Knickoftime wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:It's as if we don't even care about anything, We have nothing serious going on with anyone.

Are we suppose to give a 18 yr old kid 30 minutes a night..wtf, ever decent pg is done except for rose and jennings...

What do you want them to do?

aside from sitting on their hands, lets wait till every rebuilding team takes all the solid role players,then will pick up the scraps

Avoiding the question is a tell.

What did you want them to do... specifically?

sign a starting pg and sg because we have none..

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

meloshouldgo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

not unless they ask Melo to stay home

Well at this point if we fail to move him, yea we starburry him until he agrees to move on.

With that said, I think melo will be traded soon just waiting on Hayward ...

Melo only managed 31 wins and that was with rose, why would that number of wins increase without rose ?

I'd say if melo stays we're still a top 3 lottery team.

meloshouldgo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

not unless they ask Melo to stay home

Well at this point if we fail to move him, yea we starburry him until he agrees to move on.

With that said, I think melo will be traded soon just waiting on Hayward ...

Melo only managed 31 wins and that was with rose, why would that number of wins increase without rose ?

I'd say if melo stays we're still a top 3 lottery team.

Both Melo and Rose are losers and they "lead us" to more losses, than wins. But each has enough game left to pull in wins against the really bad teams. In the East we will play more bad teams than good, you do the math. I want to assure a 17 win team, otherwise we will find a way to fukk it up.

You mean like slipping to 4 instead of getting a true stud in Towns

meloshouldgo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

not unless they ask Melo to stay home

Well at this point if we fail to move him, yea we starburry him until he agrees to move on.

With that said, I think melo will be traded soon just waiting on Hayward ...

Melo only managed 31 wins and that was with rose, why would that number of wins increase without rose ?

I'd say if melo stays we're still a top 3 lottery team.

Both Melo and Rose are losers and they "lead us" to more losses, than wins. But each has enough game left to pull in wins against the really bad teams. In the East we will play more bad teams than good, you do the math. I want to assure a 17 win team, otherwise we will find a way to fukk it up.

With the way the East is going the Knicks may not be bad enough to grant your Lotto wishes. I'm just gonna go with the flow. We're gonna learn a LOT about the young developing players we have and the Coaches. It's crucial that we get to see these players in the crucible of lead roles in the NBA.

There will be changes and we're just going to have to be patient a little longer to see what the FO does. Then we can try to assess what the team can do next season.

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

Don't make me laugh..The knicks are taking applicants for a new president as we speak, That means that he will come in with his own people and ideas. This is not like changing coaches or Gm's.

That's why Mills is pulling for the position because he knows the next guy coming in will escort him out the building, or give him some consulting role (only because of dolan).

The reason we're not attracting FA is because without a president, there's no real direction. The coach, the gm, the scouts, everyone associated with the team now can be gone, just like phil did woodson and them. you don't think agents know this

So to sit there and believe were continue on with phils plan, with phils Boys, is naive and ridiculous thinking. I have never seen a president continue in the same route as the previous one, in no line of business.
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fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

My words exactly! I am loving every second of this offseason. Its funny that I remember Phil saying that he was training Mills because he felt that he was going to be the future executive of the Knicks and it has actually come to pass.

Not too hard to figure out how this works.

Young players get as much time as they can handle...win or lose.

KP, Willy, Baker, and Frank should get over 30+MPG, win or lose. Dotson should get 25+MPG. Give Kornet enough playing time to see if he's a keeper.

Lee, KOQ, and Lance should get enough time to show they're worth acquiring for picks at the trade deadline.

Why sign decent FAs who will keep you from getting a top 5 pick next year and not be around when our young core is in their prime.

The only vet signed should be a PG who can help to groom Ntilikina.

Hernangomez/O'Quinn/Noah
Porzingis/Thomas
Melo/Kuzminskas
Lee/Dotson
Baker/Ntilikina

Obviously we are trying to trade Melo.
However the roster and rotation is pretty much set outside of making tradees.

Any trades really aren't going to be made until Melo domino drops, first.

I think a combo guard or a 2 guard that can handle the ball is what we could use. If we trade Melo, we need an athletic 3. Outside of that, we are what we are right now. We have some young players in KP, Willy, Ntili and we just have to develop them around whatever else we have.

I for one am ready for a point guard rotation of Baker and Ntili. So what if they are young and not a star PG? We had Derrick Rose, Melo and KP last year and won 1 less game than the previous year when we had Jose, Galloway and Grant running point.

To me their names don't excite people but Baker/Ntilikina will be better than Rose/Jennings. If Baker has improved his set shooting, I would even argue we should start both of them together as they have the size and versatility to play both guard spots. Bring CLee off the bench for some bench scoring.

We really need this Ntilikina kid to be something. Whether it's on the defensive side. Some ballhandling. Some good passes. We need this kid to be ready to play 20 to 25 minutes a game right away. I think he will be. I saw his games on youtube, and I think he is more NBA ready than many realize. He isn't going to be a star right away, but he will bring energy and hustle plays as well as some point guard skills. If we were playing Galloway 20 to 25 minutes two years ago as a rookie, we can definitely do the same with this kid. He's got much more upside.

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

Don't make me laugh..The knicks are taking applicants for a new president as we speak, That means that he will come in with his own people and ideas. This is not like changing coaches or Gm's.

That's why Mills is pulling for the position because he knows the next guy coming in will escort him out the building, or give him some consulting role (only because of dolan).

The reason we're not attracting FA is because without a president, there's no real direction. The coach, the gm, the scouts, everyone associated with the team now can be gone, just like phil did woodson and them. you don't think agents know this

So to sit there and believe were continue on with phils plan, with phils Boys, is naive and ridiculous thinking. I have never seen a president continue in the same route as the previous one, in no line of business.
,

Your source that confirms this story of yours?

pick up a news paper, we already spoke to griffen, do you know the meaning of the word interim, and How the hell can phil (who had zero exec experience) be grooming someone.

That's like your kids grooming you to be a parent..lol

knicks1248 wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:This is the best offseason ever! For once we are not buying bandaids to create pretenders to fill the seats with disappointing fans . Phil might be gone but he definitely installed his plan into mills and mills an't going anywhere! For once we get to build a real winning culture around KP through the draft !

Next year
Kp
Willy
Defensive sf
Doncic
Frank

If it takes another year after next great another top 3 pick to fill in at sf

By then KP might be the best center in the league and we have the warriors of the east contending for the next 15 years

Again for once we have a management in place looking at the bigger picture!!building a real winning sustainable culture!

Don't make me laugh..The knicks are taking applicants for a new president as we speak, That means that he will come in with his own people and ideas. This is not like changing coaches or Gm's.

That's why Mills is pulling for the position because he knows the next guy coming in will escort him out the building, or give him some consulting role (only because of dolan).

The reason we're not attracting FA is because without a president, there's no real direction. The coach, the gm, the scouts, everyone associated with the team now can be gone, just like phil did woodson and them. you don't think agents know this

So to sit there and believe were continue on with phils plan, with phils Boys, is naive and ridiculous thinking. I have never seen a president continue in the same route as the previous one, in no line of business.
,

Your source that confirms this story of yours?

pick up a news paper, we already spoke to griffen, do you know the meaning of the word interim, and How the hell can phil (who had zero exec experience) be grooming someone.

That's like your kids grooming you to be a parent..lol

LOL... the fresh, new beauty of unrequited Phil love... that 17 win season never really happened! Phil's a REAL NEW YORKER! Remember the Albany Patroons? SMH