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Chandler
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6/30/2017  7:39 AM
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:Not advocating or trashing him but it bears noting that Jerry West is advocating for him

Jerry helped build the grizzlies to a good team, then GS. His opinion is worth something

Been following the clips?

They are preparing a very serious run for lebron.

Lebron should join GS. That's the way the league is headed

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6/30/2017  7:39 AM
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.
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6/30/2017  8:05 AM
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.


Yeah, he actually traded away Bennet (and Wiggins) for Love. He was 2nd in exec of the year voting that year. I don't know anything about his philosophy but he can't be more out of touch than Phil. I'd rather have Ujiri though.
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6/30/2017  8:22 AM
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.

You're wrong about the whole thing. LeBron is not connected to CAA he is connected to Klutch mgmt, Rich Paul and I think only JR and Thompson are signed with them.

Also, speaking of CAA, Frank Ntilikina is with them and has the same agent as Melo.
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6/30/2017  8:23 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.


Yeah, he actually traded away Bennet (and Wiggins) for Love. He was 2nd in exec of the year voting that year. I don't know anything about his philosophy but he can't be more out of touch than Phil. I'd rather have Ujiri though.

Ujiri will definitely cost the knicks a pick or 2, while griff perhaps can package a pick for a very solid young player.

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6/30/2017  9:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2017  9:09 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.


Yeah, he actually traded away Bennet (and Wiggins) for Love. He was 2nd in exec of the year voting that year. I don't know anything about his philosophy but he can't be more out of touch than Phil. I'd rather have Ujiri though.

Ujiri will definitely cost the knicks a pick or 2, while griff perhaps can package a pick for a very solid young player.


I've seen different reports about whether Ujiri can just walk. Having the right president is more important than 1 draft pick anyway, and I'm sure any pick would be protected. What do you mean Griffin can package a pick?
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6/30/2017  9:08 AM
Griff could be alright. HE seems mediocre. That's actually ok. We don't need a hero running things. THere are few hero execs our there. We just need a worker with a clue.
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6/30/2017  9:28 AM
In addition, the team is not expected to ask for permission to speak with Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, sources told Shelburne.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19770843/david-griffin-new-york-knicks-candidates-front-office-opening
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6/30/2017  9:34 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
In addition, the team is not expected to ask for permission to speak with Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, sources told Shelburne.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19770843/david-griffin-new-york-knicks-candidates-front-office-opening

Not even talking to him? That's disappointing if true.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
In addition, the team is not expected to ask for permission to speak with Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri, sources told Shelburne.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19770843/david-griffin-new-york-knicks-candidates-front-office-opening

Not even talking to him? That's disappointing if true.
I hope it isn't accurate but the speculation is that the Knicks would have to give up a first round pick to get him from the Raptors.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.


Yeah, he actually traded away Bennet (and Wiggins) for Love. He was 2nd in exec of the year voting that year. I don't know anything about his philosophy but he can't be more out of touch than Phil. I'd rather have Ujiri though.

Ujiri will definitely cost the knicks a pick or 2, while griff perhaps can package a pick for a very solid young player.


I've seen different reports about whether Ujiri can just walk. Having the right president is more important than 1 draft pick anyway, and I'm sure any pick would be protected. What do you mean Griffin can package a pick?

He seems like he has the win now attitude, or maybe that was because labron insisted the upgrade for love. either way, he doesn't seem like the rebuild through the draft type.

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he would have some moveable pieces a little cap, and some picks he could juggle for some real players.

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6/30/2017  9:43 AM
Griffin is being unfairly critized by some. He seemed to be on the verge of a rebuild with Kyrie and Wiggins. Hired Blatt so he had a vision in mind...then Lebron decides to come back so now the plans dramatically change to putting together a championship team...And putting together a team that can play LEBRON BALL aint easy. He did win a championship and deserves credit for that regardless...
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6/30/2017  10:07 AM
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

How can he be most known for something he wasn't even there for?
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As I said in another thread, another ex-Laker (Jerry West) recommending Griffin feels like a lot like Magic recommending Isiah. I trust West's judgement more than Isiah, but it still feels like deja vu.

Knicks have one thing that previous Knicks execs havent had in a long while, a possible franchise player going into his prime. Knicks are always trying to make a big trade for an impact player like KP, and mostly doing a bad job of it. Often resulting in cap hell and retreads.

Whoever gets the job, they will have a choice between gradually building around KP, or the express lane to cap hell. Knicks have their building block, they dont need to go for broke in trade or free agency.

Let KP show what he can do as the man and build around him. I believe Griffin, Ujiri, Presti, all have the ability to do that, its a question of wether or not they will go for the quick fix. Wether or not they will feel the pressure to do so.
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6/30/2017  10:14 AM
Griffin came from the Suns. Was Director Of Player personnel from 01-07. And Senior Vice President of BBall Operations 08-10. So he was apart of the process that built the Suns teams with Nash. Though Colangelo, MDA, then Kerr held more authority.

Article on the Griffin-Gilbert breakup
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/20/15835070/david-griffin-dan-gilbert-history-cavs-gm

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6/30/2017  10:16 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

How can he be most known for something he wasn't even there for?

He was there as he held a front office role with the club. But he wasn't the final say.

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6/30/2017  10:21 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

How can he be most known for something he wasn't even there for?

for the record Griff was with the Cavs then; just not GM

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GustavBahler wrote:As I said in another thread, another ex-Laker (Jerry West) recommending Griffin feels like a lot like Magic recommending Isiah. I trust West's judgement more than Isiah, but it still feels like deja vu.

Knicks have one thing that previous Knicks execs havent had in a long while, a possible franchise player going into his prime. Knicks are always trying to make a big trade for an impact player like KP, and mostly doing a bad job of it. Often resulting in cap hell and retreads.

Whoever gets the job, they will have a choice between gradually building around KP, or the express lane to cap hell. Knicks have their building block, they dont need to go for broke in trade or free agency.

Let KP show what he can do as the man and build around him. I believe Griffin, Ujiri, Presti, all have the ability to do that, its a question of wether or not they will go for the quick fix. Wether or not they will feel the pressure to do so.

c'mon man, seriously. Magic and Isiah were best buds. Magic had no front office experience yet was recommending someone for the front office. totally different.

Jerry West is a winner, and has built two great teams from crap

I know nothing about Griffin, but respect West. Not saying we should hire Griff either but the laker's connection (three times removed at this point) is a non-issue

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6/30/2017  10:26 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sinix wrote:
Chandler wrote:
Sinix wrote:He's most known for drafting Anthony Bennet and the large contracts he's given to lebrons CAA buddies.

Now that I think about it, that's why he might likely get the job. Without Phil, CAA creeps back into power with the Knicks.

Expect some sh-tty contracts for CAA guys going forward. But hey, we'll be liked around the league now right?

Are u sure about Bennet? He wasn't GM then.

Guess I'm wrong about that one, griffin came in half a season later.


Yeah, he actually traded away Bennet (and Wiggins) for Love. He was 2nd in exec of the year voting that year. I don't know anything about his philosophy but he can't be more out of touch than Phil. I'd rather have Ujiri though.

Ujiri will definitely cost the knicks a pick or 2, while griff perhaps can package a pick for a very solid young player.


I've seen different reports about whether Ujiri can just walk. Having the right president is more important than 1 draft pick anyway, and I'm sure any pick would be protected. What do you mean Griffin can package a pick?

He seems like he has the win now attitude, or maybe that was because labron insisted the upgrade for love. either way, he doesn't seem like the rebuild through the draft type.

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he would have some moveable pieces a little cap, and some picks he could juggle for some real players.


Oh I thought you meant getting picks. You want to go back to starphucking?!
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6/30/2017  10:28 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Griffin came from the Suns. Was Director Of Player personnel from 01-07. And Senior Vice President of BBall Operations 08-10. So he was apart of the process that built the Suns teams with Nash. Though Colangelo, MDA, then Kerr held more authority.

Article on the Griffin-Gilbert breakup
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/20/15835070/david-griffin-dan-gilbert-history-cavs-gm

Good point...totally forgot about that. Eventhough he may not have had much power in Pho, at least he was apart of a winning culture. Same in Cleveland; he was apart of a winning/championship culture. He was the GM that won a 'chip in Cleveland, and beat the team that had the best regular season in the history of the league....He has to get some credit for that.

I prefer Presti, but I wouldn't have much problem with Griffin....
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