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StarksEwing1
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1/9/2017  10:20 PM
Its funny i finally started respecting Rose. During the rape thing i bashed him quite a bit then i felt guilty about. Now i feel stupid for feeling guilty. I understand having disagreements but you cant just go AWOL. Its the ultimate disrespect to your organization and teamates. I doubt anyone still wants to give him a long term deal now
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1/9/2017  10:20 PM
crzymdups wrote:
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nixluva wrote:SMDH! Too much EGO going on. Melo and Rose are not leading by example. This is the wrong way to handle this kind of thing as a NBA vet. I'm extremely disappointed in BOTH Rose and Melo right now.

To be fair Melo does not deserve to be piled in with Rose. I'm an advocate of trading Melo if the deal is good, but he is a pretty good teammate and leader. Rose has had poor body language and played selfishly for weeks.

Melo has always shown up. Every day.

I often watch teammate interactions. Melo has been really good with KP. That's why KP vouches for him again and again. On the flip Rose is robotic in interactions. He's never engaged or looks truly happy for a teammate. Then as a point guard he plays extremely selfishly.

I've made a thread a few days ago about wanting to trade Rose. Problem now is teams will low ball the Knicks. Phil has never been great at trades anyway, and now you add a disgruntled player. Two second rounders would suffice I guess. Before this a first rounder was likely realistic.

Knicks need to move fast. Longer this drags worse it is for the team.
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1/9/2017  10:27 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
nixluva wrote:SMDH! Too much EGO going on. Melo and Rose are not leading by example. This is the wrong way to handle this kind of thing as a NBA vet. I'm extremely disappointed in BOTH Rose and Melo right now.

To be fair Melo does not deserve to be piled in with Rose. I'm an advocate of trading Melo if the deal is good, but he is a pretty good teammate and leader. Rose has had poor body language and played selfishly for weeks.

Melo has always shown up. Every day.

I often watch teammate interactions. Melo has been really good with KP. That's why KP vouches for him again and again. On the flip Rose is robotic in interactions. He's never engaged or looks truly happy for a teammate. Then as a point guard he plays extremely selfishly.

I've made a thread a few days ago about wanting to trade Rose. Problem now is teams will low ball the Knicks. Phil has never been great at trades anyway, and now you add a disgruntled player. Two second rounders would suffice I guess. Before this a first rounder was likely realistic.

Knicks need to move fast. Longer this drags worse it is for the team.

No one should ever ever group melo in with rose. Melo has been vital to Porzingis and his development and he's a good teammate.
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1/9/2017  10:28 PM
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1/9/2017  10:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2017  10:29 PM
The notion that an NBA star of his reputation who plays on the Knicks can "disappear" in the NYC area for any serious length of time is mind bogglingly odd in this day and age.

He has no cell phone or it's on "do not disturb?" Yeah right.

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1/9/2017  10:28 PM
Again... I hope Rose is okay.

But can anyone remember an NBA player just QUITTING on their team? I can't remember it ever happening.

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1/9/2017  10:30 PM
Noah says Rose is ok. I predict he'll never play again for the Knicks. sigh.

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1/9/2017  10:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2017  10:33 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Its funny i finally started respecting Rose. During the rape thing i bashed him quite a bit then i felt guilty about. Now i feel stupid for feeling guilty. I understand having disagreements but you cant just go AWOL. Its the ultimate disrespect to your organization and teamates. I doubt anyone still wants to give him a long term deal now

There you go again passing judgement with zero clue what really happened or is happening..
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holfresh wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Its funny i finally started respecting Rose. During the rape thing i bashed him quite a bit then i felt guilty about. Now i feel stupid for feeling guilty. I understand having disagreements but you cant just go AWOL. Its the ultimate disrespect to your organization and teamates. I doubt anyone still wants to give him a long term deal now

There's you go again passing judgement with zero clue what really happened or is happening..

I don't think you have to be Columbo to figure it out

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1/9/2017  10:34 PM
crzymdups wrote:Again... I hope Rose is okay.

But can anyone remember an NBA player just QUITTING on their team? I can't remember it ever happening.

if its a sudden family emergency then i would understood but it sounds like he is just pissed at jeff and he wenr AWOL. In that case i hope he is traded or released
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1/9/2017  10:36 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Again... I hope Rose is okay.

But can anyone remember an NBA player just QUITTING on their team? I can't remember it ever happening.

if its a sudden family emergency then i would understood but it sounds like he is just pissed at jeff and he wenr AWOL. In that case i hope he is traded or released

It sort of seems like Rose was stuck in a bubble in Chicago and once he played bball outside the bubble for the first time... couldn't handle it? This is one reason I liked the Noah signing. Rose was obviously a hyper sensitive guy and I thought Noah would help him adjust... but I guess it wasn't enough.

I can't see the Knicks and Rose coming back from this. Who knows though.

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1/9/2017  10:38 PM
Joakim Noah says he's spoken to Derrick Rose after the game and that Rose is OK.
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1/9/2017  10:39 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
nixluva wrote:SMDH! Too much EGO going on. Melo and Rose are not leading by example. This is the wrong way to handle this kind of thing as a NBA vet. I'm extremely disappointed in BOTH Rose and Melo right now.

To be fair Melo does not deserve to be piled in with Rose. I'm an advocate of trading Melo if the deal is good, but he is a pretty good teammate and leader. Rose has had poor body language and played selfishly for weeks.

Melo has always shown up. Every day.

I often watch teammate interactions. Melo has been really good with KP. That's why KP vouches for him again and again. On the flip Rose is robotic in interactions. He's never engaged or looks truly happy for a teammate. Then as a point guard he plays extremely selfishly.

I've made a thread a few days ago about wanting to trade Rose. Problem now is teams will low ball the Knicks. Phil has never been great at trades anyway, and now you add a disgruntled player. Two second rounders would suffice I guess. Before this a first rounder was likely realistic.

Knicks need to move fast. Longer this drags worse it is for the team.


Yup

Has some value as an expiring contract, and might fit in with certain teams, but at this moment you are looking at a couple of #2s (maybe a very late #1) and players another team wants to jettison.

What he did tonight destroys much or most of his value.

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1/9/2017  10:39 PM
Noah has confirmed he spoke to him after the game. This appears to be basketball related. That being the case he should be traded with immediate effect. He should never wear the Knicks jersey again.
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1/9/2017  10:39 PM
holfresh wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Its funny i finally started respecting Rose. During the rape thing i bashed him quite a bit then i felt guilty about. Now i feel stupid for feeling guilty. I understand having disagreements but you cant just go AWOL. Its the ultimate disrespect to your organization and teamates. I doubt anyone still wants to give him a long term deal now

There you go again passing judgement with zero clue what really happened or is happening..

passing judgment? I said if there was a family emergency or something i would understand but its clear thats not the case at all. Pretty much everyone here is saying the same thing as i am
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1/9/2017  10:39 PM
magicTs wrote:Joakim Noah says he's spoken to Derrick Rose after the game and that Rose is OK.

Yeah, just watched it. Noah looked shell shocked though.

This is not a good situation.

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1/9/2017  10:42 PM
Watching this Noah interview is sad - here it is for anyone who hasn't seen it.

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1/9/2017  10:44 PM
crzymdups wrote:
magicTs wrote:Joakim Noah says he's spoken to Derrick Rose after the game and that Rose is OK.

Yeah, just watched it. Noah looked shell shocked though.

This is not a good situation.

agreed. Somebody just said i was passing judgment on him but its pretty obvious Rose didnt have a legit reason for being a no show.
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1/9/2017  10:45 PM
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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