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anrst
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6/28/2017  11:20 AM
i still like the pick
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6/28/2017  11:24 AM
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CrushAlot wrote:I don't think so. I think Smith or Monk would have been the pick. I liked the pick of Frank because I thought it was a commitment to rebuild. Smith might be the second or third best players in the draft. He has a grat chance of winning the Roy next year.

Agreed...if not for the injury in high school, Smith is a top 3 pick...IMO, Frank was a stretch at 8...


Can't really blame the injury. He still showed top flight athleticism. In fact, he was still probably the best athlete in the draft. It had everything to do with his influence on the team and their ability to win. To be fair, their coach also sucked. Perhaps things might hav been dif't if he went to Kentucky.
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6/28/2017  11:35 AM
I think Monk then trade for Rubio. Two guys with scoring ability like Monk and KP with a pass first PG would have been special. Dont act like Rubio aint 6"4 that can play def
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6/28/2017  11:39 AM
This is very bad news for all the recent picks and youngsters.

No matter who Dolan chooses to replace Phil with, the message will be win now with starphuck vets. Frankie will never see the floor.

What is most distateful about all this is that Dolan waited until after Phil's team did the draft work (as if Dolan and company believe they're rebuilding) and fire Phil just before the trading season.

The Knicks have worn me out.
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6/28/2017  12:45 PM
This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.
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6/28/2017  12:56 PM
GustavBahler wrote:This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.

Advanced systems also lead to greater rewards when done right. Simplifying the system and aqureing players who can only play in simplified systems make them easier to defend when the pressure adds up. Then you are soley relying on that players talent. Which usually leads to other players standing around watching one player trying to be Jordan. When Jordan and LeBron are very rare rare players.

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6/28/2017  1:01 PM
I would have taken him...but I'm biased because I probably would have taken him at #7 unless Isaac or Fox had been available.

Remember...very young kid with developing body. We just don't know what position he will ultimately play. He could be a PG or SG, who knows.

I do know that he has a lot of ability...enough so that I believe he will turn out fine.

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6/28/2017  1:05 PM
i love how everyone is dennis smith jr's biggest fan now. i watched that kid a few times this year during the college bball season. something about him rubbed me the wrong way, seemed like a very selfish player. im glad we passed on him.
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newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.

Advanced systems also lead to greater rewards when done right. Simplifying the system and aqureing players who can only play in simplified systems make them easier to defend when the pressure adds up. Then you are soley relying on that players talent. Which usually leads to other players standing around watching one player trying to be Jordan. When Jordan and LeBron are very rare rare players.

How did that thinking work out for the Knicks?
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6/28/2017  1:06 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.

Advanced systems also lead to greater rewards when done right. Simplifying the system and aqureing players who can only play in simplified systems make them easier to defend when the pressure adds up. Then you are soley relying on that players talent. Which usually leads to other players standing around watching one player trying to be Jordan. When Jordan and LeBron are very rare rare players.

How did that thinking work out for the Knicks?

So the Knicks are the only example?

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6/28/2017  1:07 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.

Advanced systems also lead to greater rewards when done right. Simplifying the system and aqureing players who can only play in simplified systems make them easier to defend when the pressure adds up. Then you are soley relying on that players talent. Which usually leads to other players standing around watching one player trying to be Jordan. When Jordan and LeBron are very rare rare players.

How did that thinking work out for the Knicks?

So the Knicks are the only example?

The only example that matters.
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6/28/2017  1:37 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:This might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Frank, and the Knicks. Ntilikina was a Phil pick. There was a lot of pressure on him at 8 to deliver. To figure out the Triangle sooner rather than later. Frank doesn't have to deal with that anymore. Looks like the Knicks are going after a free agent to run the offense. Frank wont have a very difficult system to learn while adjusting to the speed of the NBA. This could turn out well.

Advanced systems also lead to greater rewards when done right. Simplifying the system and aqureing players who can only play in simplified systems make them easier to defend when the pressure adds up. Then you are soley relying on that players talent. Which usually leads to other players standing around watching one player trying to be Jordan. When Jordan and LeBron are very rare rare players.

How did that thinking work out for the Knicks?

So the Knicks are the only example?

The only example that matters.

Well if we are going to go by the Knicks as the example. I think Phil messed up more by relyimg on the wrong players to execute his principals over the principals being wrong. Kind of like how MDA had the wrong players to execute his vision as well even with his simplified approach.

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