Knixkik wrote:ekstarks94 wrote:Knixkik wrote:Knicksfan wrote:Knixkik wrote:anrst wrote:Signing KD would be as dumb as the Mets trading for Robinson Cano. There is no point or logic to doing this. It will set the franchise back a decade
Disagree. The logic is finding a leader for this team. Barrett, Knox, and Mitch need someone to guide them. It's not as simple as keeping open space, develop the young, and expect youth to learn how to win on their own. Think of Denver signing Millsap as an example. An aging player signed for 30 mil per year on a losing team at the time. He has been essential to their youth developing and was worth every penny. KD's presence alone is worth it. You need a star/former star/high level player to lead the way and teach these guys how to win.
The amount on assumptions based on wishful thinking rather than reality is astounding. Justifying this signing on Durant being the same player a year later is irresponsible. Justifying it on him becoming the leader of the youngsters when he will not be there at all to be a leader is illogical. A year, guys! Its a year out and then finding out how much of his game is still there.
The best that can happen for all parties is for Durant to pick his player option and become a FA after recovering and proving how much he has left in the tank. If he does test the market, I really wonder how much that would impact his contract. There MAY BE ways to make this contract work while he is out, but you are still signing him for the player he was and not necessarily the player he will be for you. Considering the severity of this injury, that's throwing away the clean slate the Knicks got with the Porzingis deal.
KD at 80% is still worth the max. It's not like it's a supermax deal. It's a 4 year contract. If we don't sign him, that's fine too. I love the clean slate and assets and youth we have. But expecting guys like RJB, Knox, Mitch, and DSJ to develop without quality players around them, and just adding guys on 1 year deals is not the answer. You need to provide a foundation around them to help them learn how to win. It doesn't just happen. Maybe it's better to go to LA Clipper route with guys like Williams, Beverley, Gallinari etc. But you need vet leaders and good basketball players to put next to the young guys.
KD at 80% is worth the max..no question....
Listen up my firends...the Knicks are making this move...nothing changed on their end other than cautiousness in looking at the medicals....the only thing that changed is that they are not overpaying for AD in order to get KD....maybe the blessing in disguise is not getting raped by NO to get KD when KD will come knowing that he will be out next year..also we do not have to do Kyrie as a package deal
Exactly right. The KD deal doesn't hurt this team in any real way. We still have all of our young players and assets and still have max cap space as flexibility to go in a number of directions. So long as KD isn't requiring us to make a big move this summer, and is willing to come here independently and rehab for the year, it is fine.
People keep throwing their favorite percentage out like this is a computer or any other machine.
The guy just had surgery on one of the hardest injuries to come back from and you all want to act like its nothing, like signing a guy to a max to which he will miss the first year is just sound business?!? A fanbase like this one SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
There is NOTHING ASSURED, people! Everything is in play! What, do you ask?
-KD can comeback as the same player in a year. But does your opinion change if its in a year and a half? Two years maybe? Because one thing is to return to play and another is to play again at your level or close.
-KD could return as the same player. He could be a shadow of his former self for the rest of their career. Saying "80% KD is better than most" is oversimplifying the fact that any change in his body from now on could have a huge impact on his game. Ignoring this with a simple arbitrary percentage is a weak argument.
-Some players never return. Nobody is talking about this and its highly unlikely, but disregarding this fact is completely irresponsible.
Every "we can still rebuild while we wait for him" makes no sense either. Keep rebuilding then! Let him recover in his last season on GSW. Why the rush? Some even argue that there is nothing better in the horizon. Who says that? How many good opportunities could come with that cap space that you will have compromised? nobody really knows, but that already is an argument against this.
I understand our desperation, but people, this idea has such a strong potential for failure that its surprising how many of you are all for it.
6/13/2019 9:15 PM