Welpee wrote:TripleThreat wrote:Welpee wrote:Questions:1) Can Kanter get a long term deal at over $18M from any other team.
2) Can the Knicks convince Kanter that they need to see another year from him under a new coach before committing long term?
I wouldn't give Kanter a long term deal right now before seeing him perform under Fizdale. If they have to let him walk, as much as a like Kanter, we have to do what we have to do. I understand Kanter's (and KOQ's) position but it's just not in the best interest of the Knicks right now.
1) Given the current marketplace, No.
My best guess is his current value/approximation is 4/32 or 2/16, the second year being a team option or a player option depending on the pathway to possibly starting.
2) I don't see this issue as relevant to his situation. Kanter is outside his prime developmental window. He's "young" in real life terms, in NBA terms, he's a sunk cost.
The issue isn't Kanter's continued development, rather his fit in whatever system Fizdale runs.
You don't seem to get it.
The "issue" is that in ANY MODERN BASKETBALL SYSTEM, Enes Kanter is a liability.
He cannot space the floor. I keep hearing he is working on a three point shot. We'll all believe it when we see it CONSISTENTLY. He cannot defend the rim. He cannot run a basic defense. He's a low IQ player who gives good energy/burst but he's in a contract year. He's dogged it before when he's be paid before. He is still a total blackhole with the ball in his hands ( he's not a good passer, he's not even a willing passer, I doubt he can really read the floor well enough to pass safely) He is a complete sieve against the basic pick and roll.
Fizdale could run anything. Nellieball. SSOL. Princeton. Four Out. Triangle. Showtime. Literally anything. And Kanter would falter in all of it. In the modern "space and pace" game, he's obsolete.
Why would the Knicks need to "convince" him of anything?
He's asking for a long term contract in the press and pretending he's thinking about opting out because he has zero leverage. He has zero leverage because he's obsolete in the modern game. Due to injury and attrition and a massive talent deficit, he became the primary option on a team willing to overlook his flaws because they could get no one else/had no one else. It's like nailing a Jenny Craig toothless landwhale reject with herpes because she's the only warm wet hole stuck with you on an isolated desert island.
Its a "Smurf Party" and in a gaggle of sausage, Kanter is the only warm wet hole and some posters here are go ape**** over basically having a warm healthy player who actually tries most of the time.
He has no real trade value. He has no real long term value to this franchise. He's eating up a roster spot and minutes because he was the only practical salary match to rid of Melo's toxic personality/contract/lack of leadership.
There is no realistic fit where Kanter becomes the player some of you claim he can be. If he was going to be that, he would have already.
If he was willing to take 4/32 and opt out, the Knicks would sign him right away.
I hope his personal situation works out. But for this team, he's a net liability.