coaching staff.

If that doesn't happen, then it's on the F/O to either fire FIZ, or trade for players that fit what the coaching staff is trying to do..

But you know this F/O doesnt take any fckg accountability and will fire fiz as a scapegoat in a heartbeat, or blame it on the players..

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10/22/2019  1:06 PM
It's fair to wonder if Fizdale has any ****ing clue as to what's going on. His rotations always have been off and our execution and play calling always seems to be tremendously disorganized.

We forget the kid is only 20 years old and has had to deal with multiple coaches, gm and franchise turmoil. He looked good this summer and is one of those guys that just needs to be on the floor.

Look at the absurd contracts that are being handed out all over the league for fringe All-Stars and starters. I would love to lock him in and keep him on the floor. He's going to figure it out. He just needs a coach that's going to put him in a position to succeed.

knicks1248
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10/22/2019  1:25 PM
MS wrote:It's fair to wonder if Fizdale has any ****ing clue as to what's going on. His rotations always have been off and our execution and play calling always seems to be tremendously disorganized.

We forget the kid is only 20 years old and has had to deal with multiple coaches, gm and franchise turmoil. He looked good this summer and is one of those guys that just needs to be on the floor.

Look at the absurd contracts that are being handed out all over the league for fringe All-Stars and starters. I would love to lock him in and keep him on the floor. He's going to figure it out. He just needs a coach that's going to put him in a position to succeed.

If your a defensive team, do you go out and draft, Mike Beasly, allan houston, amare and melo, then pray that they learn how to play defense..

If fiz goal is to play fast, shoot 3's, and play scrappy defense, why are we giving fiz players that don't play like that..

You think MDA could turn frank into steve nash

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10/22/2019  1:42 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Juliano wrote:
fishmike wrote:

Progressing the way he has doesn't cut it, he'd better be improving way faster than he has.

IMO he look much better under the french coaching staff (over 3 months) than he has in 2 yrs under the knick coaching staff..

So you suggest we give him his third coach in three years? He missed 43 games last year. Im gonna guess he played most of the ones he did play he was hurting in at least 10 of them. Shoulder would hinder his shooting.
You know you slighted FIBA as it was against inferior competition.
So which staff does his the French coach actually improve on? Fiz and his staff or Hornacek and his?
You still think This knick team can win 40+ games otherwise Fiz should be fired?


Who have the knicks develop that you are proud of.

In 2017, KP didn't spend a half of second with any of the knicks staff, and came into the season lights out, before fatigue took over in december, and scouts figured the game plan.

We are talented enough to win 40 games in the east, If the talent is used correctly, the rotations are done correctly, and the players totally buy in to their roles...That's All on the coaching staff.

If that doesn't happen, then it's on the F/O to either fire FIZ, or trade for players that fit what the coaching staff is trying to do..

But you know this F/O doesnt take any fckg accountability and will fire fiz as a scapegoat in a heartbeat, or blame it on the players..

For the first time in decades we have a President who hired his GM, who hired his coach. After one season you want to dismantle that?
You want to blame Mills for all of Phils issues because he was the GM? Even after you have read PHil was in charge of all basketball decisions? That a team president rarely enters the roster construction role, and thus in the Phil era Mills largely was the business executive and not a traditional GM. You see when Phil left Mills assumed the president title again and then first thing he did was hire a GM for basketball. Does that ever resonate with you?
For most of us we put Mills on the clock when Phil was shown the door and he hired his GM (Perry).
What's accountable? 17 wins! Did we make changes to bring in more experienced players and keep our youthful core? Yep.
There are more than few preditions and Las Vega's odds that say we win 25-27 games. Your in a tizzy because the team did not get "stars" or a higher level of talent. We been thru the whole process all summer to why it did not happen. Blowing up the F/O with change does not make for "improvement".
How do you want accountability? Punishment? You need "Blame" to be satisfied to what happened with KP? Do you think the knicks were not reasonable from what you read about how it was handled? If so, can you be specific?

KNICK PICKED UP THE FRANKS OPTION (and DSJr's and Knox 2020-21 option)

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