WaltLongmire wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

Does he emerge as a "hero" to teammates...and a potential leader, will to stand up to the "man?"

Going to get publicity...I think he earns point with other players on the team.

Vmart wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:After Melo is gone watch everyone here turn on Porzingis. If we can't win at least we are set for having a scapegoat for a couple years.

That is probably the narrative the media will take and some will refer to as the gospel. But those in the know that a young team will need time.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

Phil isn't going to let KP get away with this. It's embarrassing to him and their will be retribution.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

I know you can't wait for him to leave. But dont expect the dysfunction to go away. Don't expect the team to start winning. Don't expect Jeff Hornacek to be given a real chance to coach with autonomy. Don't expect anything back for Melo. Don't expect Phil to mentor more or for his mentoring to have a positive effect, and don't expect KP to stick around if this nonsense continues.

Yikes, someone is bitter

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

what explanation do you need..the dude isn't dumb, and phils press conference was absolutely brain dead, with no direction..Phil is not going to let the coach do him, and the players don't like it, and you're constantly throwing your best player under the bus, the one he wants to trade

Melo has way more respect around this league than PHIL..Nix face it, we are doom for the next 2 yrs.

But you know whats going to happen, Phil will make a horrible trade for some trash, sign some more bad contracts like NOAH (there isn't a decent FA coming here)

I notice you left you other whipping boy rose out of your comment, now it's just melo..Why because Phil is going to sign him for 4 yrs(2 yrs after he's gone)

It's just a matter of time before you wake up

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

I know you can't wait for him to leave. But dont expect the dysfunction to go away. Don't expect the team to start winning. Don't expect Jeff Hornacek to be given a real chance to coach with autonomy. Don't expect anything back for Melo. Don't expect Phil to mentor more or for his mentoring to have a positive effect, and don't expect KP to stick around if this nonsense continues.

Yikes, someone is bitter

Is there something there that you think isn't accurate? I just listened to Phil for 50 minutes. Nothing he said has given me anymore confidence that he is going to be a better executive. Someone, Bobby Marks?, said several months ago that based on his experience he would expect that KP's agent would have already contacted the KNicks about concerns.

all of what you said was about predicting the future and you want to ask me what isn't accurate? All of it?

CrushAlot wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

Phil isn't going to let KP get away with this. It's embarrassing to him and their will be retribution.

Phil is on vacation until the last Thursday in June. KP is fine.

Is he really ever not on vacation? Dude is just cashing checks to coach from afar.

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

what explanation do you need..the dude isn't dumb, and phils press conference was absolutely brain dead, with no direction..Phil is not going to let the coach do him, and the players don't like it, and you're constantly throwing your best player under the bus, the one he wants to trade

Melo has way more respect around this league than PHIL..Nix face it, we are doom for the next 2 yrs.

But you know whats going to happen, Phil will make a horrible trade for some trash, sign some more bad contracts like NOAH (there isn't a decent FA coming here)

I notice you left you other whipping boy rose out of your comment, now it's just melo..Why because Phil is going to sign him for 4 yrs(2 yrs after he's gone)

It's just a matter of time before you wake up

KP is young and may not fully understand what's in his best interests. Phil was actually very clear in his Press Conference.

Who gives a flip what the rest of the league feels about Melo? Why should we care if people like Phil as opposed to Melo? All that matters is what's best for the team and IMO, Melo is not good for the team.

I still have issues with Rose. I don't expect Phil to bring Rose back. Keeping that option open isn't a guarantee that he's bringing Rose back. Phil said he basically considers Rose a scoring guard and not a PG and I agree.

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

what explanation do you need..the dude isn't dumb, and phils press conference was absolutely brain dead, with no direction..Phil is not going to let the coach do him, and the players don't like it, and you're constantly throwing your best player under the bus, the one he wants to trade

Melo has way more respect around this league than PHIL..Nix face it, we are doom for the next 2 yrs.

But you know whats going to happen, Phil will make a horrible trade for some trash, sign some more bad contracts like NOAH (there isn't a decent FA coming here)

I notice you left you other whipping boy rose out of your comment, now it's just melo..Why because Phil is going to sign him for 4 yrs(2 yrs after he's gone)

It's just a matter of time before you wake up

KP is young and may not fully understand what's in his best interests. Phil was actually very clear in his Press Conference.

Who gives a flip what the rest of the league feels about Melo? Why should we care if people like Phil as opposed to Melo? All that matters is what's best for the team and IMO, Melo is not good for the team.

I still have issues with Rose. I don't expect Phil to bring Rose back. Keeping that option open isn't a guarantee that he's bringing Rose back. Phil said he basically considers Rose a scoring guard and not a PG and I agree.

Why is there even a reason to keep an option open. Just a few days ago you were all excited about how KP wanted to step up and be a leader but because you don't agree with his possible opinion you think he is being naive.

yellowboy90 wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't have an issue with KP having support for his friend Melo but this seems out of character for KP. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until we hear directly from KP how he feels. It also makes me wonder if Melo spoke to KP and influenced his view on things.

He is the only young player that has a contract other than Willy that can say something. This is a big deal. So was the top down comment. Phil has created such a dysfunctional situation. Why is Dolan always so loyal to the guys that just suck so bad at their jobs? Grunwald had a winning record and got the Knicks to the playoffs both years he was in place. Walsh was pretty good and certainly wasn't dysfunctional like Isiah. The league had to intervene to get Isiah removed. I believe Dolan teared up when he replaced Layden. Now Phil is getting two more years.

I actually can't WAIT for Melo to be gone!!! This team needs to be free of this drama. I still want to hear from KP on this to see what his explanation is. He's going to have to talk with Phil and get clarity on things.

Phil is doing the right thing for this franchise. KP needs to understand that Melo's agenda isn't good for this franchise. One day KP is going to realize this.

I know you can't wait for him to leave. But dont expect the dysfunction to go away. Don't expect the team to start winning. Don't expect Jeff Hornacek to be given a real chance to coach with autonomy. Don't expect anything back for Melo. Don't expect Phil to mentor more or for his mentoring to have a positive effect, and don't expect KP to stick around if this nonsense continues.

Yikes, someone is bitter

Is there something there that you think isn't accurate? I just listened to Phil for 50 minutes. Nothing he said has given me anymore confidence that he is going to be a better executive. Someone, Bobby Marks?, said several months ago that based on his experience he would expect that KP's agent would have already contacted the KNicks about concerns.

all of what you said was about predicting the future and you want to ask me what isn't accurate? All of it?

Nix tried to predicts the future all the time but you don't call him bitter. It's amazing how Phil is involve in turmoil every year but yet we are supposed to think things will change.

Have you read Nix's posts? His are the opposite of bitter.