we need to get him the hell out of here

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:What does everyone say about him as a person? I have not heard one thing about him personally.

His on the court demeanor is all I can judge him by and it tells me he is not smart, selfish and not a leader. IT would be amazing that he could be different off the court.

A friend of mine is life long friends with Jason Kidd. He said Kidd loved playing with Melo and that he is a great guy. We know he is loved by his teammates and that he organizes offseason workouts etc. we know how his dream team teammates and coaches feel about him. We know he is very philanthropic and is supposed to be a great Dad.

Yeah but Melo isn't gonna talk to a guy like J.Kidd the way he'd talk to any other past Knicks players he played with cause Kidd is a legit name in the NBA.

That is why any young player will be suppressed no matter how talented. This was KP's fault probably got all starry eyed and whatever Melo says is the gospel. Lin was an excellent example of a player who didn't fit Melo's criteria as a basketball player passive aggressively suppressed. Amare wasn't kidding folks.

Melo is an isolation player and he will shyt on anyone to get what he wants. This is your leader gets a man who knows about winning fired so he can do his isolation act.

If you feel that way then don't resign that guy. Or don't give him a NTC and trade kicker. 12 million wasn't spent to manage the team like a dumb @ss.

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:What does everyone say about him as a person? I have not heard one thing about him personally.

His on the court demeanor is all I can judge him by and it tells me he is not smart, selfish and not a leader. IT would be amazing that he could be different off the court.

A friend of mine is life long friends with Jason Kidd. He said Kidd loved playing with Melo and that he is a great guy. We know he is loved by his teammates and that he organizes offseason workouts etc. we know how his dream team teammates and coaches feel about him. We know he is very philanthropic and is supposed to be a great Dad.

Yeah but Melo isn't gonna talk to a guy like J.Kidd the way he'd talk to any other past Knicks players he played with cause Kidd is a legit name in the NBA.

That is why any young player will be suppressed no matter how talented. This was KP's fault probably got all starry eyed and whatever Melo says is the gospel. Lin was an excellent example of a player who didn't fit Melo's criteria as a basketball player passive aggressively suppressed. Amare wasn't kidding folks.

Melo is an isolation player and he will shyt on anyone to get what he wants. This is your leader gets a man who knows about winning fired so he can do his isolation act.

If you feel that way then don't resign that guy. Or don't give him a NTC and trade kicker. 12 million wasn't spent to manage the team like a dumb @ss.

If you go back to that fateful day I was one of the few begging the Knicks to let him walk. This was a case of Phil not knowing his job and his smugness getting the best of him. He probably didn't even know Melo's mentality. This was Phils mistake which cost him his job.

The problem still exists and the Knicks need to get him out anyway possible he is the poisoning the well.

Vmart wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:What does everyone say about him as a person? I have not heard one thing about him personally.

His on the court demeanor is all I can judge him by and it tells me he is not smart, selfish and not a leader. IT would be amazing that he could be different off the court.

A friend of mine is life long friends with Jason Kidd. He said Kidd loved playing with Melo and that he is a great guy. We know he is loved by his teammates and that he organizes offseason workouts etc. we know how his dream team teammates and coaches feel about him. We know he is very philanthropic and is supposed to be a great Dad.

Yeah but Melo isn't gonna talk to a guy like J.Kidd the way he'd talk to any other past Knicks players he played with cause Kidd is a legit name in the NBA.

That is why any young player will be suppressed no matter how talented. This was KP's fault probably got all starry eyed and whatever Melo says is the gospel. Lin was an excellent example of a player who didn't fit Melo's criteria as a basketball player passive aggressively suppressed. Amare wasn't kidding folks.

Melo is an isolation player and he will shyt on anyone to get what he wants. This is your leader gets a man who knows about winning fired so he can do his isolation act.

If you feel that way then don't resign that guy. Or don't give him a NTC and trade kicker. 12 million wasn't spent to manage the team like a dumb @ss.

If you go back to that fateful day I was one of the few begging the Knicks to let him walk. This was a case of Phil not knowing his job and his smugness getting the best of him. He probably didn't even know Melo's mentality. This was Phils mistake which cost him his job.

The problem still exists and the Knicks need to get him out anyway possible he is the poisoning the well.

Phil knew...Remember he coached Michael Graham...

yellowboy90 wrote:The problem is that it's against what everyone says Melo is as a person.

Also, I don't trust Rosen or Berman. Their credibility is suspect

Also, if Melo did that Janis would have probably destroyed Melo and KPs relationship.

Give how the leader of the nation attacks the press, and that some reporters have been taken to task for their stories or sued, as a reporter you don't usually put out lies which might disparage a prominent figure.

If folks want to take this as "fake news," fine, but I'm going on the assumption that there is truth in the story until there is push-back from Anthony or his people with an alternative story.

Doubt if KP would admit to the story if asked, by the way.

We all knew he was trying to sabotage Phil and triangle but Melo is very passive aggressive and sneaky about so he doesn't get blow back. Unfortunately for Melo we now live in the internet age where we can dissect everything.

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:What does everyone say about him as a person? I have not heard one thing about him personally.

His on the court demeanor is all I can judge him by and it tells me he is not smart, selfish and not a leader. IT would be amazing that he could be different off the court.

A friend of mine is life long friends with Jason Kidd. He said Kidd loved playing with Melo and that he is a great guy. We know he is loved by his teammates and that he organizes offseason workouts etc. we know how his dream team teammates and coaches feel about him. We know he is very philanthropic and is supposed to be a great Dad.

Yeah but Melo isn't gonna talk to a guy like J.Kidd the way he'd talk to any other past Knicks players he played with cause Kidd is a legit name in the NBA.

We also know that the two best teams Melo was ever on had Billups and Kidd on them, two older PGs with leadership ability and championship rings.

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:What does everyone say about him as a person? I have not heard one thing about him personally.

His on the court demeanor is all I can judge him by and it tells me he is not smart, selfish and not a leader. IT would be amazing that he could be different off the court.

A friend of mine is life long friends with Jason Kidd. He said Kidd loved playing with Melo and that he is a great guy. We know he is loved by his teammates and that he organizes offseason workouts etc. we know how his dream team teammates and coaches feel about him. We know he is very philanthropic and is supposed to be a great Dad.

Yeah but Melo isn't gonna talk to a guy like J.Kidd the way he'd talk to any other past Knicks players he played with cause Kidd is a legit name in the NBA.

That is why any young player will be suppressed no matter how talented. This was KP's fault probably got all starry eyed and whatever Melo says is the gospel. Lin was an excellent example of a player who didn't fit Melo's criteria as a basketball player passive aggressively suppressed. Amare wasn't kidding folks.

Melo is an isolation player and he will shyt on anyone to get what he wants. This is your leader gets a man who knows about winning fired so he can do his isolation act.

If you feel that way then don't resign that guy. Or don't give him a NTC and trade kicker. 12 million wasn't spent to manage the team like a dumb @ss.

I would have used Anthony as an asset for picks, players, etc., but Phil clearly felt he could challenge and change Anthony...which we know understand he could not do.

I would love to see if Dolan played a role in Melo's terrible contract- after all, he had been the guy who pushed for him, and at that time, the Knicks had NO other player who had fan support and a brand like Melo.

I tend to think that Anthony's people pushed Dolan to push Phil. No proof, just a hunch.

WaltLongmire wrote:http://nypost.com/2017/06/29/carmelo-anthony-not-off-trade-block-despite-phil-jacksons-exit/

In the second half of today's Berman article is info which seems to confirm and build on some things Rosen wrote about the Jackson, Anthony, KP melodrama.

I'm writing on the assumption that this story is true, and not simply someone like Rambis putting out disinformation to make Jackson look better.

If this is true, we get to learn what kind of leader Anthony really is/was, and why having him on the team will not allow KP to assert himself as a team leader.

Totally unacceptable to shut down and intimidate a young player expressing his mind. If you want to have competing beliefs and honest discussion over the Triangle, fine...but for Anthony to use his influence over KP to in essence stifle him is not good.

Though I never did join the Triangle cult, I always appreciated the ideas it was based on because I thought they represented the right way to play the game.

Have to figure then that Anthony might have influenced someone like Rose to denigrate or diminish the Triangle at times.

Not hard to believe that Melo would have done something like this to MDA, by the way.

Not sure that Hornacek or any future head coach should have to tailor an offense to accommodate the whims and wishes of Anthony at this point, and it will be interesting to see how Melo fits into any future system we play.

“Phil thought Carmelo was trying to sabotage him,’’ an NBA source said.

Anthony, who is the only Knick who has been a part of the four straight teams that have missed the playoffs, was considered disruptive in the locker room. On March 1, when the Knicks were last in Orlando finishing out the string against the Magic, Porzingis voiced his support of Jackson’s triangle offense.

“We’re starting to learn it now the way we should and we should have been playing from the beginning of the season,” Porzingis said then. “So we’re a little behind. Hopefully, I don’t know when, we can start using it properly and making some impact playing it. I like the triangle. My whole first season, we played nothing but the triangle so I know it pretty well.’’

According to an NBA source, Anthony was furious to read Porzingis’ positive sentiments on an offense he disdains.

“Melo really chewed him out, lit into him,’’ the source said.

There were few positive comments regarding the triangle afterward from Porzingis, who proceeded to blow off his exit meeting in protest of the chaotic state of the Jackson-run franchise. Jackson admitted at his mid-April press conference the triangle was “met by resistance from the top’’ and “rebelliousness.’’

Charley Rosen, Jackson’s longtime confidant, wrote in a column Wednesday that Anthony’s “private complaining’’ led Porzingis to “become disrespectful to several members of the coaching staff.’’

In the end, the rebels won out...

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!! Berman is an expert. Undeniably one of the biggest authorities. If he says its SO then its SO. No one can deny his knowledge on the matter. He is the voice of wisdom when it comes to this subject. He has done the most research. The biggest resume with direct subject experience!!

SO IF HE SAYS THAT JELLY DONUTS ARE BETTER THAN OREO COOKIES......I BELIEVE HIM!!

However, Anyone that quotes this fat bastard regarding Badketball, loses all credibility.

WaltLongmire wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:The problem is that it's against what everyone says Melo is as a person.

Also, I don't trust Rosen or Berman. Their credibility is suspect

Also, if Melo did that Janis would have probably destroyed Melo and KPs relationship.

I tried to qualify it, and indicated there might be pro-Phil people pushing it...but it was in the article.

Give how the leader of the nation attacks the press, and that some reporters have been taken to task for their stories or sued, as a reporter you don't usually put out lies which might disparage a prominent figure.

If folks want to take this as "fake news," fine, but I'm going on the assumption that there is truth in the story until there is push-back from Anthony or his people with an alternative story.

Doubt if KP would admit to the story if asked, by the way.

this is just a redux of when MDA wanted Melo to sacrifice his game and play pf

Do people really think Melo was pro-triangle, or doubt that he a mutineer?