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GustavBahler
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9/25/2017  5:28 PM
On a brighter note, Melo was traded without totally Fing the Knicks long term, which is a new experience for younger Knicks fans. Sure Presti got the better of this deal. The NTC pretty much guaranteed it. Still, we can see a lightbulb going on with mgmt. Doesn't feel like the front office (and ownership) is going from one mood swing to the next.

The stars just might be aligning as long as Perry sticks to the plan that Phil couldn't, and Dolan stays out of the way. I know other teams have been brought up in comparison to this one, but this team reminds me the most of the late 80s Knicks. Young team, hungry, with a few smart vets rotating in and out of the roster.

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9/25/2017  5:28 PM
I enjoyed that year we were good - had the return of old favorites Kurt and Camby, fun to watch, good chemistry
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9/25/2017  5:29 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

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9/25/2017  6:39 PM
Melo was everything we traded for. A me first scorer who plays one way... his. His lousy playoff performances came with him also. We had one good really enjoyable year. The rest was about about him collecting massive paychecks and telling the world how great he was.

OKC is perfect for him. 3rd option is about right. Im sure he will do well in the role. Have fun Melo.

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9/25/2017  8:58 PM
I actually didn't mind the melo era. I disliked the phil jax era more. hecame in and set up an awful team and staff that would not succeed. I actually appreciated the time melo was here. he was great to watch play the first 4 years. father time and mismanagement didn't help. I am not saying melo was 100% not the blame. he should have handled lin/ d'antoni a lot better but it wasn't a great environment to succeed. I amsuprised 2012-13 happened.
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9/25/2017  9:55 PM
Knixkik wrote:The trade didn't benefit either team. But it was still a reasonable gamble for this team. Melo was a star just entering his prime and we didn't trade any players that become stars in their own right. It limited our flexibility no doubt, but we missed on so many other moves throughout his tenure, that what we traded for him became irrelevant. It was a disappointing era, with 1 highlight season, but we gave it a try, got Melo's best years out of him, and now it's time to move on.

what if we traded those pieces for Harden instead

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9/25/2017  9:59 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed


There is a lot of revisionist stuff here. During Linsanity and post Linsanity Melo and Lin only played 17 games together. Lin sat out of the playoffs and USA basketball because he was going to be a free agent. Not sure how Melo got Lin the poison pill deal but if you can explain it pease do.
In regards to Amare the Knicks got 2/3 of a season of prime Amare. Melo wasn't around for most of that time. Amare played under 700 minutes in the 54 win season. Also, wtf is up with he couldn't win with Rose, Noah and Lee. Last season was a disaster as was the entire Phil era.
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9/25/2017  10:01 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

Nah, Amare couldn't get on the court because of injury and when we needed him most in the playoffs, he got into a fight with a fie extinguisher and took himself out of the playoffs....Speaking of playoffs, Lin was more concerned about his next payday and sat out the playoffs when his team could have used him.

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO

It was the fault of all the above...No one is absolving Melo.

Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Why are we comparing Melo to the best player of this generation again?

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

It was definitely time to move on from the Melo era...Looking forward to our rebuild. Hopefully we don't sabotage ourselves and go for a quick fix...Trust the process.

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9/25/2017  10:19 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

You are wasting your time, the trolls are pissed. It's never Melo's fault. Reading this thread is fun, the three or four of them are flailing their arms and grasping at straws to legitimize the Incredible Sulk as the greatest Knick of all time. Poor misunderstood Melo.

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9/25/2017  10:38 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Yeah, Melo MADE Walsh and Dolan trade for him. Totally forced them to accept the trade to get him, right?

If the price was too high for him guess what, they should've passed on the deal! That's not Melo's fault. You can't name one player who was irreplaceable in that Melo deal or anybody who fetched major assets in the years post Melo trade. The closest would be Mozgov who was traded for a very low first round pick and a player Walsh didn't want to include in the deal until Dolan stepped in.

So can we finally dispel this myth about how we gave up the farm to get Melo and it was Melo's fault Walsh and Dolan (mainly Dolan) accepted the trade everybody thinks was so bad.

In hindsight, teaming Melo with even a healthy Amare was a bad idea and probably wouldn't have worked out. Their games didn't compliment each other and both weren't good defensive players. Given Amare's physical breakdown Melo is largely responsible for the one good year we ended up having in the Melo era. Melo didn't make the Bargnani trade. Melo didn't bring Phil Jackson on board. Melo didn't hire Derek Fisher.

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9/25/2017  11:01 PM
Era is over. The record speaks for itself.
Its not melo's failure alone, its the teams. It was constructed poorly.
Many moving pieces for blame, but why bother. Enjoy the rebuild as the refreshing departure from a starphucked past. No former glory players to run our team, (Isiah), no sloppy coach hires, no forced by league GM/presidents, no retread neophyte GM's bossed by Dolan, and no more starphuch bad contracts tend to! Amare included. All good guys and they tried.
We have our own culture to build upon and the team will have growing pains.
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9/25/2017  11:07 PM
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
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9/25/2017  11:23 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

You are wasting your time, the trolls are pissed. It's never Melo's fault. Reading this thread is fun, the three or four of them are flailing their arms and grasping at straws to legitimize the Incredible Sulk as the greatest Knick of all time. Poor misunderstood Melo.

True, and we have to thank the nyc media for portraying melo as a star the whole time , we would have never gotten kanter if people realized melo is a washed up borderline all star. A glorified Rudy gay. With terrible advanced stats, again a chemistry killer.

Love melo the person, but again f u c k melo the player.

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9/25/2017  11:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed


There is a lot of revisionist stuff here. During Linsanity and post Linsanity Melo and Lin only played 17 games together. Lin sat out of the playoffs and USA basketball because he was going to be a free agent. Not sure how Melo got Lin the poison pill deal but if you can explain it pease do.
In regards to Amare the Knicks got 2/3 of a season of prime Amare. Melo wasn't around for most of that time. Amare played under 700 minutes in the 54 win season. Also, wtf is up with he couldn't win with Rose, Noah and Lee. Last season was a disaster as was the entire Phil era.

Talk about revisionist, how about Lin sat out cause he was injured?

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9/25/2017  11:38 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed


There is a lot of revisionist stuff here. During Linsanity and post Linsanity Melo and Lin only played 17 games together. Lin sat out of the playoffs and USA basketball because he was going to be a free agent. Not sure how Melo got Lin the poison pill deal but if you can explain it pease do.
In regards to Amare the Knicks got 2/3 of a season of prime Amare. Melo wasn't around for most of that time. Amare played under 700 minutes in the 54 win season. Also, wtf is up with he couldn't win with Rose, Noah and Lee. Last season was a disaster as was the entire Phil era.

Talk about revisionist, how about Lin sat out cause he was injured?


If I remember correctly, he said he was at 80% at playoffs time

He was good to go for the USA practice team but he turned it down. Wonder why....

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9/26/2017  4:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/26/2017  5:44 AM
jrodmc wrote:But the Linsanity era outshines them all!

Well, maybe at least 80% of 94% of it...


That was by far the most fun I have ever had as a Knicks fan. After every game I would go to campus and talk with my friends in amazement that Lin just kept putting up bigger and bigger games. It was kind of foretelling that once Melo came back from injury all the fun stopped and we went back to the ISO heavy trash Knicks.
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9/26/2017  7:10 AM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed


There is a lot of revisionist stuff here. During Linsanity and post Linsanity Melo and Lin only played 17 games together. Lin sat out of the playoffs and USA basketball because he was going to be a free agent. Not sure how Melo got Lin the poison pill deal but if you can explain it pease do.
In regards to Amare the Knicks got 2/3 of a season of prime Amare. Melo wasn't around for most of that time. Amare played under 700 minutes in the 54 win season. Also, wtf is up with he couldn't win with Rose, Noah and Lee. Last season was a disaster as was the entire Phil era.

Talk about revisionist, how about Lin sat out cause he was injured?

I think he sat out because he wasn't 100%. From what I remembered he was cleared to play, it was on him to determine if he could go and he chose not to. Now, only Lin knows how his body felt so questioning a player for not playing due to injury is shaky ground. But I do remember it was his decision not to play.
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9/26/2017  7:17 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

You are wasting your time, the trolls are pissed. It's never Melo's fault. Reading this thread is fun, the three or four of them are flailing their arms and grasping at straws to legitimize the Incredible Sulk as the greatest Knick of all time. Poor misunderstood Melo.

True, and we have to thank the nyc media for portraying melo as a star the whole time , we would have never gotten kanter if people realized melo is a washed up borderline all star. A glorified Rudy gay. With terrible advanced stats, again a chemistry killer.

Love melo the person, but again f u c k melo the player.

People keep referencing this "chemistry killer" thing, yet just about all of his teammates (both Denver and Knicks) speak glowingly about him. Mike Woodson loved the guy. In a 15 year career you can point out three people he had issues with: George Karl, MDA, and a mediocre player (Lin). But that makes him a "chemistry killer?"
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9/26/2017  8:51 AM
Welpee wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Man, what a terrible era and it sucked from the beginning to end . First we traded the farm for him because he couldn’t wait till the off season and wanted more money. Then he couldn’t play with Amar’e , then it was the coaches system didn’t fit, then he didn’t like linsanity, then MDA couldn’t deal with the melo drama, then one good year, then the worst years in knicks history,Phil, ntc when we should have let him walk, then it was the triangle, Porzingis, and then some of the worst melo drama till the end.

I like melo I think he’s not a bad guy he dose a lot off the court, but as a player F U C K melo.

The only era that sucked more then the melo era was the Isiah era, at least outta all of this we got Porzingis, and one good year .


Good bye melo smell ya later you stunk the life out of this team.

Forgot to mention how he Wasted all the talent we surrounded him with.

So now that we got rid of the reason we sucked, who do you think we will play in the finals this year?


Lol hopeful you can ask me that question in a few years.

Yea talent
Amar’e he couldn’t play with
Linsanty took away his spotlight
He couldn’t win with rose,Noah,KP,lee

But it was the coach
It was the system
It was the players/talent

It was never MELO


Who did lebron take to the chip in his first showdown before moving to miami

The 2006-07 Cleveland Cavs had way less talent then most of Melos Knick teams... melo is a big looser who doesn’t make his teammates better he makes them worse.

If we switched melo out with lebron and lebron had

Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Fields
Billips

The one hole was fields but that wouldn’t have stopped lebron from winning a chip with that team

He would have won a chip

Regardless ISO ball is finally dead again bye bye melo smell ya later

I wish him well buy I’m not going to hold my breath that he has success in okc

Chances are he will ruin the team chemistry there to by holding on the the ball forever and chucking up bad shots... remember old melo dose not take it to the hoop like young melo did he just settles for jump shots.... when asked if he would be ok with coming off the bench he laughed at his interview today... if i were him I wouldn’t laugh with his awful defense and iso ball its probably where he is headed

You are wasting your time, the trolls are pissed. It's never Melo's fault. Reading this thread is fun, the three or four of them are flailing their arms and grasping at straws to legitimize the Incredible Sulk as the greatest Knick of all time. Poor misunderstood Melo.

True, and we have to thank the nyc media for portraying melo as a star the whole time , we would have never gotten kanter if people realized melo is a washed up borderline all star. A glorified Rudy gay. With terrible advanced stats, again a chemistry killer.

Love melo the person, but again f u c k melo the player.

People keep referencing this "chemistry killer" thing, yet just about all of his teammates (both Denver and Knicks) speak glowingly about him. Mike Woodson loved the guy. In a 15 year career you can point out three people he had issues with: George Karl, MDA, and a mediocre player (Lin). But that makes him a "chemistry killer?"
Tyson and Amare said things as well. Melo has always been liked his teammates. He's a good guy. He's generous. He cares about people. He's a good (great really) philanthropist. He also plays basketball one way and simply refuses to budge from that. If that means dogging it and getting a coach fired so be it. He should have known better. Nobody tells Melo to go stand in a corner.

The Knicks were playing good ball under MDA for that stretch. Melo quit on him. I was not a fan of that. I showered Melo with praise the following year as he backed it up with what was probably a career year. After that? Back to holding the ball, apathy on defense and combine that with a less talented supporting cast and you get some years of bad basketball.

This thread is loaded with the spoutings of posters emotional investment in this player, positive and negative. He was a hell of a scorer. He could light it up any time and often he did. Overall he was a 2nd tier star, continued his pattern of stinking in the playoffs and didnt get much help in terms of supporting cast. He's the star, and he's going to take blame. Thats how it works for stars and QBs.

End of the day it wasnt that memorable. Winning big leaves a lasting impression. We won a playoff series. In a few years nobody is going to care about anything he did or didnt do here. Time to move on.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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9/26/2017  9:03 AM
arkrud wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:the era did suck. Melo deserves a good chunk of the blame. the various management regimes also deserves a good chunk of blame too. Who was the best player Melo played with? Amar'e had given too much the year before and was never really the same... you could say Chandler, who we gave up on... a couple others come to mind, but I'll say a 40 y/o Jason Kidd was the best teammate Melo got to play with. The other players around him were for the most part awful

Can kinda agree but look at who Ewing brought to the chip and the playoffs every year he was a knick.

Ewing has some of the worst supporting cast and he’s a forever warrior/winner even with out the chip.melo will leave with the opposite legacy as a failure

Ewing definitely was a more impactful player and, I agree, the reason he didn't win is because there wasn't more around him. That said, he did benefit from Bill Cartwright, Bernard King, Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley, Rod Strickland, John Starks, Anthony Mason, Xavier McDaniel, Allan Houston, Larry Johnson, (a young) Marcus Camby, Latrell Spreewell, (a young) Kurt Thomas

The Ewing era is sad because they really could have won a championship... and probably would have come close had Isiah Thomas elected to get traded to the Knicks...

In the case of Melo, there was a bunch of garbage around him. Ewing played with Doc Rivers and and Rolando Blackman and they didn't make my list above... yet Jason Kidd was essentially in the same role for a Melo Knicks team, and Kidd is probably the best player Melo ever played with here

If the bold is really true on any level, than that should end all arguments.

Except Melo is the main reason of this...
All players we get and did not get are because of the "center-piece".

Ohhhhhhh yeah, that's right, along with an NTC, Melo runs the organization's trades, salary cap and also decides who to draft! Got it! Because there's no documented evidence that Melo is an incredible talent playing alongside actual talent. Unfortunately, no actual talent seems to want to come to NYC and put up with the media circus, the slightly deranged fanbase, and our wonderfully well-adjusted owner... Because, as everyone knows, Melo managed to ensure Dolan would be in charge here as well...

Melo's gone now fellas, you can stop taking the stupid pills...

The Melo era sucked

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