EnySpree wrote:I thought Phil was all the way realistic... fans were crying that he wasn't more transparent. He puts it all out there and fans are killing him for that.

If Melo wants to play hardball and not waive his no trade clause, then the Knicks should Marbury his ass. Bench him and make him sit out until he lifts his no trade clause. The team comes before Melo. We don't bow down to no single player I dont care who it is. We are building with youth and that's it. If he starts an internal rif... then we send him home. We don't waive him. Treat him like the 15th man. We need to make a stand.... That's if Melo wants to play this game

They've been playing that game all year- Phil speaks, blast him, Phil doesn't speak, blast him for not speaking, Phil speaks, blast him for speaking- rinse and repeat.

I would not be averse to the Knicks making a run at a decent free agent PG (Holiday, Hill or Teague, though I disliked Teague in the opening Cle vs Indy playoff game), drafting a stud out of college, and going into another season with Melo in the lineup.

Any way you cut it, no team has ever benefited from losing its top scorer, especially if he scores over 20 points per game.

CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.

What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's

CrushAlot wrote:

wargames wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.

What happens when Hornecek starts giving him DNP's

not sure. Managements anti Melo stance and pro triangle stance certainly isn't going well.

Its going very well.
More drama, more attention, more press, more entertainment, more $$$.
They have to find a way to make money on declining losing Melo and they sure did found the way.
NY fans are great, they are a huge help for Dolan to biff up his pockets without having any good product.
Genius!!!

CrushAlot wrote:Woj reporting that so far Jax's public display has Anthony wanting to dig in and outlast Phil.

If only he put that level of determination into playing defense. He's beyond pathetic

HofstraBBall wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Melo is done in NY.
He already gave his list to the Knicks before the deadline.
Don't believe what these guys say infront of the camera.

The Knicks know he'll accept a trade to Clippers/Cavs maybe another team. They will only negotiate with those teams. 3 way trade is very possible.

KP is also done with NY. You will see.

Isn't this a bit over the top and premature? KP may be upset but "done with NY"? I think that's a bit too much. KP and Phil will talk and things will calm down.

smackeddog wrote:

wargames wrote:So Melo wrote #staymelo on his instagram reply to Phil Jackson.

Basically I wanted to ask everyone's opinion of what happens if Melo refuses to waive the NTC? Do they bench him, cut him, severely limit his minutes. Like what are the options if he decides he doesn't care being on a rebuild team to end his career?

It depends, if it made Dolan fire Phil, then disaster- we're stuck with declining Melo for the next 2 years, hogging the ball, not playing defense, taking all the last game shots, teaching KP how to be more like him. Honestly, the steps back KP has made this season have all been about him playing more like Melo- no defense, jacking up bad shots, complaining about management etc Melo is mentoring him to be the second coming of him.

The new GM would likely reverse course and try to appease Melo, that means 'committing to winning' (i.e. screwing over the franchise long term to chase the 8th seed).

if it didn't mean Phil was fired then I'd just let Melo know we won't be reneweing him when his contract runs out and that he'll be playing off the bench for 25mins per game.

So true .. so true

EnySpree wrote:I thought Phil was all the way realistic... fans were crying that he wasn't more transparent. He puts it all out there and fans are killing him for that.

If Melo wants to play hardball and not waive his no trade clause, then the Knicks should Marbury his ass. Bench him and make him sit out until he lifts his no trade clause. The team comes before Melo. We don't bow down to no single player I dont care who it is. We are building with youth and that's it. If he starts an internal rif... then we send him home. We don't waive him. Treat him like the 15th man. We need to make a stand.... That's if Melo wants to play this game

Or we could let him play for the D-league team

CrushAlot wrote:

wargames wrote:So Melo wrote #staymelo on his instagram reply to Phil Jackson.

Basically I wanted to ask everyone's opinion of what happens if Melo refuses to waive the NTC? Do they bench him, cut him, severely limit his minutes. Like what are the options if he decides he doesn't care being on a rebuild team to end his career?

I think that could be really interesting. AT what point does the nba get involved with the KNicks again in regards to management and ownership. Phil and Dolan are such an embarassment. I was hoping something would happen with the Oakley incident. Phil is the new worst exec in the league that works for the Knicks and has more job security than anyone in the nba. The knicks have had that guy before and it always sucks.

Why is Phil and embarrassment? He says the truth about his "star" player. Give me a break! The guy is paid $$25M per year. Stop bitching and play the damn game! He has the lowest BBall IQ on the team. He does not play defense and he stops motion on offense. Yes he can score at times but never when the team needs it.

Sorry, I will go with Phil over Melo any day of the week. Phil has won. Melo has not taken a team past the 2nd round ever!