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nyknickzingis wrote:Hardest thing in the league to do is get talent.

We have all star level skill at 4/5 positions. Now all 4 players may not be at their best or in the case of 3 out of the 4, they can not sustain heavy minutes at that level, but we saw on Saturday night those skills. You didn't see Calderon initiate breaks or break down a defense with penetration. You didn't see Lopez (as solid as he was in the paint) pass or board and bring that atmosphere and energy to the team.

We have a much much more talented team here. I'm looking forward to it. We should let the season play out and then worry about the rest. These guys aren't that old. Melo still has 2 more years at an all star level. Rose is still in his 20s.

I would disagree. It's easy to get talent if you overpay. The hardest thing in this league, especially with the new CBA, is to get good value.

And how does one measure value, oh wizard of the calculator? Do you divide salary by number of chips?

How about Cablevision's bottom line? How's Jimmie's investment doing so far?

Melo in nice luxury item to show in your building and a lot of tourist and celebs will come to watch it at the Garden.
No doubt he is a good investment for Dolan and MSG.
He is money well spend for the owner.
What I get as a fan so far... not much.
Bunch of buckets I guess on even bigger bunch of attempts.
Some bully ball and isolations. What else... some drama...
I never paid for this zo... even a $1 so may be it is good enough?

Simple question, Can you name anyone in the league that would have won with the roster given to him the last three years? Last I checked this is not a one man sport. Most complaining are whining fans that are unrealistic about the game. They want that magic unicorn that can allow them to brag about how good their team is. Just takes more than one guy. The last year we surrounded him with decent mixture of young talent and vets he won 54 games. Just because people hype up mediocre players like Calderon, Afflalo, Grant, O'Quinn, Galloway,(should I go on), before the season, doesn't mean they are worth a ****. But I get it, unrealistic fans need to blame someone for spoiling their self imposed crazy expectations.

ask DK... he's still sore. If you yank his pants down you will see he's got DAN and ILO tattooed on his ass cheeks.

correct. and when you overpay for talent, including trading away assets when you don't have to, you end up with mediocrity or worse most of the time. and that's been the history of the melo-era knicks: mediocre or worse most of the time.
the laughable aspect of all this is that with melo it is always someone else's fault.

Your mistaken....I will bet it is, without a doubt, JEREMY LIN

Knicks67 wrote:Sorry I'm new here and didn't mean to delete the original thread. Thanks for the feedback, I feel like there was one fantastic point raised about contenders having a lack of realistic assets for an ageing star so I expect the only real eventualities are: a) Boston. or b) A playoff team to MAKE a contender (Okc / Blazers / Rockets). Maybe not enough assets for our boy Melo but we shall see. Go the Knicks, shake off the Pistons loss and bounce back.

melo should be able to move into more of a sixth man role after this season. the knicks are getting younger and the center of gravity of the franchise is going to shift to kp6. knicks need to score a high bbiq point guard in the draft next summer and then they're on their way. don't set expectations too high this season.