newyorker4ever wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Can't see Cavs moving Love for Melo. Melo isn't going to give you the rebounding that Love does.

Actually Melo could bring the rebounding that Love brings. If he was on the Cavs playing mostly at the 4 position and Lebron told him that that's what he needed from him he could average double digit rebounds. Players change their games for the better of the team when they get on a team with Lebron.

GustavBahler wrote:Love is no slouch, but I dont see him working out in NY. Utah would be a good fit for him.

I would hope if we did do a Melo for Love trade that we would quickly turn around and send Love elsewhere for whatever draft picks and young players we could get.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Can't see Cavs moving Love for Melo. Melo isn't going to give you the rebounding that Love does.

Actually Melo could bring the rebounding that Love brings. If he was on the Cavs playing mostly at the 4 position and Lebron told him that that's what he needed from him he could average double digit rebounds. Players change their games for the better of the team when they get on a team with Lebron.

Melo double digit rebounds?! I can't see that. He's going to double his rebounding because LeBron told him to?

He's gonna average 10 boards a game because he's playing on a team that's all about team basketball and will be playing more PF. Like i said, playing with Lebron makes players better team players and if Lebron tells him to focus on rebounding then i absolutely think Melo could average 10 boards a game. No doubt in my mind.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Can't see Cavs moving Love for Melo. Melo isn't going to give you the rebounding that Love does.

Actually Melo could bring the rebounding that Love brings. If he was on the Cavs playing mostly at the 4 position and Lebron told him that that's what he needed from him he could average double digit rebounds. Players change their games for the better of the team when they get on a team with Lebron.

Melo double digit rebounds?! I can't see that. He's going to double his rebounding because LeBron told him to?

He's gonna average 10 boards a game because he's playing on a team that's all about team basketball and will be playing more PF. Like i said, playing with Lebron makes players better team players and if Lebron tells him to focus on rebounding then i absolutely think Melo could average 10 boards a game. No doubt in my mind.

I could see Melo's fg% going way up. What players had massive rebound increases when playing with LeBron?

I can see a percentage point increase 44% not bad for Melo. He certainly won't put them over the top.

Cleveland will likely try to do what Golden State did, keep their top 3 stars together and add a 4th star like Melo. That's what GST did with Durant, they kept Klay/Green/Thompson added Durant.

I think CLE keeps Lebron/Irving/Love and looks to add the best star they can.

nyknickzingis wrote:I can't see the Cavs thinking this makes them much better.
Melo and Love are on par with each other right now, but Love is younger having already won a ring.

Cleveland will likely try to do what Golden State did, keep their top 3 stars together and add a 4th star like Melo. That's what GST did with Durant, they kept Klay/Green/Thompson added Durant.

I think CLE keeps Lebron/Irving/Love and looks to add the best star they can.

I could see them eventually be willing to deal Tristan, future draft pick, in a deal for Melo,
Perhaps, this is a long shot, but maybe they would be willing to do a huge deal as follows.

Cleveland trades - Tristan, Frye, Shump, Felder.
New York trades - Melo, Noah

Cavs: Love/James/Melo/Smith/Irving starting 5 with Noah/Jefferson/free agents taking veteran min deals in their rotation. Noah would be useful in 10-15 minute bursts for a contender. Cavs will need to play smaller, more offense to beat Golden State next year. So I can see them go with Love/James/Melo/Smith/Irving lineup against them.

newyorknewyork wrote:Cavs need to move on from Tristan Thompson as well. He isn't a threat to score other then put backs and dunks. And he isn't dominant in the areas he does well in order to make up for it.

They definitely need more consistency and more of an offensive threat out of the 5 spot. If KG had signed with them I think they could've won. Since that didn't happen I don't know who is out there that can make them better than Golden State.

nyknickzingis wrote:On our side, we keep Tristan, since he's a good asset and Felder. We re-direct Frye and Shump to Portland for their first round pick and Evan Turner.
We draft Justin Jackson with Portland's pick, Ntilikina at 8.

Rotation:
Thompson/Willy
Porzingis/Thomas
Jackson/Turner
Lee/Holiday
Ntilikina/Baker
Depth/rest of roster:
O'Quinn
Kuzminskas
Sasha
Felder
Randle
+second round picks/other D-League/undrafted guys.

I think that can work for us. The Evan Turner contract is taken on because Portland won't part with the pick unless they get some cap relief, and Phil is high on Turner from what I recall. Turner is a two-way player. The rotation is going to struggle to score more than 105 a game, but they will defend way better than last year's team.

that's too much heavy lifting for phil. he'd have to work too hard to understand these moving parts.