knicks1248 wrote:This so bad for business, it's like he's putting key scratches in the car he is trying to sell.

Now that's funny.

But if he is trying to sell a car that everyone know something is wrong with it, the key scratches don't make a difference

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:This so bad for business, it's like he's putting key scratches in the car he is trying to sell.

Now that's funny.

But if he is trying to sell a car that everyone know something is wrong with it, the key scratches don't make a difference

True but scratches further drive down value. This is poor management regardless of how anybody feels about Melo. Continuing to drive down value and trade from a position of weakness is foolish.

So much for "change the culture." The optics of this look very poor for the future regardless of outcome.

nyknickzingis wrote:I said this last season after Phil drafted KP, Grant, and Willy and then refused to trade away a future draft pick in deadline deals (such as for a PG like Teague). Years from now people will appreciate the job Phil did in this tenure. Right now it looks like chaos. It looks bad. But only if you judge the situation based on present value. The short term moves he's made suck. Longterm? The Knicks will reap the benefits of the team not spending max dollars on stars who can not carry a team to anywhere good and the investment in draft picks.

Keeping the picks has been the saving grace. I respect that. It's the only way out of this mess.

EnySpree wrote:

holfresh wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691601-phil-jackson-knicks-stymied-by-wanting-carmelo-to-be-something-he-is-not

Even more fascinating? Jackson’s public response:

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Phil Jackson ✔ @PhilJackson11
Bleacher's Ding almost rings the bell, but I learned you don't change the spot on a leopard with Michael Graham in my CBA daze.
1:22 PM - 7 Feb 2017

Wow..Jackson has nothing to say publicly about the team but takes a show at Melo in a tweet..He wants to get fired and pocket the 24 mil left on his deal...Not surprising...

More likely he's trying to get melo to agree to a trade- good tactic if it works, but a big gamble. let's see what happens

Phil is hurting the franchise with this..This only confirms what people think of New York..It's juvenile..

One Tweet stating what every writer, commentator and fan has been saying his whole nba career... and you interpret it to Phil being to get fired so he can cash in? Calling a 70 year old man Juvenile? Give me a break fam.

We're losing because Melo refuses to change period. He's better suited to be a hired gun at this point. Phil gave him his money and a no trade clause because he genuinely wants to be here.... he's proven now that he doesn't want to win. He wants to hold the ball and shoot. He doesn't want to play a team game. That's why Phil is forcing the triangle. He wants Melo to realize that he had to pass the ball to win. He refused to adapt. He breaks plays left and right and holds the ball 5-7 seconds almost every time.

Bottom line I'm not going to be a sucker and attack Dolan, Phil, Steve Mills, Hornacek and Rambis. Fire all those guys and Whoever replaces them will have to figure out who they can trade to make the team win around Melo. Enough.... it's time to kill that noise.

He was a hired gun to begin with, it's just that phil wanted the gun to do more than it was brought in to do.

Post up melo, put a bunch of shooters on the perimeter make sure they play defense big time.. and you get 54 wins.

Why doesn't phil tweet about the horrible defense the entire team plays, kp leading the league in fouls, and not able to stay on the floor, or about how badly noah as lost a step, or rose inability to pass to anyone other than himself.

When you start picking on one guy when there is so many other issues, it does seem childish and juvenile, and vindictive

EnySpree wrote:

holfresh wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691601-phil-jackson-knicks-stymied-by-wanting-carmelo-to-be-something-he-is-not

Even more fascinating? Jackson’s public response:

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Phil Jackson ✔ @PhilJackson11
Bleacher's Ding almost rings the bell, but I learned you don't change the spot on a leopard with Michael Graham in my CBA daze.
1:22 PM - 7 Feb 2017

Wow..Jackson has nothing to say publicly about the team but takes a show at Melo in a tweet..He wants to get fired and pocket the 24 mil left on his deal...Not surprising...

More likely he's trying to get melo to agree to a trade- good tactic if it works, but a big gamble. let's see what happens

Phil is hurting the franchise with this..This only confirms what people think of New York..It's juvenile..

One Tweet stating what every writer, commentator and fan has been saying his whole nba career... and you interpret it to Phil being to get fired so he can cash in? Calling a 70 year old man Juvenile? Give me a break fam.

We're losing because Melo refuses to change period. He's better suited to be a hired gun at this point. Phil gave him his money and a no trade clause because he genuinely wants to be here.... he's proven now that he doesn't want to win. He wants to hold the ball and shoot. He doesn't want to play a team game. That's why Phil is forcing the triangle. He wants Melo to realize that he had to pass the ball to win. He refused to adapt. He breaks plays left and right and holds the ball 5-7 seconds almost every time.

Bottom line I'm not going to be a sucker and attack Dolan, Phil, Steve Mills, Hornacek and Rambis. Fire all those guys and Whoever replaces them will have to figure out who they can trade to make the team win around Melo. Enough.... it's time to kill that noise.

Phil poisoned the well when he pushed the triangle..He completely screwed the trust between the players and coaches..Doesn't matter now..This will end ugly with a new guy promising "culture change"..

Would Melo's trade value go UP if Phil started saying nice things? No. Rosen article comes out and it's all roses about Melo? Nada.

What I love about this: Melo becomes more frustrated, team is losing. That's a win-win for the long term of the Knicks; better draft position while trying to move Melo.

martin wrote:For me the analogy of scratching a car you want sell is a poor one. Melo's game does not change because of articles written or tweets made, that's just silly talk. Melo is who Melo is and every player and GM knows this; dude has been in the league for 13 years.

Would Melo's trade value go UP if Phil started saying nice things? No. Rosen article comes out and it's all roses about Melo? Nada.

What I love about this: Melo becomes more frustrated, team is losing. That's a win-win for the long term of the Knicks; better draft position while trying to move Melo.

Agree 100%

meloshouldgo wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:This so bad for business, it's like he's putting key scratches in the car he is trying to sell.

It's missing a steering wheel and the brakes don't work, but yeah let's focus on the key scratches.

Bruh that's all I'm saying

Something is going on here.

Has Melo privately advised Phil that he has no intention on waiving his No Trade Clause, which prompted Phil's tweet. Did Phil propose a trade to Melo with a team not on his preferred list and was rebuffed thus spurring on the tweet?

This is Phil's passive aggressive way of letting Melo know that he does not want him on the team any longer--in an attempt to anger him into waiving his no trade clause prior to the deadline. Interesting to see if it actually works.