martin wrote:blkexec wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Nalod wrote:Not loving Rozier. Ambivalent about Cousins. The way things are I might just keep the piggy bank full and ignore Knicks1248 rants.
Yeah, I'd rather keep developing what we have than blow money on Rozier. Guys pining on for him are gambling on him becoming a front line starter. Why not just gamble on our young guys?
I wanted to argue with both of you... I went to find stats to make my argument, but there aren't any. Rozier took a massive step backwards last season, and two seasons ago he was average at best. I think there is this story out there that he was really good an on the ascent, but he was average at best two seasons ago and last year he sucked
It's common mistake. Guys blow up in the playoffs and the media starts the narrative that he's turned the corner. They neglect the fact that the playoffs are dependent as much on matchups and coaching as it is talent. A team then goes and signs him to a deal only to find out he really hasn't improved as much as they though. THJ is exhibit A. I'm not saying Rozier is trash, just that his market value exceeds what his value to the team would be.
to me, he has to take a one year prove-it deal. I would have no interest in anything else really
I like the 1 yr prove it deal. But Rozier is a 2 way player, who plays defense bigger than his size. Offensive wise, his stats are similar to DSJ, so on paper it's not an upgrade. And DSJ is 3 yrs younger. But Rozier has that defensive dog mentality that DSJ doesn't currently have.
Maybe my vocabulary is different than yours but how is Rozier a 2-way player when his offense sucks?
In that playoff run, he was pretty productive (which is why he's even on anybody's radar) but then came the bench role, toxic lockeroom and the reduce minutes, and he started forcing the action.
In any event, he's better than frank and kadeem..
Rozier led the Celtics to the 2018 Eastern Conference finals when Irving went down with another knee injury. During that deep playoff run, Rozier averaged 16.5 points, 5.7 assists. and 5.3 rebounds.According to sources, Rozier’s rough 2018-19 season was due to a toxic locker-room chemistry, partially created by Irving.
In a bench role, occasionally held to 10-to-12 minutes a game, Rozier did not have a big impact.
Rozier, a good penetrator, 3-point shooter and defender, finished averaging 9 points, 2.9 assists and 3.9 rebounds in 22 minutes. He shot 39 %from the field, but a respectable 35.3% from 3-point range.
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The Knicks still like his upside and would be paying for future potential
That is how I see it as well.
6/28/2019 2:07 PM