SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

I guess that depends on who you consider to be the Steph Curry we might miss out on. I worry about dropping too far down the Lottery myself but if that happens it's because we have 2 Nets games coming up. Kind of hard to play worse than a team like that. I've come to accept that the Knicks will win more of these games than we may want. SO SAD

nixluva wrote:Randle is one of those guys that fell thru the draft cracks cuz he was older and they saw no upside. None of that matters in terms of how much he can help this team. Randle LITERALLY boosts his team when he steps on the floor and he showed this in Summer League.

He's proof that knowing what you're doing supersedes pure physical talent. Rose has all the physical talent even after all the surgery but no understanding of how to play the position!!!

Yes... our summer league was terrible. He came in and the whole team changed. He took over and uplifted everyone else. Much like what he did last night. The kid has an aura about him.... I don't want to over state things but I have a great feeling about the guy.

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

I guess that depends on who you consider to be the Steph Curry we might miss out on. I worry about dropping too far down the Lottery myself but if that happens it's because we have 2 Nets games coming up. Kind of hard to play worse than a team like that. I've come to accept that the Knicks will win more of these games than we may want. SO SAD

I want either of the Kentucky guards, preference to Fox but would be ecstatic with Monk, (assuming we don't get a top 2 pick). I think both of those guys would be viewed as much better prospects if they weren't sharing the back court together. I have a feeling we're going to just miss out on the last available between the two...

Draft Express

First Round
 1	Markelle Fultz  PG
18 yrs; 6'4"; 195 lbs.
Washington, Fr
 2	Lonzo Ball  PG
19 yrs; 6'6"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Fr
 3	Josh Jackson  SF
20 yrs; 6'8"; 203 lbs.
Kansas, Fr
 4	Jayson Tatum  SF
19 yrs; 6'8"; 204 lbs.
Duke, Fr
 5	Dennis Smith  PG
19 yrs; 6'3"; 195 lbs.
N.C. State, Fr
 6	Jonathan Isaac  SF
19 yrs; 6'11"; 205 lbs.
Florida St, Fr
 7	Lauri Markkanen  PF
19 yrs; 7'0"; 225 lbs.
Arizona, Fr
 8	De'Aaron Fox  PG
19 yrs; 6'4"; 171 lbs.
Kentucky, Fr
 9	Malik Monk  PG/SG
19 yrs; 6'4"; 185 lbs.
Kentucky, Fr
 10	Robert Williams  PF/C
19 yrs; 6'9"; 237 lbs.
Texas A&M, Fr
 11	Frank Ntilikina  PG
18 yrs; 6'5"; 170 lbs.
Strasbourg, Intl
 12	Miles Bridges  SF/PF
18 yrs; 6'6"; 226 lbs.
Michigan St, Fr
 13	Justin Jackson  SF
21 yrs; 6'8"; 193 lbs.
North Carolina, Jr
 14	Terrance Ferguson  SG
18 yrs; 6'7"; 186 lbs.
Adelaide, Fr

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

This is such a ridiculous statement because you can end up with OK4 instead of KP, greg Oden, instead of KD. It's really never about where you pick, it's who you pick that fits.

knicks1248 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

This is such a ridiculous statement because you can end up with OK4 instead of KP, greg Oden, instead of KD. It's really never about where you pick, it's who you pick that fits.

It's not a ridiculous statement. It's just a different point of view. At the time Jordan Hill did not project to be a star power fwd. Once we got him you realized he wasn't going to be a starter in this league. Steph Curry had his faults but he looked like a stud asst a position we needed. Comparing ok4 and KP? I would have been fine with ok4. He had a decent career. Ode had bad luck but he was worth being picked where he was.... anyway we could go into the draft with no picks and still come up with rookie of the year with as undrafted rookie if the basketball gods say so. So shoo fly shoo.

knicks1248 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

This is such a ridiculous statement because you can end up with OK4 instead of KP, greg Oden, instead of KD. It's really never about where you pick, it's who you pick that fits.

This is basic nonsense- the higher your pick, the more players you can chose from, the few teams can pick the player you want. Do you honestly think if we had had the number 1 pick in every draft for the past 4 years we would be no better than if we'd had the number 9 pick in every draft for the past 4 years? Can you honestly not see the difference in probability?

meloshouldgo wrote:I couldn't watch yesterday, anyone care to comment on his defense?

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm happy to see that he took advantage of his opportunity... but I'm more irritated that the Knicks play better with $45 million on the bench

I'd say don't be irritated but rejoice 😜 At least you can see the brighter future is possible as we get rid of the older guys. It's unfortunate that Melo and Noah will be on the books but at least the bulk of the team will be young guys that make a difference going forward.

I really want to rejoice... and I don't disagree with you... but I really don't want to end up with Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry

I guess that depends on who you consider to be the Steph Curry we might miss out on. I worry about dropping too far down the Lottery myself but if that happens it's because we have 2 Nets games coming up. Kind of hard to play worse than a team like that. I've come to accept that the Knicks will win more of these games than we may want. SO SAD

I want either of the Kentucky guards, preference to Fox but would be ecstatic with Monk, (assuming we don't get a top 2 pick). I think both of those guys would be viewed as much better prospects if they weren't sharing the back court together. I have a feeling we're going to just miss out on the last available between the two...

I think we have to stay in the 7, 8, 9 range in order to be sure to get one of the guys we need, but even out to 12 you can still grab a good player! Just can't fall out of the Lottery.

Draft Express

First Round
 1	Markelle Fultz  PG
18 yrs; 6'4"; 195 lbs.
Washington, Fr
 2	Lonzo Ball  PG
19 yrs; 6'6"; 190 lbs.
UCLA, Fr
 3	Josh Jackson  SF
20 yrs; 6'8"; 203 lbs.
Kansas, Fr
 4	Jayson Tatum  SF
19 yrs; 6'8"; 204 lbs.
Duke, Fr
 5	Dennis Smith  PG
19 yrs; 6'3"; 195 lbs.
N.C. State, Fr
 6	Jonathan Isaac  SF
19 yrs; 6'11"; 205 lbs.
Florida St, Fr
 7	Lauri Markkanen  PF
19 yrs; 7'0"; 225 lbs.
Arizona, Fr
 8	De'Aaron Fox  PG
19 yrs; 6'4"; 171 lbs.
Kentucky, Fr
 9	Malik Monk  PG/SG
19 yrs; 6'4"; 185 lbs.
Kentucky, Fr
 10	Robert Williams  PF/C
19 yrs; 6'9"; 237 lbs.
Texas A&M, Fr
 11	Frank Ntilikina  PG
18 yrs; 6'5"; 170 lbs.
Strasbourg, Intl
 12	Miles Bridges  SF/PF
18 yrs; 6'6"; 226 lbs.
Michigan St, Fr
 13	Justin Jackson  SF
21 yrs; 6'8"; 193 lbs.
North Carolina, Jr
 14	Terrance Ferguson  SG
18 yrs; 6'7"; 186 lbs.
Adelaide, Fr

My assumption is pouty Melo will still try to play at SF, and that Noah will be the starting center next year until the heavens part and dictate otherwise. The list shrinks if you do that.

If you don't want to do that, I don't like any of the Duke players, history tells you not to draft anyone from Arizona, Dennis Smith scares me because NC St is as disappointing as the Knicks are, Robert Williams is not what we need, and I am a big NO on Miles Bridges as history demonstrates that tweeners at SF/PF don't pan at well at all in the NBA. So that's five guys off that list and it could be more, as I really have no idea about the international players