CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:When I said power struggle, actually I did not mean Phil and Melo. There are many reasons Phil got fired, but why happened now? It has to be someone who get benefit out of it. Maybe Mills, or maybe that dude advising Dolan to take Uriji. I meant those guys who asked Dolan to push Phil out.

Melo may not like Phil, but I don't think he would not like another 3-D guy here because it only would help him.

Ndour thinks he is the victim of this power struggle. It is not my idea.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/02/ex-knick-wonders-if-hes-1-3m-victim-of-phil-jackson-firing/

“Basically they needed some space in the salary cap,’’ Ndour said after the Knicks explained the decision. “That’s what they say. It had nothing to do with basketball. Just business.’’

“All I can say is Phil is the main reason I was here with the Knicks,’’ Ndour said when asked if this would’ve happened had Jackson not been canned. “Whether I’d stay with the Knicks or not, I have no idea.

And Randle? I don't know Randle.

btw, maybe we can say Gaines will be gone as well?

Ndour’s biggest fan in the organization was top Jackson adviser Clarence Gaines Jr.

His opinion is no longer important.

I know you like Melo. I understand it. I respect it. But at the end, everything shouldn't have happened. Melo is not the evil man, but he is certainly not innocent. Trying little harder to play within triangle with his new teammates would not cut his head off. Yeah, he won, but at what cost?

It turns out everyone loses. The only winner is Steve "I am always alive" Mills.

Oh, if you want to say there is no power struggle behind it and it is wise to fire Phil 3 days before FA and it is all normal and reasonable. It is fine, I can understand.

Sooner and later, Melo will have a new team and he probably will have a chance to get a ring. I see no reason that you will not be happy. You should be very happy, and have another team to root for.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:I don't really think they didn't want to sign big FA. It is just that they couldn't. Not signing anyone may be good for Knicks but bad for Mills because it would look like he is incompetent. He is trying very hard to make a name for himself.

This said, if Knicks wanted to refrain from overspending, they should have resigned Holiday. His contract is cheap and obviously we still could have traded him later for something if we had better young players.

Not signing him could have two meaning. It is just my guessing.

1. Like Ndour, Holiday probably is at the wrong side of power struggle. Probably Phil liked him so he is let go. It sounds crazy and sad, but it fits Knicks.

2. Perhaps they aim for a super FA and need the caps. Maybe George Hill? I don't know. He is 31 years old, right? Then it is quite possible that Knicks wants him. Probably 30mil per year. (I want to die)

Phil is gone and it sounds like Melo will be. I don't think there is a power struggle anymore. I think the Knicks are opening up more cap space either to facilitate a Melo trade or they want to sign someone, Hill?
Ndour a part of a power struggle is a bit funny. The way Randle is playing he maybe a part of a power struggle as well.

My point was that the 15th man getting waived for cap space isn't the sign of a power struggle or a slap in the face to Gaines. Ndour's contract was structured so the Knicks could waive him for cap space or if he didn't produce. He was right, it was business.

Not to mention he will probably stay in Westchester and can be resigned.

mlby1215 wrote:My point is that Ndour thinks it is, and then I wonders if it is similar for Holiday.

At the end, he is 25 and Gaines recommended him. So it is still not enough to take a chance on him for another year with 1.3mil in a 17-man squad? If there is a basketball reason, I do not think it would be a strong one. If this is a business reason, I think it is very horrible because it means we are going to sign a very big FA in order to, again, win now.

I am sorry if I offended you. I am still very bitter. As a knicks fan now I am very disappointed.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:When I said power struggle, actually I did not mean Phil and Melo. There are many reasons Phil got fired, but why happened now? It has to be someone who get benefit out of it. Maybe Mills, or maybe that dude advising Dolan to take Uriji. I meant those guys who asked Dolan to push Phil out.

Melo may not like Phil, but I don't think he would not like another 3-D guy here because it only would help him.

Ndour thinks he is the victim of this power struggle. It is not my idea.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/02/ex-knick-wonders-if-hes-1-3m-victim-of-phil-jackson-firing/

“Basically they needed some space in the salary cap,’’ Ndour said after the Knicks explained the decision. “That’s what they say. It had nothing to do with basketball. Just business.’’

“All I can say is Phil is the main reason I was here with the Knicks,’’ Ndour said when asked if this would’ve happened had Jackson not been canned. “Whether I’d stay with the Knicks or not, I have no idea.

And Randle? I don't know Randle.

btw, maybe we can say Gaines will be gone as well?

Ndour’s biggest fan in the organization was top Jackson adviser Clarence Gaines Jr.

His opinion is no longer important.

I know you like Melo. I understand it. I respect it. But at the end, everything shouldn't have happened. Melo is not the evil man, but he is certainly not innocent. Trying little harder to play within triangle with his new teammates would not cut his head off. Yeah, he won, but at what cost?

It turns out everyone loses. The only winner is Steve "I am always alive" Mills.

Oh, if you want to say there is no power struggle behind it and it is wise to fire Phil 3 days before FA and it is all normal and reasonable. It is fine, I can understand.

Sooner and later, Melo will have a new team and he probably will have a chance to get a ring. I see no reason that you will not be happy. You should be very happy, and have another team to root for.

CrushAlot wrote:

mlby1215 wrote:I don't really think they didn't want to sign big FA. It is just that they couldn't. Not signing anyone may be good for Knicks but bad for Mills because it would look like he is incompetent. He is trying very hard to make a name for himself.

This said, if Knicks wanted to refrain from overspending, they should have resigned Holiday. His contract is cheap and obviously we still could have traded him later for something if we had better young players.

Not signing him could have two meaning. It is just my guessing.

1. Like Ndour, Holiday probably is at the wrong side of power struggle. Probably Phil liked him so he is let go. It sounds crazy and sad, but it fits Knicks.

2. Perhaps they aim for a super FA and need the caps. Maybe George Hill? I don't know. He is 31 years old, right? Then it is quite possible that Knicks wants him. Probably 30mil per year. (I want to die)

Phil is gone and it sounds like Melo will be. I don't think there is a power struggle anymore. I think the Knicks are opening up more cap space either to facilitate a Melo trade or they want to sign someone, Hill?
Ndour a part of a power struggle is a bit funny. The way Randle is playing he maybe a part of a power struggle as well.

My point was that the 15th man getting waived for cap space isn't the sign of a power struggle or a slap in the face to Gaines. Ndour's contract was structured so the Knicks could waive him for cap space or if he didn't produce. He was right, it was business.

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I'm calling BS on this one, knicks are in total rebuild mode, no way hill goes to a team like the knicks. There's a reason we haven't reached out to him... I think our main focus is to move melo everything is on hold till Hayward picks his spot.

Again I don't buy that we are looking for a pg as a stop gap totally media made up . If we're gonna lose let the yoots play.

What are the lakers doing then, REBUILDNG with a good vet

Report: Lakers, George Hill discussing 1-year deal

The Los Angeles Lakers drafted their point guard of the future in Lonzo Ball, yet their point guard for the here and now could come in the form of unrestricted free agent George Hill.

The 31-year-old and his representatives are meeting with Lakers officials in Los Angeles on Monday, with the two sides discussing a one-year deal, league sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

Should a contract be agreed upon, the Lakers are hopeful Hill could be slotted into the starting backcourt alongside Ball, a source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

With so much emphasis being placed on next summer's free-agent class, with the likes of Paul George and LeBron James hitting the market, a one-year deal helps the Lakers a great deal financially, while also providing Ball a veteran mentor to play alongside.

Hill averaged 16.9 points, 4.2 assists, and 3.4 rebounds on 47.7 percent shooting from the field and 40.3 percent from deep in his lone season with the Utah Jazz. He declined his 2017-18 player option to become unrestricted, and with the Jazz recently trading for Ricky Rubio, a return to Salt Lake City is seemingly out of the question for now.

They don't deserve any more or less than any other fan. "Mecca....."
Mecca is long gone. That was 1950's stuff. Back when MSG had the real championship called the NIT and it was great.
Starphuching for decades gets us know where.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

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I'm calling BS on this one, knicks are in total rebuild mode, no way hill goes to a team like the knicks. There's a reason we haven't reached out to him... I think our main focus is to move melo everything is on hold till Hayward picks his spot.

Again I don't buy that we are looking for a pg as a stop gap totally media made up . If we're gonna lose let the yoots play.

What are the lakers doing then, REBUILDNG with a good vet

Report: Lakers, George Hill discussing 1-year deal

The Los Angeles Lakers drafted their point guard of the future in Lonzo Ball, yet their point guard for the here and now could come in the form of unrestricted free agent George Hill.

The 31-year-old and his representatives are meeting with Lakers officials in Los Angeles on Monday, with the two sides discussing a one-year deal, league sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

Should a contract be agreed upon, the Lakers are hopeful Hill could be slotted into the starting backcourt alongside Ball, a source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

With so much emphasis being placed on next summer's free-agent class, with the likes of Paul George and LeBron James hitting the market, a one-year deal helps the Lakers a great deal financially, while also providing Ball a veteran mentor to play alongside.

Hill averaged 16.9 points, 4.2 assists, and 3.4 rebounds on 47.7 percent shooting from the field and 40.3 percent from deep in his lone season with the Utah Jazz. He declined his 2017-18 player option to become unrestricted, and with the Jazz recently trading for Ricky Rubio, a return to Salt Lake City is seemingly out of the question for now.

They dont own their 2018 draft pick. They need to try and win as many games this coming season as possible without screwing up the future.

mlby1215 wrote:One thing I notice is that now NY Media knows every move Knicks are going to do. Phil held everything tight, but now leaks are everywhere.