knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

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StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

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i wanted noah from day 1. My only gripe is the length of the contract

Again why gripe? Stop fighting for the right to make back handed comments and nitpicking. We got a team now. Noah is what we need. I want him here forever. He's going to hold his end of the bargain. We have to hold ours. Go Knicks

Dude you need to stop it. Positivity is great and i consider myself a positive fan but im not gonna just shut my mouth if i dont like something. First of all if you read my posts you would notice i was one of the biggest supporters of bringing noah in. All i said is that i wasnt crazy about the extra year or 2 on the deal mostly because of his recent injuries/age. Thats not negativity thats just having a legit concern. You gotta let fans have their own voice and cant accuse them of negativity all the time

much of his value is connected with jackson's efforts to bring about "culture change." in this regard the length of the contract is just fine by me.

im ok with it. Id rather have noah than not at all. I just hope his body will stay relatively healthy the last 2 years of the deal

In this situation I think Noah is a great addition in terms of his mentoring of the young players and his overall intensity in practice and in games. He's just the right kind of player for a team looking to have a winning attitude. Players like Noah definitely change the culture. The goal is not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys develop faster and by being around Noah for the next year or more it's a good influence.

Noah was signed to play. Sure he's an awesome mentor to learn from, but nobody pays that kind of money the Knicks have for that. You get a Juwan Howard like Miami did for such things, actual older vets similar to the 2012-2013 team. Rasheed was injured, and Camby was old as was Kurt thomas, those guys sign on for cheap for the mentoring, play a little every now and then role. Definitely a good influence, no doubt, but he is being paid primarily for his skills on the court.

I never suggested Noah doesn't have to play. I said "not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys". I don't think Noah is going to ever play 82 games anymore but his extra value is his leadership which he's ALREADY started doing!!! That stuff is invaluable and just another coach doesn't bring his particular intensity. The rest of the team can pick up a lot even in practice from Noah. We're paying him for on court and off court.

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/NykInsider/status/777192048122298369

i wanted noah from day 1. My only gripe is the length of the contract

Again why gripe? Stop fighting for the right to make back handed comments and nitpicking. We got a team now. Noah is what we need. I want him here forever. He's going to hold his end of the bargain. We have to hold ours. Go Knicks

Dude you need to stop it. Positivity is great and i consider myself a positive fan but im not gonna just shut my mouth if i dont like something. First of all if you read my posts you would notice i was one of the biggest supporters of bringing noah in. All i said is that i wasnt crazy about the extra year or 2 on the deal mostly because of his recent injuries/age. Thats not negativity thats just having a legit concern. You gotta let fans have their own voice and cant accuse them of negativity all the time

much of his value is connected with jackson's efforts to bring about "culture change." in this regard the length of the contract is just fine by me.

im ok with it. Id rather have noah than not at all. I just hope his body will stay relatively healthy the last 2 years of the deal

In this situation I think Noah is a great addition in terms of his mentoring of the young players and his overall intensity in practice and in games. He's just the right kind of player for a team looking to have a winning attitude. Players like Noah definitely change the culture. The goal is not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys develop faster and by being around Noah for the next year or more it's a good influence.

Noah was signed to play. Sure he's an awesome mentor to learn from, but nobody pays that kind of money the Knicks have for that. You get a Juwan Howard like Miami did for such things, actual older vets similar to the 2012-2013 team. Rasheed was injured, and Camby was old as was Kurt thomas, those guys sign on for cheap for the mentoring, play a little every now and then role. Definitely a good influence, no doubt, but he is being paid primarily for his skills on the court.

I never suggested Noah doesn't have to play. I said "not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys". I don't think Noah is going to ever play 82 games anymore but his extra value is his leadership which he's ALREADY started doing!!! That stuff is invaluable and just another coach doesn't bring his particular intensity. The rest of the team can pick up a lot even in practice from Noah. We're paying him for on court and off court.

Very few players play 82 games, Noah has never done so, no need to have mentioned that. My comment was based on the premise of the last 2 years of his deal in the previous comments. he'll be still expected to play. Of course he's displaying leadership qualities, but the team isn't paying those premiums for that primarily.

I fully expect that Noah will eventually be replaced in the starting lineup and the length of the contract doesn't bother me. It's a failure in my mind if the Knicks can't develop KP or someone else to take the lead in the front court. Right now is not the time to be worried about it tho.

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/NykInsider/status/777192048122298369

i wanted noah from day 1. My only gripe is the length of the contract

Again why gripe? Stop fighting for the right to make back handed comments and nitpicking. We got a team now. Noah is what we need. I want him here forever. He's going to hold his end of the bargain. We have to hold ours. Go Knicks

Dude you need to stop it. Positivity is great and i consider myself a positive fan but im not gonna just shut my mouth if i dont like something. First of all if you read my posts you would notice i was one of the biggest supporters of bringing noah in. All i said is that i wasnt crazy about the extra year or 2 on the deal mostly because of his recent injuries/age. Thats not negativity thats just having a legit concern. You gotta let fans have their own voice and cant accuse them of negativity all the time

much of his value is connected with jackson's efforts to bring about "culture change." in this regard the length of the contract is just fine by me.

im ok with it. Id rather have noah than not at all. I just hope his body will stay relatively healthy the last 2 years of the deal

In this situation I think Noah is a great addition in terms of his mentoring of the young players and his overall intensity in practice and in games. He's just the right kind of player for a team looking to have a winning attitude. Players like Noah definitely change the culture. The goal is not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys develop faster and by being around Noah for the next year or more it's a good influence.

Noah was signed to play. Sure he's an awesome mentor to learn from, but nobody pays that kind of money the Knicks have for that. You get a Juwan Howard like Miami did for such things, actual older vets similar to the 2012-2013 team. Rasheed was injured, and Camby was old as was Kurt thomas, those guys sign on for cheap for the mentoring, play a little every now and then role. Definitely a good influence, no doubt, but he is being paid primarily for his skills on the court.

I never suggested Noah doesn't have to play. I said "not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys". I don't think Noah is going to ever play 82 games anymore but his extra value is his leadership which he's ALREADY started doing!!! That stuff is invaluable and just another coach doesn't bring his particular intensity. The rest of the team can pick up a lot even in practice from Noah. We're paying him for on court and off court.

Very few players play 82 games, Noah has never done so, no need to have mentioned that. My comment was based on the premise of the last 2 years of his deal in the previous comments. he'll be still expected to play. Of course he's displaying leadership qualities, but the team isn't paying those premiums for that primarily.

I fully expect that Noah will eventually be replaced in the starting lineup and the length of the contract doesn't bother me. It's a failure in my mind if the Knicks can't develop KP or someone else to take the lead in the front court. Right now is not the time to be worried about it tho.

That's actually why his exit from the Bulls was eventual. The moment he was casted to the bench his leadership primarily left as well, and it actually seemed to be a good move as while he was productive off the bench he wound up being injured and missed the majority of the season, and in most years with the Bulls record, they would have made the playoffs even without his services. So good luck with the bench route if Noah believes he can still play as a starter. Even I don't believe he'll be so diminished that he'll need to be a backup. He'll have plenty of life to start and finish games. I also don't a center in KP despite his height.

Its no more center position in the league, they're just considered big men who can slide to the C/PF at any point, which is what you expect from KP.

That's why i couldn't understand Aldridge Concerns about playing center, most of the big men in the league are face up shooters, aint that much banging in the paint like before

Kemet wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/NykInsider/status/777192048122298369

i wanted noah from day 1. My only gripe is the length of the contract

Again why gripe? Stop fighting for the right to make back handed comments and nitpicking. We got a team now. Noah is what we need. I want him here forever. He's going to hold his end of the bargain. We have to hold ours. Go Knicks

Dude you need to stop it. Positivity is great and i consider myself a positive fan but im not gonna just shut my mouth if i dont like something. First of all if you read my posts you would notice i was one of the biggest supporters of bringing noah in. All i said is that i wasnt crazy about the extra year or 2 on the deal mostly because of his recent injuries/age. Thats not negativity thats just having a legit concern. You gotta let fans have their own voice and cant accuse them of negativity all the time

much of his value is connected with jackson's efforts to bring about "culture change." in this regard the length of the contract is just fine by me.

im ok with it. Id rather have noah than not at all. I just hope his body will stay relatively healthy the last 2 years of the deal

In this situation I think Noah is a great addition in terms of his mentoring of the young players and his overall intensity in practice and in games. He's just the right kind of player for a team looking to have a winning attitude. Players like Noah definitely change the culture. The goal is not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys develop faster and by being around Noah for the next year or more it's a good influence.

Noah was signed to play. Sure he's an awesome mentor to learn from, but nobody pays that kind of money the Knicks have for that. You get a Juwan Howard like Miami did for such things, actual older vets similar to the 2012-2013 team. Rasheed was injured, and Camby was old as was Kurt thomas, those guys sign on for cheap for the mentoring, play a little every now and then role. Definitely a good influence, no doubt, but he is being paid primarily for his skills on the court.

I never suggested Noah doesn't have to play. I said "not only for Noah to play well, but for him to help the young guys". I don't think Noah is going to ever play 82 games anymore but his extra value is his leadership which he's ALREADY started doing!!! That stuff is invaluable and just another coach doesn't bring his particular intensity. The rest of the team can pick up a lot even in practice from Noah. We're paying him for on court and off court.

Very few players play 82 games, Noah has never done so, no need to have mentioned that. My comment was based on the premise of the last 2 years of his deal in the previous comments. he'll be still expected to play. Of course he's displaying leadership qualities, but the team isn't paying those premiums for that primarily.

I fully expect that Noah will eventually be replaced in the starting lineup and the length of the contract doesn't bother me. It's a failure in my mind if the Knicks can't develop KP or someone else to take the lead in the front court. Right now is not the time to be worried about it tho.

That's actually why his exit from the Bulls was eventual. The moment he was casted to the bench his leadership primarily left as well, and it actually seemed to be a good move as while he was productive off the bench he wound up being injured and missed the majority of the season, and in most years with the Bulls record, they would have made the playoffs even without his services. So good luck with the bench route if Noah believes he can still play as a starter. Even I don't believe he'll be so diminished that he'll need to be a backup. He'll have plenty of life to start and finish games. I also don't a center in KP despite his height.

Its no more center position in the league, they're just considered big men who can slide to the C/PF at any point, which is what you expect from KP.

That's why i couldn't understand Aldridge Concerns about playing center, most of the big men in the league are face up shooters, aint that much banging in the paint like before

Aldridge was right he is not a center in the NBA, the mighty Tim Duncan wore down in the regular season.
Aldridge were force to play center for the Spurs in the postseason games to find out he was no match vs OKC bigmen Kanter, Ibaka, and Adams in the 2nd round. GS werent a match vs Kanter, Ibaka, and Adams, until OKC coach practically gave Kanter a DNP the final 3 games of the series.

The league has so many small-ball NBA teams .. NBA centers has become obsolete, which are why the average NBA team now look weaker than the old NCAA teams back when they only sent college-players to the USA basketball Olympics, back then the average college player joined the NBA after their Junior or senior year.
Now the NBA are filled with 19 and 20 year old raw babies with little skills in the starter lineup.

Its a pity now that the Shaqs Duncans D.Howards and Marc Gasols dont have a place in the NBA any longer.
If the Knicks didnt do the Rose trade and kept Robin Lopez, plus signed Joakim Noah in the offseason to tandem alongside Lopez or our upcoming young 7.3 KP ...all the summer sports writers would have put the Knicks into the 2016-17 post season games, giving Phil Jackson so much hype over the summer.

Do you really think that the Shaq's and Duncans don't have a place in the NBA anymore? 2 of the best players of all time?