EnySpree wrote:What's frustrating to me is that everybody is so quick to just make these jokes and how Jackson is senile and stupid and all this kind of nonsense. It's like embarrassing. Not because we're losing. It's embarrassing because everyone just automatically just makes jokes it's all over ESPN is all over NBA TV is all in the streets everywhere I'm like sick of it. Phil Jackson came over three years ago it's not like he came over 15 years ago. He came over three years ago. It's going to take awhile to to rebuild. In the beginning he was trying to tank and win now. We got KP. We then tried to win now for 2 seasons and still rebuild it didn't work. So it's like you know what I'm so sick of people It's unbelievable. It steals the Joy from being a fan of a team. It's not all about who you can get and sign. Nobody wants to play here and novody wants to play with Melo. Phil Jackson learned that the Hard way and at the expense of his reputation. Sucks....

Anyway I love where we are and I look forward to this season and the next off season sand draft. We're 2 seasons away.

I have to turn off the radio and change the channel when ESPN is doing any coverage of the Knicks.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

I think you are right about thinking Melo could change. He was a 12 or 13 year vet at that point and he was he was But I disagree that he tried to put a playoff team around Melo. Maybe he tried but he missed badly with the guys he went out and got. This past year the team was lacking talent. KP's first year, the roster was much less clumsy and had a shot but Melo got hurt in the Celtic game, Fish got fired, and Rambis took over. Things just fell apart.

Everyone, and i mean everyone thought the team he put together would be a playoff team last year, even all the hater new york media people thought he put together a good enough team to make the playoffs. So if all these new york media people and fans that think they know so much about basketball and putting teams together thought that team he put together was gonna be good then i guess they're/we're as dumb as Phil is.

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

I think you are right about thinking Melo could change. He was a 12 or 13 year vet at that point and he was he was But I disagree that he tried to put a playoff team around Melo. Maybe he tried but he missed badly with the guys he went out and got. This past year the team was lacking talent. KP's first year, the roster was much less clumsy and had a shot but Melo got hurt in the Celtic game, Fish got fired, and Rambis took over. Things just fell apart.

Everyone, and i mean everyone thought the team he put together would be a playoff team last year, even all the hater new york media people thought he put together a good enough team to make the playoffs. So if all these new york media people and fans that think they know so much about basketball and putting teams together thought that team he put together was gonna be good then i guess they're/we're as dumb as Phil is.

"...If healthy", you left out one important piece of information there. Thats why people were largely against bringing in Noah and Rose. The risk of exactly what happened, happening. No one was dumb who saw that coming.

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

I think you are right about thinking Melo could change. He was a 12 or 13 year vet at that point and he was he was But I disagree that he tried to put a playoff team around Melo. Maybe he tried but he missed badly with the guys he went out and got. This past year the team was lacking talent. KP's first year, the roster was much less clumsy and had a shot but Melo got hurt in the Celtic game, Fish got fired, and Rambis took over. Things just fell apart.

Everyone, and i mean everyone thought the team he put together would be a playoff team last year, even all the hater new york media people thought he put together a good enough team to make the playoffs. So if all these new york media people and fans that think they know so much about basketball and putting teams together thought that team he put together was gonna be good then i guess they're/we're as dumb as Phil is.

"...If healthy", you left out one important piece of information there. Thats why people were largely against bringing in Noah and Rose. The risk of exactly what happened, happening. No one was dumb who saw that coming.

Rose pretty much made it through the full season so you can't use him but of course Noah you can use but nobody saw that coming cause there's no way for that to be done. You and others assumed it could happen and it did.

I bet you even the people that thought they could get injured still thought this team would make the playoffs which was my whole point.

stanleybostitch wrote:Phil talking about taking Frank and why he likes Euro players...I'm with him on his implied criticism of college ball, where too often more emphasis is on being a showman than a team player.

“Sometimes it’s the ability for players to grow up into a system of play that they adapt to as they’re growing up as young players, and fitting into that style,” Jackson said. “A lot of the times in our college ball here, without making a lot of claims, a lot of it is about our college ball adapting to who the players are and our college game becomes more a style of what you can do offensively.

“Just giving a lot of room to players just to play whatever one-on-one or whatever ability they have, whereas the European players are schooled into a system and how to fit into it.”

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

See your still on here 24/7 trying to rid the Knicks of the guy who shipped out your fellow girlfriend. Let me ask you something...how long have you been a Knick fan/ Melo hater. My guess is since 2011. Will you now be leaving the UK site for the Nets forum since his ass will be shipped out now that they got a real PG in Russell? Or is that Melo's fault as well.

Phil and the Triangle will live another 2 years before going into permanent retirement. The Knicks will be back to square one when he leaves. KP will run far away. That's if Phil doesn't devalue him to a point he gives him away for scraps. Like everyone else he has had. But at least we will have Noah to build around. Lmao.

HofstraBBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

See your still on here 24/7 trying to rid the Knicks of the guy who shipped out your fellow girlfriend. Let me ask you something...how long have you been a Knick fan/ Melo hater. My guess is since 2011. Will you now be leaving the UK site for the Nets forum since his ass will be shipped out now that they got a real PG in Russell? Or is that Melo's fault as well.

Phil and the Triangle will live another 2 years before going into permanent retirement. The Knicks will be back to square one when he leaves. KP will run far away. That's if Phil doesn't devalue him to a point he gives him away for scraps. Like everyone else he has had. But at least we will have Noah to build around. Lmao.

I totally disagree about the Triangle going into retirement. It's CHANGING but not going into retirement! If anything Phil is locking the franchise into the Triangle more like a Cement foundation. His roster moves are moving the team into this direction with players who are Triangle type players rather than AAU types.

The shift of the team's fortunes has already started. In case you and other Phil haters haven't noticed the team is adding talent and getting younger!!! These players are USED to SYSTEM basketball and aren't egomaniacs!!! So there's less chance Phil will have to get into it with these players!!!

HofstraBBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

See your still on here 24/7 trying to rid the Knicks of the guy who shipped out your fellow girlfriend. Let me ask you something...how long have you been a Knick fan/ Melo hater. My guess is since 2011. Will you now be leaving the UK site for the Nets forum since his ass will be shipped out now that they got a real PG in Russell? Or is that Melo's fault as well.

Phil and the Triangle will live another 2 years before going into permanent retirement. The Knicks will be back to square one when he leaves. KP will run far away. That's if Phil doesn't devalue him to a point he gives him away for scraps. Like everyone else he has had. But at least we will have Noah to build around. Lmao.

The return of the prodigal dumbass. Save your racist crap for someone who gives a ****.

HofstraBBall wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

I think you are right about thinking Melo could change. He was a 12 or 13 year vet at that point and he was he was But I disagree that he tried to put a playoff team around Melo. Maybe he tried but he missed badly with the guys he went out and got. This past year the team was lacking talent. KP's first year, the roster was much less clumsy and had a shot but Melo got hurt in the Celtic game, Fish got fired, and Rambis took over. Things just fell apart.

Everyone, and i mean everyone thought the team he put together would be a playoff team last year, even all the hater new york media people thought he put together a good enough team to make the playoffs. So if all these new york media people and fans that think they know so much about basketball and putting teams together thought that team he put together was gonna be good then i guess they're/we're as dumb as Phil is.

"...If healthy", you left out one important piece of information there. Thats why people were largely against bringing in Noah and Rose. The risk of exactly what happened, happening. No one was dumb who saw that coming.

THIS!

dacash wrote:i think it was jay bilas who asked during the broadcast , why talk about the knicks they're so irrelevant. lol horrible coverage

meloshouldgo wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Phil's biggest issue was thinking he could make Melo change. Trying to put a playoff team around this career loser to see whether it would work was a bad plan. He should have let Melo go after his contract ran out. The stupid people who care more about Melo than they care about the Knicks would kill him no matter what. At the end of the day he has wasted 3 years tryinng to win Melo over. And the Knicks will pay the price for that. Then the Noah contract was a really dumb move as well. But getting rid of Shump and JR, trading for Rolo were all moves I can support.

Trading Rolo for Rose was not a good move but it was necessary to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Incredible Sulk couldn't even take a team with two 18 point scorers one of which happens to be a top 5 rim protector, a 3 and D guy and an up and coming center to the playoffs in the Leastern conference. But yeah he is a "multiple time allstar and scoring champion" and that's what we need to focus on, because the roster is never good enough for the UltimateDiva.

If we just cut this loser from the team that would still be 5 years too late.

See your still on here 24/7 trying to rid the Knicks of the guy who shipped out your fellow girlfriend. Let me ask you something...how long have you been a Knick fan/ Melo hater. My guess is since 2011. Will you now be leaving the UK site for the Nets forum since his ass will be shipped out now that they got a real PG in Russell? Or is that Melo's fault as well.

Phil and the Triangle will live another 2 years before going into permanent retirement. The Knicks will be back to square one when he leaves. KP will run far away. That's if Phil doesn't devalue him to a point he gives him away for scraps. Like everyone else he has had. But at least we will have Noah to build around. Lmao.

The return of the prodigal dumbass. Save your racist crap for someone who gives a ****.

But to the point what are you going to do when Melo finally leaves?