knicks1248 wrote:whats the skinny on melo and the vet pg

Prepared to keep him if no good deal, plan on getting a veteran PG in the next few weeks.

GustavBahler wrote:

Vmart wrote:The more you talk about culture more it will go down. Best to never speak about and just expect what you want. Telling other about culture and all that just gives media fuel. This to me is just a waste of a press conference.

The Knicks are known for having the worst culture in the league, no way avoiding that subject at a press conference with reporters asking about the culture.

Talk about culture with the one that blow everything out of proportion. That's going to help set the culture straight. Ridiculous if that is the topic of discussion. The reason you don't talk about culture is you can't predict player behavior. The player behavior dictates management behavior. When you discuss culture to the public then management is setting itself up for failure.

HofstraBBall wrote:Mills seems slimmy as usual. Noticed Perry looking at Mills after responding. As though looking for approval and making sure he did not say anything wrong. Seems like this will be the same ole Mills/Dolan show.

I think its too early to assume that. They haven't spent all that much time together, and they want to make sure that they speak as an one voice going forward. I believe Mills will let Perry work. Except for bringing in his own people, Im guessing he will have as much say as Griffin would if he were given the job with autonomy over personnel decisions.

Putting the house cleaning issue aside, I think the main reason Mills wants final say is because he wants to take some of the credit for the BBall decisions if the Knicks start turning things around. Getting positive attention in the media.

He's been at MSG in one capacity or another for almost two decades, and never in that time did I hear one person say or write anything about Mills being a good exec on the BBall side. I think this is more about redemption for Mills than anything.

If Mills lets Perry do his job, he can take all the credit he wants for all I care.

stanleybostitch wrote:

Vmart wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Vmart wrote:The more you talk about culture more it will go down. Best to never speak about and just expect what you want. Telling other about culture and all that just gives media fuel. This to me is just a waste of a press conference.

The Knicks are known for having the worst culture in the league, no way avoiding that subject at a press conference with reporters asking about the culture.

Talk about culture with the one that blow everything out of proportion. That's going to help set the culture straight. Ridiculous if that is the topic of discussion. The reason you don't talk about culture is you can't predict player behavior. The player behavior dictates management behavior. When you discuss culture to the public then management is setting itself up for failure.

Culture is nothing but the collection of individual behaviors. What they are saying by focusing on culture is that they will not recruit, support, or enable me-first players. They want to build a team, which requires individual players to play within a team concept. When you get players on board with that and executing a team game on the floor you will see success and that is the culture change they are looking to enact.

Ok they make a move to fire Phil based on players demand. The are catering to KP who skipped out on his exit interview. Every new regime points to culture but they all leave because of it failing. Talking about culture is equivalent to talking about bullshyt.

Nalod wrote:
Knicks1248: I hate the knicks.
Mills: we can tell
Knicks1248: You say the same thing, things we want to hear!!!
Mills: You need need meds!
Jrod: If you won't buy Melo out, why even mention him?
Mills: He is a knick!
Jrod: but you don't say nice things about him!
Mills: We only say good things about him. Phil said he holds the ball. Scathing right?
Bonnie: Analytically speaking.......
Perry: Oh snap, bring it, lets go!!!!!!
Isiah: Whats up!!! Im still here, I am president of the Liberty, the WOMENS team!!!!
Nalod: Wasn't that a demotion?
Isiah: I get to harass Large Lesbian Women!!! I love it!!!
Isola: So whats next knicks, you have many things to do before we turn it around!!!
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Phil: Whoa, GamWeeeeeed!!!!!
Jrod: Another crack at melo, we have so many threads and haters about.......
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Berman: Will you trade Melo?
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Oak: Touch me and see what happens!
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Berman: So we gonna do this every three years?
Perry: Im so happy
Mills; Yep
Isiah: I'll still be here!!!
Anucha: Im so happy!
Lupica: What do you think will be Phils legacy?
Dolan: Dude, we got the most excellent grow house in Westchester!!! Its epic!!! Buds the size of La La's ego!!!
Jrod: I know it, I knew it!!!! Someone was gonna say it!
Enyspree: We in the drivers seat!
Marbury: Get in the back, or what!
Oak: Touch me and see what happens!
Dolan: Wanna see the grow house?
Spree: Yeah!!!!! LEts go again!! love the Dolan Chronic! Mellow!!!!!
Melo: you named a strain after me?
Dolan: Azoff gets the best stuff!!!! We got our own now!
Lebron: Phil gone, you never knowl
Mills: Take them Talents!!!
Perry: Im going to meet with Melo, Phil left some shrooms in his desk.
Melo: Yellow rose of Texas..........Yee haw!!!
Cp3: lets insure Hardens nasty beard!
Melo: Cowgirl!!!!!
KP: I lost my virginity this summer!!
UK poster: if you don't post pictures or video, it does not happen
Janis: LOL!!!! You don't know why they call him "the unicorn"!!!! Portzingis Men have "TUSK"!!!!
Marbury: need a bigger truck!
Oak: Stick that tusk up my ass please and see what happens!
Dolan: teehee, Oak is high as hell!!!! We besties now!
Oak: man, I said that, its messed up, I meant........Never mind!
Spree: Lets go, this sucks!
Oak: Get Marbury......
Dolan: Hey guys...Can I....
Spree: too soon!
MIlls: Ok, lets bring up Coach Jeff and .........

Nalod wrote:
Knicks1248: I hate the knicks.
Mills: we can tell
Knicks1248: You say the same thing, things we want to hear!!!
Mills: You need need meds!
Jrod: If you won't buy Melo out, why even mention him?
Mills: He is a knick!
Jrod: but you don't say nice things about him!
Mills: We only say good things about him. Phil said he holds the ball. Scathing right?
Bonnie: Analytically speaking.......
Perry: Oh snap, bring it, lets go!!!!!!
Isiah: Whats up!!! Im still here, I am president of the Liberty, the WOMENS team!!!!
Nalod: Wasn't that a demotion?
Isiah: I get to harass Large Lesbian Women!!! I love it!!!
Isola: So whats next knicks, you have many things to do before we turn it around!!!
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Phil: Whoa, GamWeeeeeed!!!!!
Jrod: Another crack at melo, we have so many threads and haters about.......
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Berman: Will you trade Melo?
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Oak: Touch me and see what happens!
Perry: <Crickets>
Mills: <Crickets>
Isiah: <Crickets>
Berman: So we gonna do this every three years?
Perry: Im so happy
Mills; Yep
Isiah: I'll still be here!!!
Anucha: Im so happy!
Lupica: What do you think will be Phils legacy?
Dolan: Dude, we got the most excellent grow house in Westchester!!! Its epic!!! Buds the size of La La's ego!!!
Jrod: I know it, I knew it!!!! Someone was gonna say it!
Enyspree: We in the drivers seat!
Marbury: Get in the back, or what!
Oak: Touch me and see what happens!
Dolan: Wanna see the grow house?
Spree: Yeah!!!!! LEts go again!! love the Dolan Chronic! Mellow!!!!!
Melo: you named a strain after me?
Dolan: Azoff gets the best stuff!!!! We got our own now!
Lebron: Phil gone, you never knowl
Mills: Take them Talents!!!
Perry: Im going to meet with Melo, Phil left some shrooms in his desk.
Melo: Yellow rose of Texas..........Yee haw!!!
Cp3: lets insure Hardens nasty beard!
Melo: Cowgirl!!!!!
KP: I lost my virginity this summer!!
UK poster: if you don't post pictures or video, it does not happen
Janis: LOL!!!! You don't know why they call him "the unicorn"!!!! Portzingis Men have "TUSK"!!!!
Marbury: need a bigger truck!
Oak: Stick that tusk up my ass please and see what happens!
Dolan: teehee, Oak is high as hell!!!! We besties now!
Oak: man, I said that, its messed up, I meant........Never mind!
Spree: Lets go, this sucks!
Oak: Get Marbury......
Dolan: Hey guys...Can I....
Spree: too soon!
MIlls: Ok, lets bring up Coach Jeff and .........

clearly you have a lot of free time on you hands..lol

HofstraBBall wrote:Mills seems slimmy as usual. Noticed Perry looking at Mills after responding. As though looking for approval and making sure he did not say anything wrong. Seems like this will be the same ole Mills/Dolan show.

Did you actually watch the whole press conference? I think Perry looked at Mills once. There was one question asked to both Mills and Perry and Perry jumped in and answered it first. Mills just said he agreed with Perry. Are you so jaded about the past that you can't see a lot of positives from this? Dolan has already stated he is staying out of the basketball. They asked Mills what he learned from the past and he said in the past he was Pres/GM and decided he needed a GM to make basketball decisions. Team going with youth, athletic players, length, and building thru the draft. How can any Knick fan not be optimistic about this formula???