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Knickoftime
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6/22/2017  1:51 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

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6/22/2017  1:55 PM
Vmart wrote:
nixluva wrote:Hey I'm only in my 50's and I'm already finding I take naps

I'm 47 and taking nap every chance I get. Man put on Baseball game I don't even make it past an inning. Discovery channel boom lights out.


Are you getting paid 60 Million.

Phil smoked some that Cali Bud...lights out

Only Time he wakes up is to address the media about melo and KP

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6/22/2017  2:01 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be. The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

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6/22/2017  2:05 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
nixluva wrote:Hey I'm only in my 50's and I'm already finding I take naps

I'm 47 and taking nap every chance I get. Man put on Baseball game I don't even make it past an inning. Discovery channel boom lights out.


Are you getting paid 60 Million.

Phil smoked some that Cali Bud...lights out

Only Time he wakes up is to address the media about melo and KP

Age don't know money. Boring players are boring player. I have taken a nap on my lunch break at work.

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6/22/2017  2:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2017  2:13 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.

The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)

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6/22/2017  2:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2017  2:17 PM
Vmart wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
nixluva wrote:Hey I'm only in my 50's and I'm already finding I take naps

I'm 47 and taking nap every chance I get. Man put on Baseball game I don't even make it past an inning. Discovery channel boom lights out.


Are you getting paid 60 Million.

Phil smoked some that Cali Bud...lights out

Only Time he wakes up is to address the media about melo and KP

Age don't know money. Boring players are boring player. I have taken a nap on my lunch break at work.

I take naps religiously dude, since I was in my 20's and I just turned 40.

I heard someone tried to wake him up, and he jumped up and blurted out MELO..NO TRADE CLAUSE, NO TRADE CLAUSE..oh god where am I...LMAO

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6/22/2017  2:17 PM
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6/22/2017  2:30 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.



The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.

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6/22/2017  2:34 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
nixluva wrote:Hey I'm only in my 50's and I'm already finding I take naps

I'm 47 and taking nap every chance I get. Man put on Baseball game I don't even make it past an inning. Discovery channel boom lights out.


Are you getting paid 60 Million.

Phil smoked some that Cali Bud...lights out

Only Time he wakes up is to address the media about melo and KP

Age don't know money. Boring players are boring player. I have taken a nap on my lunch break at work.

I take naps religiously dude, since I was in my 20's and I just turned 40.

I heard someone tried to wake him up, and he jumped up and blurted out MELO..NO TRADE CLAUSE, NO TRADE CLAUSE..oh god where am I...LMAO

IMO this is just such an unnecessary story. I mean come on. You ever see your Grandpa slip into a nap after sitting in a chair for a few minutes? Man that jive happens QUICK. I almost fell out of a chair watching my Grandson and 5 Episodes of Bubble Guppies! LOL.

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6/22/2017  2:35 PM
I'm of reading these garbage reports... nobody gets ripped more than the Knicks people hate Phil did much thet are disrespecting him on astronomical levels he has 11 championships.... deal withit
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6/22/2017  2:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2017  2:41 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.



The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Of course is it. WHY it isn't working is very complicated.

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.


Okay.

He hasn't been traded.

Nor is there a condition of any trade on the table.

I LOVE Porzingis, but I could be swayed depending on the return.

To suggest NO return could help seems ignorant, by literal definition.

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6/22/2017  2:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/22/2017  2:46 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.

The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Of course is it. WHY it isn't working is very complicated.

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.

Okay.

He hasn't been traded.

Nor is there a condition of any trade on the table.

I LOVE Porzingis, but I could be swayed depending on the return.

To suggest NO return could help seems ignorant, by literal definition.

Will you please cut this BS about not expressing your opinion until its official. Its a moronic thing to say in a sports forum. Thats what posters spend the most time doing here, talking about things that havent happened yet, could happen, and might not happen. This place would be dead if we Didn't.

Im against trading Porzingis now because he has only been here two years, he is our best draft pick since Mark Jackson, and its for the wrong reasons. If anyone should be shipped out its Phil Jackson.

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6/22/2017  2:52 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.

The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Of course is it. WHY it isn't working is very complicated.

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.

Okay.

He hasn't been traded.

Nor is there a condition of any trade on the table.

I LOVE Porzingis, but I could be swayed depending on the return.

To suggest NO return could help seems ignorant, by literal definition.

Will you please cut this BS about not expressing your opinion until its official. Its a moronic thing to say in a sports forum. Thats what posters spend the most time doing here, talking about things that havent happened yet, could happen, and might not happen. This place would be dead if we Didn't.

But that's my whole point.

You're getting upset about scenarios you're making up ... why?

Because you want to have something to talk and be upset about.

So we agree. People are manufacturing drama because they like that as much if not more than actual basketball.

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6/22/2017  3:16 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.

The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Of course is it. WHY it isn't working is very complicated.

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.

Okay.

He hasn't been traded.

Nor is there a condition of any trade on the table.

I LOVE Porzingis, but I could be swayed depending on the return.

To suggest NO return could help seems ignorant, by literal definition.

Will you please cut this BS about not expressing your opinion until its official. Its a moronic thing to say in a sports forum. Thats what posters spend the most time doing here, talking about things that havent happened yet, could happen, and might not happen. This place would be dead if we Didn't.

But that's my whole point.

You're getting upset about scenarios you're making up ... why?

Because you want to have something to talk and be upset about.

So we agree. People are manufacturing drama because they like that as much if not more than actual basketball.

Im upset with the state of the team, its cumulative.

A lot of drama from you about my expressing my opinion like everyone else here on this board about the future, and how we want, or dont want things to turn out.

I will of course not read a single comment from you about any article, rumour, story, until its in the past, and has been confirmed by multiple sources. You also of course wont be sharing your opinion about a player you want or dont want drafted, why should you? They havent been drafted yet, and you arent doing the drafting.

I can play this game too, but its boring and Im done with your drama over my opinions.

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6/22/2017  3:16 PM
ok he was sleeping, was hornacek, mills and gaines also sleeping? i mean gaines is the draft guru right?
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6/22/2017  3:29 PM
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I just spit out my drink laughing. No worries. Phil has got this.

Do you ever fact check or just lap up whats ever is thrown your way?

This isn't my thread. I just responded. What's up? Last night you said I made things up. Now you are saying I don't fact check. I don't make things up. But if there is something I made up post or else drop it.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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6/22/2017  4:07 PM
Doesn't matter. Phil is old AF. He won't be drafting, anyway. Gaines will.
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6/22/2017  4:22 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Said he couldnt stay awake. Stephen A Smith said while Magic was at the combine for days, Phil was there for a couple of hours. Let the excuses begin.....

I don't have any excuse for not giving a ****.

What's your excuse for loving this drama so much?

its almost as warm as a good hug

That said, it's curious in a forum in which people become passionately convinced what college freshman will have the best NBA career based on YT videos, an argument is being advanced that its useful for the guy with the #2 pick to be at the combine for days.

Its even more curious that you seem to be ok with this style of mgmt. considering Phil's record.

When did I say I was?

When you say that sleeping though a workout is no big deal, that isn't what I would call criticism of his mgmt style.

Phi Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued. To glom on a twice removed report of a guy maybe nods off/maybe closes while a guy is maybe doing drills is just desperation that distracts from more important, more legitimate, more relevant questions.

Yes, maybe nodding off during a workout of an undisclosed player isn't a big deal.

That you immediately equated that to a wholesale endorsement of Jackson's tenure speaks for itself.

Not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be.

I didn't make it out at all.

The team has no playoff appearances, no playoff victories. The team has a even worse record since Phil took over, with no end in sight. Sleeping during a player's workout intentionally or not is a sign of disrespect, and a sign that Phil would be better off retiring. Knicks already have an abysmal reputation, this doesn't help. Neither does possibly trading KP.

"Possibly" has no meaning.

And again, your own words illustrate it's the drama you're attracted to.

You describe a situation as "abysmal" yet somehow think this possibility of it occurring matters.

So 'very slightly less abysmal' is what you're hoping for here? :-)


Talk about unnecessary drama. So is it or isnt it complicated?

Of course is it. WHY it isn't working is very complicated.

Phil Jackson's performance as the Knicks president is a complicated, nuance issued.

The situation is abysmal because of Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson alone. Trading Porzingis wont help.

Okay.

He hasn't been traded.

Nor is there a condition of any trade on the table.

I LOVE Porzingis, but I could be swayed depending on the return.

To suggest NO return could help seems ignorant, by literal definition.

Will you please cut this BS about not expressing your opinion until its official. Its a moronic thing to say in a sports forum. Thats what posters spend the most time doing here, talking about things that havent happened yet, could happen, and might not happen. This place would be dead if we Didn't.

But that's my whole point.

You're getting upset about scenarios you're making up ... why?

Because you want to have something to talk and be upset about.

So we agree. People are manufacturing drama because they like that as much if not more than actual basketball.

Im upset with the state of the team, its cumulative.

A lot of drama from you about my expressing my opinion like everyone else here on this board about the future, and how we want, or dont want things to turn out.

I will of course not read a single comment from you about any article, rumour, story, until its in the past, and has been confirmed by multiple sources. You also of course wont be sharing your opinion about a player you want or dont want drafted, why should you? They havent been drafted yet, and you arent doing the drafting.

I can play this game too, but its boring and Im done with your drama over my opinions.

Except what you choose to make a thread about was some second hand mention that Jackson appeared to have his eyes closed during one players workout.

Not about a player or a trade.

Again, we agree.

Jay Williams: Top 15 player said Phil was nodding off during his workout

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