knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:So instead of giving those limited available minutes at PG to Frank, you would rather the Knicks sign Lin. Come on guys.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/jeremy-lins-nba-status-keeps-getting-sadder/

Really sad article

A day after telling The Post last summer that he hadn’t heard anything from the Nets about being traded and that he didn’t anticipate a move, Lin got shipped to Atlanta. He played 51 games for the rebuilding Hawks, but started just one and clearly wasn’t at his best physically. He eventually was bought out and waived in January.

“After the season, I had to get ready for this Asia trip. And it was the last thing I wanted to do, because I knew for six weeks I would have to just put on a smile,” Lin said. “I would have to talk about a championship that I don’t feel like I really earned. I would have to talk about a [basketball] future I don’t know if I want to have. And honestly, it’s just embarrassing. It’s tough.”

“Nowadays I spend more time thinking about quitting,” Lin admitted. “I always tell myself if I have a son, I don’t want him to make the NBA. You don’t have to deal with fame, you don’t have to deal with living your life and having all your failures on display to the world.”

There's 60 million reasons why it's not as sad as you think. BTW, there's players just as good if not better that is still waiting by the phone....Faried, Justin Holiday, Stauskas, Jerebko, Crawford...

you definitely have a point, but dude was actually crying..

He's made more money than he can spend in 2 life times, so he should stop feeling so sorry for himself.

Ron baker got the bag and hauled ass..lol..did you even see him on any ones summer league team..

He went from the feel-good, flash in the pan from Harvard that made good at the Mecca, ending up as trade flotsam that had to be dumped with 1st round picks. I guess getting outplayed and replaced by Patrick Beverly didn't teach him any lessons in humility.

Sorry for himself and entitled. Not a really good look for Mr. Christian Bookstore. It is sad.

jrodmc wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:So instead of giving those limited available minutes at PG to Frank, you would rather the Knicks sign Lin. Come on guys.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/jeremy-lins-nba-status-keeps-getting-sadder/

Really sad article

A day after telling The Post last summer that he hadn’t heard anything from the Nets about being traded and that he didn’t anticipate a move, Lin got shipped to Atlanta. He played 51 games for the rebuilding Hawks, but started just one and clearly wasn’t at his best physically. He eventually was bought out and waived in January.

“After the season, I had to get ready for this Asia trip. And it was the last thing I wanted to do, because I knew for six weeks I would have to just put on a smile,” Lin said. “I would have to talk about a championship that I don’t feel like I really earned. I would have to talk about a [basketball] future I don’t know if I want to have. And honestly, it’s just embarrassing. It’s tough.”

“Nowadays I spend more time thinking about quitting,” Lin admitted. “I always tell myself if I have a son, I don’t want him to make the NBA. You don’t have to deal with fame, you don’t have to deal with living your life and having all your failures on display to the world.”

There's 60 million reasons why it's not as sad as you think. BTW, there's players just as good if not better that is still waiting by the phone....Faried, Justin Holiday, Stauskas, Jerebko, Crawford...

you definitely have a point, but dude was actually crying..

He's made more money than he can spend in 2 life times, so he should stop feeling so sorry for himself.

Ron baker got the bag and hauled ass..lol..did you even see him on any ones summer league team..

He went from the feel-good, flash in the pan from Harvard that made good at the Mecca, ending up as trade flotsam that had to be dumped with 1st round picks. I guess getting outplayed and replaced by Patrick Beverly didn't teach him any lessons in humility.

Sorry for himself and entitled. Not a really good look for Mr. Christian Bookstore. It is sad.

If Knicks will not lay down under Melo and sign Lin outright for affordable contract the story would be different.
But you cannot step back into the same river.
Lin is set for live financialy and can do some good for the society if he wish.
I hope for everyone to do as good as he made it off in life.

arkrud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:So instead of giving those limited available minutes at PG to Frank, you would rather the Knicks sign Lin. Come on guys.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/jeremy-lins-nba-status-keeps-getting-sadder/

Really sad article

A day after telling The Post last summer that he hadn’t heard anything from the Nets about being traded and that he didn’t anticipate a move, Lin got shipped to Atlanta. He played 51 games for the rebuilding Hawks, but started just one and clearly wasn’t at his best physically. He eventually was bought out and waived in January.

“After the season, I had to get ready for this Asia trip. And it was the last thing I wanted to do, because I knew for six weeks I would have to just put on a smile,” Lin said. “I would have to talk about a championship that I don’t feel like I really earned. I would have to talk about a [basketball] future I don’t know if I want to have. And honestly, it’s just embarrassing. It’s tough.”

“Nowadays I spend more time thinking about quitting,” Lin admitted. “I always tell myself if I have a son, I don’t want him to make the NBA. You don’t have to deal with fame, you don’t have to deal with living your life and having all your failures on display to the world.”

There's 60 million reasons why it's not as sad as you think. BTW, there's players just as good if not better that is still waiting by the phone....Faried, Justin Holiday, Stauskas, Jerebko, Crawford...

you definitely have a point, but dude was actually crying..

He's made more money than he can spend in 2 life times, so he should stop feeling so sorry for himself.

Ron baker got the bag and hauled ass..lol..did you even see him on any ones summer league team..

He went from the feel-good, flash in the pan from Harvard that made good at the Mecca, ending up as trade flotsam that had to be dumped with 1st round picks. I guess getting outplayed and replaced by Patrick Beverly didn't teach him any lessons in humility.

Sorry for himself and entitled. Not a really good look for Mr. Christian Bookstore. It is sad.

If Knicks will not lay down under Melo and sign Lin outright for affordable contract the story would be different.
But you cannot step back into the same river.
Lin is set for live financialy and can do some good for the society if he wish.
I hope for everyone to do as good as he made it off in life.

You mean instead of that ridiculous contract?

jrodmc wrote:
Seriously, at this moment, talent-wise, you honestly think Lin or Stat are better? Based on what? He led OKC in scoring several times on a team with a documented no-D stat filler and an honest to goodness superstar in PG.

The Knicks just signed a bunch of FA pivots/power forwards. So your answer is to ignore the only point guard out of the three ( it's not like PG is a set position for the Knicks right now) and push forward another PF to be on the roster?

By positional need/positional value alone, Lin would be more useful than Melo and STAT. If Lin was a power forward, he would be equally as unneeded on this roster, but that's not the case.

Sometimes the more objectively talented player is left behind for a player who can fill a limited role with operational certainty for that season at least.

You ignored basic positional need to fulfill your "Melo Agenda" The problem is your proposal makes it harder for the Knicks to win games. ( They don't need another PF in the glut of ones they have already) By extension you would rather the Knicks lose games to fill out your Melo agenda. You are actually pushing something that would cause the Knicks to lose more games than win. What kind of ****ing fan are you?

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:So instead of giving those limited available minutes at PG to Frank, you would rather the Knicks sign Lin. Come on guys.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/jeremy-lins-nba-status-keeps-getting-sadder/

Really sad article

A day after telling The Post last summer that he hadn’t heard anything from the Nets about being traded and that he didn’t anticipate a move, Lin got shipped to Atlanta. He played 51 games for the rebuilding Hawks, but started just one and clearly wasn’t at his best physically. He eventually was bought out and waived in January.

“After the season, I had to get ready for this Asia trip. And it was the last thing I wanted to do, because I knew for six weeks I would have to just put on a smile,” Lin said. “I would have to talk about a championship that I don’t feel like I really earned. I would have to talk about a [basketball] future I don’t know if I want to have. And honestly, it’s just embarrassing. It’s tough.”

“Nowadays I spend more time thinking about quitting,” Lin admitted. “I always tell myself if I have a son, I don’t want him to make the NBA. You don’t have to deal with fame, you don’t have to deal with living your life and having all your failures on display to the world.”

There's 60 million reasons why it's not as sad as you think. BTW, there's players just as good if not better that is still waiting by the phone....Faried, Justin Holiday, Stauskas, Jerebko, Crawford...

you definitely have a point, but dude was actually crying..

He's made more money than he can spend in 2 life times, so he should stop feeling so sorry for himself.

Ron baker got the bag and hauled ass..lol..did you even see him on any ones summer league team..

Lin always found a way to play the martyr. Even while things were going very well for him. Mr "80 percent" made it about mostly about money a long time ago. Thats fine, but spare me the lamentations of the NBA being a business. Never could stay healthy for long anyway.

As for Melo, F no. Anybody who believes that Melo will settle for a small role in the offense is kidding themselves. "Olympic Melo" might do that on a superteam, not this one.

TripleThreat wrote:

jrodmc wrote:
Seriously, at this moment, talent-wise, you honestly think Lin or Stat are better? Based on what? He led OKC in scoring several times on a team with a documented no-D stat filler and an honest to goodness superstar in PG.

The Knicks just signed a bunch of FA pivots/power forwards. So your answer is to ignore the only point guard out of the three ( it's not like PG is a set position for the Knicks right now) and push forward another PF to be on the roster?

By positional need/positional value alone, Lin would be more useful than Melo and STAT. If Lin was a power forward, he would be equally as unneeded on this roster, but that's not the case.

Sometimes the more objectively talented player is left behind for a player who can fill a limited role with operational certainty for that season at least.

You ignored basic positional need to fulfill your "Melo Agenda" The problem is your proposal makes it harder for the Knicks to win games. ( They don't need another PF in the glut of ones they have already) By extension you would rather the Knicks lose games to fill out your Melo agenda. You are actually pushing something that would cause the Knicks to lose more games than win. What kind of ****ing fan are you?

The point being made was the defensive deficiencies of Melo make him a worse "sentimental signing" versus Lin and Stat, in view of the fact that we've gone in on positionless basketball (by signing a bunch of PFs).

Since this team has gone in for positionless basketball, you've ignored the current trend (while citing it at the same time) of this FO, to further push your Melo hate agenda.

The thread's about the vet minimum, not filling a need for operational certainty with a player (Lin) who's MO is anything BUT operational certainty. And at last count, we had THREE point guards ready to start camp, possibly 4 if you count Trier. What ****ing team are you following? Gee, if only Ron Baker were still available, huh?

And as I mentioned, it's a waste of time with Melo anyway, because he's not accepting no bench role. Despite the fact that the Knicks and even OKC and Houston won less without him on the floor.

What the **** kind of reading comprehension problems do you have, anyway?

arkrud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

jrodmc wrote:
Seriously, at this moment, talent-wise, you honestly think Lin or Stat are better? Based on what? He led OKC in scoring several times on a team with a documented no-D stat filler and an honest to goodness superstar in PG.

The Knicks just signed a bunch of FA pivots/power forwards. So your answer is to ignore the only point guard out of the three ( it's not like PG is a set position for the Knicks right now) and push forward another PF to be on the roster?

By positional need/positional value alone, Lin would be more useful than Melo and STAT. If Lin was a power forward, he would be equally as unneeded on this roster, but that's not the case.

Sometimes the more objectively talented player is left behind for a player who can fill a limited role with operational certainty for that season at least.

You ignored basic positional need to fulfill your "Melo Agenda" The problem is your proposal makes it harder for the Knicks to win games. ( They don't need another PF in the glut of ones they have already) By extension you would rather the Knicks lose games to fill out your Melo agenda. You are actually pushing something that would cause the Knicks to lose more games than win. What kind of ****ing fan are you?

The point being made was the defensive deficiencies of Melo make him a worse "sentimental signing" versus Lin and Stat, in view of the fact that we've gone in on positionless basketball (by signing a bunch of PFs).

Since this team has gone in for positionless basketball, you've ignored the current trend (while citing it at the same time) of this FO, to further push your Melo hate agenda.

The thread's about the vet minimum, not filling a need for operational certainty with a player (Lin) who's MO is anything BUT operational certainty. And at last count, we had THREE point guards ready to start camp, possibly 4 if you count Trier. What ****ing team are you following? Gee, if only Ron Baker were still available, huh?

And as I mentioned, it's a waste of time with Melo anyway, because he's not accepting no bench role. Despite the fact that the Knicks and even OKC and Houston won less without him on the floor.

What the **** kind of reading comprehension problems do you have, anyway?

Knicks always were no good for Melo and still are.
And OKC and Huston were not good for him ether.
Melo was totally screwed for all his prime.
What a shame...

Not so sure about that

Ten-time All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony remains unemployed, but his time as a free agent may have been over by now if the New York Knicks made a big splash.

If New York managed to sign two major free agents - such as Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving - this summer, the club planned to consider a reunion with Anthony, league sources told The Athletic's Shams Charania.

The Knicks would've become a contender in that scenario, making signing the veteran more suitable than adding him to a youthful roster amid a rebuild, adds Charania.

Anthony played some of his best basketball in the Big Apple, making seven consecutive All-Star Game appearances and earning All-NBA second-team honors twice.

The Syracuse product averaged 24.7 points and seven boards per game across seven seasons for the Knicks.

Anthony last played an NBA game in November, appearing in just 10 contests this past season for the Houston Rockets. He averaged 13.4 points on 40.5 percent shooting.

The 35-year-old was traded to the Chicago Bulls in January and waived a little over a week later.

Anthony has also been linked to the Los Angeles Lakers, but that move didn't come to fruition.

If the former NBA scoring champion remains unsigned, league executives believe Anthony will ink a one-day contract to retire with the Knicks, similar to what Amar'e Stoudemire did in July 2016, according to Charania.

GustavBahler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TheGame wrote:So instead of giving those limited available minutes at PG to Frank, you would rather the Knicks sign Lin. Come on guys.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/29/jeremy-lins-nba-status-keeps-getting-sadder/

Really sad article

A day after telling The Post last summer that he hadn’t heard anything from the Nets about being traded and that he didn’t anticipate a move, Lin got shipped to Atlanta. He played 51 games for the rebuilding Hawks, but started just one and clearly wasn’t at his best physically. He eventually was bought out and waived in January.

“After the season, I had to get ready for this Asia trip. And it was the last thing I wanted to do, because I knew for six weeks I would have to just put on a smile,” Lin said. “I would have to talk about a championship that I don’t feel like I really earned. I would have to talk about a [basketball] future I don’t know if I want to have. And honestly, it’s just embarrassing. It’s tough.”

“Nowadays I spend more time thinking about quitting,” Lin admitted. “I always tell myself if I have a son, I don’t want him to make the NBA. You don’t have to deal with fame, you don’t have to deal with living your life and having all your failures on display to the world.”

There's 60 million reasons why it's not as sad as you think. BTW, there's players just as good if not better that is still waiting by the phone....Faried, Justin Holiday, Stauskas, Jerebko, Crawford...

you definitely have a point, but dude was actually crying..

He's made more money than he can spend in 2 life times, so he should stop feeling so sorry for himself.

Ron baker got the bag and hauled ass..lol..did you even see him on any ones summer league team..

Lin always found a way to play the martyr. Even while things were going very well for him. Mr "80 percent" made it about mostly about money a long time ago.

Yeah, you look at his stats and his injury history, then you look at the money he's 'earned' and it's a joke that he thinks he's been hard done by. One thing that bugged me even back during or just after Linsanity was his tone deaf whining about the racism he had endured in trying to play basketball, as if no one else in the league had suffered much worse forms of racism, and made all the more bizarre by the fact that part of the reason his career was receiving such a boost was because of his ethnicity- I mean how many times during and after Linsanity did you read that signing Lin would boost the teams profile and market share in asian markets? He's one of those people who genuinely seems to think they're one of the worlds worst sufferers, but you look at their life and can't quite figure out what exactly the hardship was.

Didnt have an issue with Lin bringing up what he perceived to be racism as he tried to become a pro baller. Where he lost me was when he was circling back to this topic years later in interviews, unprompted. Seemed like he was trying to suggest it stunted his growth as a basketball player.

What Lin did during that brief stretch was magic, but the rest of the league figured Lin out, and his game came back down to earth. Harvard degree, many millions in the bank, an extended family, no serious health issues apparently from his time as a pro athlete. Lin would have been better off spending more time IMO in speaking out against racism against those of Asian descent.

Or the struggles poor Chinese immigrants face who are smuggled into the country, indentured servants, to put it nicely. Always seemed to make it mostly about him.

I agree...

blkexec wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

jrodmc wrote:
Seriously, at this moment, talent-wise, you honestly think Lin or Stat are better? Based on what? He led OKC in scoring several times on a team with a documented no-D stat filler and an honest to goodness superstar in PG.

The Knicks just signed a bunch of FA pivots/power forwards. So your answer is to ignore the only point guard out of the three ( it's not like PG is a set position for the Knicks right now) and push forward another PF to be on the roster?

By positional need/positional value alone, Lin would be more useful than Melo and STAT. If Lin was a power forward, he would be equally as unneeded on this roster, but that's not the case.

Sometimes the more objectively talented player is left behind for a player who can fill a limited role with operational certainty for that season at least.

You ignored basic positional need to fulfill your "Melo Agenda" The problem is your proposal makes it harder for the Knicks to win games. ( They don't need another PF in the glut of ones they have already) By extension you would rather the Knicks lose games to fill out your Melo agenda. You are actually pushing something that would cause the Knicks to lose more games than win. What kind of ****ing fan are you?

Very aggressive response for what? One thing I learned about over using the word "you" in a discussion (face to face or online), it escalates the talk into a personal attack. Communication 101.

Relax!

Do I get any credit for saying "I" alot in my response? *breathes through nose* Relax.... relax... relax...