Marv wrote:

martin wrote:

Marv wrote:No.

I've watched every player in the league since 1962 and if lebron retired today i'd have him #7 all-time behind:

Jordan
Russell
Robertson
Bird
Chamberlain
Johnson

Who knows if i were older maybe i'd add mikan and fulks but i'm not so there you are.

Wait, who is Johnson and why are you always bringing up your Johnson into this discussion?

cuz it's magic!

lol

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:Time helps everyone forget. People tend to live in the present. No LeBron isn’t better than Jordan. Jordan hated to lose can’t say that about LeBron. I think he is ok with it. Jordan had more talent that is a myth. Look at Jordan’s roster you will see Pippen as his only star player. The rest were role players that did their jobs better than other role players and winning was very important to them a probably as much as Jordan. Jordan played defense LeBron takes plays off. LeBron is a better passer yes that is his point guard role that he wants. Jordan never really had to do that but you know and I know he could do it just as easily as LeBron. Jordan played in a different time where many teams played slow down brand of basketball less threes. Different era of basketball. Jordan took beat downs from Pistons and Knicks but responded with amazing and inspiring performances. I often watch LeBron and it’s ridiculous how he never has adversity it an open floor no resistance at all. This version of NBA is at the weakest level in any time and it’s only getting weaker and weaker.

Pippen took the tougher assignments.
Lebron goes to finals with JR smith. Not Pippen. Love, Not pippen.
Horace Grant was no slouch and a one time allstar. Much better than Tristan Thompson! https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantho01.html
They also had Jo Jo English. So good you had to say his first name TWICE!!!!

Pippen took the tougher assignments? Your absurd.

Uptown wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:Time helps everyone forget. People tend to live in the present. No LeBron isn’t better than Jordan. Jordan hated to lose can’t say that about LeBron. I think he is ok with it. Jordan had more talent that is a myth. Look at Jordan’s roster you will see Pippen as his only star player. The rest were role players that did their jobs better than other role players and winning was very important to them a probably as much as Jordan. Jordan played defense LeBron takes plays off. LeBron is a better passer yes that is his point guard role that he wants. Jordan never really had to do that but you know and I know he could do it just as easily as LeBron. Jordan played in a different time where many teams played slow down brand of basketball less threes. Different era of basketball. Jordan took beat downs from Pistons and Knicks but responded with amazing and inspiring performances. I often watch LeBron and it’s ridiculous how he never has adversity it an open floor no resistance at all. This version of NBA is at the weakest level in any time and it’s only getting weaker and weaker.

Pippen took the tougher assignments.
Lebron goes to finals with JR smith. Not Pippen. Love, Not pippen.
Horace Grant was no slouch and a one time allstar. Much better than Tristan Thompson! https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantho01.html
They also had Jo Jo English. So good you had to say his first name TWICE!!!!

Pippen took the tougher assignments? Your absurd.

Who guarded Magic after game 1 in the finals vs the Lakers? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't #23

I will say this also... #23 could guard like anyone. He worked harded on offense than Pippen so I think those roles were simply Mike worked harder on O, Scottie on D but they were the best 2-way wing combo in the history of the league I think. I would love to see Jordan/Pippen/Rodman/Harper check the Warriors. One day some AI super computer will generate accurate reconstructions of these arguments lol

Marv wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I believe so. The farther back in era you go the more physically gifted he would be to his competition with skills to match.

Not if they were granted access to the same weight training and ped's.

True, true

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:Time helps everyone forget. People tend to live in the present. No LeBron isn’t better than Jordan. Jordan hated to lose can’t say that about LeBron. I think he is ok with it. Jordan had more talent that is a myth. Look at Jordan’s roster you will see Pippen as his only star player. The rest were role players that did their jobs better than other role players and winning was very important to them a probably as much as Jordan. Jordan played defense LeBron takes plays off. LeBron is a better passer yes that is his point guard role that he wants. Jordan never really had to do that but you know and I know he could do it just as easily as LeBron. Jordan played in a different time where many teams played slow down brand of basketball less threes. Different era of basketball. Jordan took beat downs from Pistons and Knicks but responded with amazing and inspiring performances. I often watch LeBron and it’s ridiculous how he never has adversity it an open floor no resistance at all. This version of NBA is at the weakest level in any time and it’s only getting weaker and weaker.

Pippen took the tougher assignments.
Lebron goes to finals with JR smith. Not Pippen. Love, Not pippen.
Horace Grant was no slouch and a one time allstar. Much better than Tristan Thompson! https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantho01.html
They also had Jo Jo English. So good you had to say his first name TWICE!!!!

Pippen took the tougher assignments? Your absurd.

Your basketball knowledge is absurd and you expose yourself EVERY time you post. SMH

Vmart wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:Time helps everyone forget. People tend to live in the present. No LeBron isn’t better than Jordan. Jordan hated to lose can’t say that about LeBron. I think he is ok with it. Jordan had more talent that is a myth. Look at Jordan’s roster you will see Pippen as his only star player. The rest were role players that did their jobs better than other role players and winning was very important to them a probably as much as Jordan. Jordan played defense LeBron takes plays off. LeBron is a better passer yes that is his point guard role that he wants. Jordan never really had to do that but you know and I know he could do it just as easily as LeBron. Jordan played in a different time where many teams played slow down brand of basketball less threes. Different era of basketball. Jordan took beat downs from Pistons and Knicks but responded with amazing and inspiring performances. I often watch LeBron and it’s ridiculous how he never has adversity it an open floor no resistance at all. This version of NBA is at the weakest level in any time and it’s only getting weaker and weaker.

Pippen took the tougher assignments.
Lebron goes to finals with JR smith. Not Pippen. Love, Not pippen.
Horace Grant was no slouch and a one time allstar. Much better than Tristan Thompson! https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/grantho01.html
They also had Jo Jo English. So good you had to say his first name TWICE!!!!

Pippen took the tougher assignments? Your absurd.

Your basketball knowledge is absurd and you expose yourself EVERY time you post. SMH

Nalod just back my claim up with his post. It’s a myth that Pippen took the tougher assignment. Read back to Nalod’s post and his link.

Phil Jackson assigned defensive responsibilities according to position – not according to the opponent’s best perimeter player. In other words, during most instances, point guards defended point guards, shooting guards defended shooting guards, and small forwards defended small forwards – irrespective of the opposing player’s stature, skill, or talent. There were however, a few exceptions:
For the bulk of the 1996 and 1997 playoffs, Michael Jordan assumed defensive responsibilities on opposing point guards while Ron Harper guarded opposing shooting guards.
In 1996 Scottie Pippen switched with Ron Harper and guarded PG Anfernee Hardaway for the bulk of their series against the Orlando Magic.
In 1998 Scottie Pippen assumed defensive responsibilities for PG Mark Jackson during key stretches and crunchtime moments of the series against the Indiana Pace

http://nobodytouchesjordan.blogspot.com/2015/08/section-21-case-for-jordan-as-best.html?m=1

jrodmc wrote:I forget, how many chips was Pippen a part of without MJ?
Horace Fucking Grant? We're talking bout Horace Grant now? What's next, a 5 paragraph dissertation on how Luc Longley and Medical Bill Cartright paved the way for MJ to get rings?
How many first ballet HOF chip winners did MJ take with him to the finals? One painted, dress wearing psycho. Going to compare the Worm to DWade?

Unfortunately for LeKing, his legacy has been clearly televised. Lebron flops. Lebron turns it on and off. Lebron fuhhhhhhhhhucking QUIT in the playoffs. Lebron ever playing with the flu? Is MJ taking games off to rest against the Kings and Nets every year?
MJ gets to the mountain top and won. Every time he got there.

Please stop with all this bull****.

And Bill Russell did things within a team sport than no one on earth has ever come close to doing again. How many game 7's did Russell's teams lose?
Mentioning Lebron above Russell is tantamount to basketball lunacy.

Lebron's a freak of nature. Lawrence Taylor only taller, with better hops, playing basketball.

Great post.