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Knickoftime
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7/20/2017  2:00 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
anrst wrote:but Darly Morey is so smart, right?
its funny... considered one of the great GMs and a mover and a shaker and he's the guy who gave Anderson 4/$80. Just for the record THATS MORE THAN NOAH.

But yea.. Morey is the best and he will make it happen. Yawn. Knicks arent taking that **** contract and if they were they would have already. I think they waive him before they take Anderson. There would have to be some REALLY attractive assets coming back. Anderson could be a nice bench player. HE's not a bad player, he's just insanely overpriced. His walk year in Orlando he had a hell of a season. He never really reached that again. He's just too bad defensively to leave out there.

Maybe he has some "advanced metrics" that indicate Anderson is a stud?

LIke a 14 game improvement? He was an ingredient. I make a cake, I leave out one thing the cake don't bake. "Flour tastes awful, its over rated, why is it so important?"
MDA came in. He has his own recipe. Melo would be a better version of what Anderson does. Be a perimeter player.

Im not angling for Anderson btw, just that one player is not a team.


Wins is just a silly metric for star nerds

Anderson was def a MDA move and Morey giving MDA the pieces he craves ala a stretch 4. He put up 17-6 for the Pelicans the year before so they most likely bought into being a stretch 4 that can get buckets and be a threat.

The 14 wins was more Harden and Capella both bringing their games to another level. Of course the spacing that Gordan and Anderson contributed. And the 3&D of Beverly and Ariza all contributed to them being able to bring their games to another level. But I they could have replaced Gordan and Anderson with other 3 point shooters and probably have similar success.


Anderson had their best on/off #s and was a huge part of their improvement.

Then he should be more attractive to a team with a 3 year competitive window, which the Knicks won't have.

Like Portland, for example.

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7/20/2017  2:12 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
anrst wrote:but Darly Morey is so smart, right?
its funny... considered one of the great GMs and a mover and a shaker and he's the guy who gave Anderson 4/$80. Just for the record THATS MORE THAN NOAH.

But yea.. Morey is the best and he will make it happen. Yawn. Knicks arent taking that **** contract and if they were they would have already. I think they waive him before they take Anderson. There would have to be some REALLY attractive assets coming back. Anderson could be a nice bench player. HE's not a bad player, he's just insanely overpriced. His walk year in Orlando he had a hell of a season. He never really reached that again. He's just too bad defensively to leave out there.

Maybe he has some "advanced metrics" that indicate Anderson is a stud?

LIke a 14 game improvement? He was an ingredient. I make a cake, I leave out one thing the cake don't bake. "Flour tastes awful, its over rated, why is it so important?"
MDA came in. He has his own recipe. Melo would be a better version of what Anderson does. Be a perimeter player.

Im not angling for Anderson btw, just that one player is not a team.


Wins is just a silly metric for star nerds

Anderson was def a MDA move and Morey giving MDA the pieces he craves ala a stretch 4. He put up 17-6 for the Pelicans the year before so they most likely bought into being a stretch 4 that can get buckets and be a threat.

The 14 wins was more Harden and Capella both bringing their games to another level. Of course the spacing that Gordan and Anderson contributed. And the 3&D of Beverly and Ariza all contributed to them being able to bring their games to another level. But I they could have replaced Gordan and Anderson with other 3 point shooters and probably have similar success.


Anderson had their best on/off #s and was a huge part of their improvement.

Then he should be more attractive to a team with a 3 year competitive window, which the Knicks won't have.

Like Portland, for example.


Obviously that option is not on the table. His age fits better than Melo's with our long-term plans. What alternative plan do you have? Again, I'll take Anderson but there has to be sweetener (draft picks and their Euro PG for starters).
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7/20/2017  2:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
anrst wrote:but Darly Morey is so smart, right?
its funny... considered one of the great GMs and a mover and a shaker and he's the guy who gave Anderson 4/$80. Just for the record THATS MORE THAN NOAH.

But yea.. Morey is the best and he will make it happen. Yawn. Knicks arent taking that **** contract and if they were they would have already. I think they waive him before they take Anderson. There would have to be some REALLY attractive assets coming back. Anderson could be a nice bench player. HE's not a bad player, he's just insanely overpriced. His walk year in Orlando he had a hell of a season. He never really reached that again. He's just too bad defensively to leave out there.

Maybe he has some "advanced metrics" that indicate Anderson is a stud?

LIke a 14 game improvement? He was an ingredient. I make a cake, I leave out one thing the cake don't bake. "Flour tastes awful, its over rated, why is it so important?"
MDA came in. He has his own recipe. Melo would be a better version of what Anderson does. Be a perimeter player.

Im not angling for Anderson btw, just that one player is not a team.


Wins is just a silly metric for star nerds

Anderson was def a MDA move and Morey giving MDA the pieces he craves ala a stretch 4. He put up 17-6 for the Pelicans the year before so they most likely bought into being a stretch 4 that can get buckets and be a threat.

The 14 wins was more Harden and Capella both bringing their games to another level. Of course the spacing that Gordan and Anderson contributed. And the 3&D of Beverly and Ariza all contributed to them being able to bring their games to another level. But I they could have replaced Gordan and Anderson with other 3 point shooters and probably have similar success.


Anderson had their best on/off #s and was a huge part of their improvement.

Then he should be more attractive to a team with a 3 year competitive window, which the Knicks won't have.

Like Portland, for example.


Obviously that option is not on the table. His age fits better than Melo's with our long-term plans. What alternative plan do you have? Again, I'll take Anderson but there has to be sweetener (draft picks and their Euro PG for starters).

His 2019-2020 salary does no fit with Knicks plans.

Alternative is do nothing.

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7/20/2017  2:32 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
anrst wrote:but Darly Morey is so smart, right?
its funny... considered one of the great GMs and a mover and a shaker and he's the guy who gave Anderson 4/$80. Just for the record THATS MORE THAN NOAH.

But yea.. Morey is the best and he will make it happen. Yawn. Knicks arent taking that **** contract and if they were they would have already. I think they waive him before they take Anderson. There would have to be some REALLY attractive assets coming back. Anderson could be a nice bench player. HE's not a bad player, he's just insanely overpriced. His walk year in Orlando he had a hell of a season. He never really reached that again. He's just too bad defensively to leave out there.

Maybe he has some "advanced metrics" that indicate Anderson is a stud?

LIke a 14 game improvement? He was an ingredient. I make a cake, I leave out one thing the cake don't bake. "Flour tastes awful, its over rated, why is it so important?"
MDA came in. He has his own recipe. Melo would be a better version of what Anderson does. Be a perimeter player.

Im not angling for Anderson btw, just that one player is not a team.


Wins is just a silly metric for star nerds

Anderson was def a MDA move and Morey giving MDA the pieces he craves ala a stretch 4. He put up 17-6 for the Pelicans the year before so they most likely bought into being a stretch 4 that can get buckets and be a threat.

The 14 wins was more Harden and Capella both bringing their games to another level. Of course the spacing that Gordan and Anderson contributed. And the 3&D of Beverly and Ariza all contributed to them being able to bring their games to another level. But I they could have replaced Gordan and Anderson with other 3 point shooters and probably have similar success.


Anderson had their best on/off #s and was a huge part of their improvement.

Then he should be more attractive to a team with a 3 year competitive window, which the Knicks won't have.

Like Portland, for example.


Obviously that option is not on the table. His age fits better than Melo's with our long-term plans. What alternative plan do you have? Again, I'll take Anderson but there has to be sweetener (draft picks and their Euro PG for starters).

His 2019-2020 salary does no fit with Knicks plans.

Alternative is do nothing.

I just read that the cap isn't going up any time soon, maybe a couple mill at best..so I agree with u

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7/20/2017  2:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/20/2017  2:40 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Welpee wrote:
fishmike wrote:
anrst wrote:but Darly Morey is so smart, right?
its funny... considered one of the great GMs and a mover and a shaker and he's the guy who gave Anderson 4/$80. Just for the record THATS MORE THAN NOAH.

But yea.. Morey is the best and he will make it happen. Yawn. Knicks arent taking that **** contract and if they were they would have already. I think they waive him before they take Anderson. There would have to be some REALLY attractive assets coming back. Anderson could be a nice bench player. HE's not a bad player, he's just insanely overpriced. His walk year in Orlando he had a hell of a season. He never really reached that again. He's just too bad defensively to leave out there.

Maybe he has some "advanced metrics" that indicate Anderson is a stud?

LIke a 14 game improvement? He was an ingredient. I make a cake, I leave out one thing the cake don't bake. "Flour tastes awful, its over rated, why is it so important?"
MDA came in. He has his own recipe. Melo would be a better version of what Anderson does. Be a perimeter player.

Im not angling for Anderson btw, just that one player is not a team.


Wins is just a silly metric for star nerds

Anderson was def a MDA move and Morey giving MDA the pieces he craves ala a stretch 4. He put up 17-6 for the Pelicans the year before so they most likely bought into being a stretch 4 that can get buckets and be a threat.

The 14 wins was more Harden and Capella both bringing their games to another level. Of course the spacing that Gordan and Anderson contributed. And the 3&D of Beverly and Ariza all contributed to them being able to bring their games to another level. But I they could have replaced Gordan and Anderson with other 3 point shooters and probably have similar success.


Anderson had their best on/off #s and was a huge part of their improvement.

Then he should be more attractive to a team with a 3 year competitive window, which the Knicks won't have.

Like Portland, for example.


Obviously that option is not on the table. His age fits better than Melo's with our long-term plans. What alternative plan do you have? Again, I'll take Anderson but there has to be sweetener (draft picks and their Euro PG for starters).

His 2019-2020 salary does no fit with Knicks plans.

Alternative is do nothing.


I'm willing to agree to disagree on whether that alternative is better.
I also in the other thread had us getting Ariza who is a steal at $7 mil (and a big trade asset if we don't want to keep him).
Ryan Anderson is really bad

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