ChuckBuck wrote:nixluva wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:fishmike wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:fishmike wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:I don't think anyone is asking Rose to be super efficient they just want him to at least have avg efficiency for a PG. If you can't do that then don't take so many dumb shots.
Think he will be an upgrade from Jose?
Who know's? If he plays like last year you just traded a bad player for a bad player. WIth Rose you get the potential for a possible upgrade.
Putting Langston at PG for 40 minutes per night "you get the potential for a possible upgrade"That's a pretty weak response. Feel free to offer a simple opinion at any time.
Did the Knicks upgrade PG?
A) Yes
B) No
Feel free to add adjectives: slightly, marginally, greatly, epically, costly...
Its not that hard.
Anyway, if Rose plays like he has been then it is not an upgrade.
are you deaf/blind? he said A or B thats it! stop beating around his bush.
YEAH! It's a black and white answer! Or should I say black and Spanish national team? 
Like alot of us been saying, just because Rose can do a dipsy do impossible reverse layup from time to time, doesn't mean it's a clear upgrade. Most of those dipsy do's and teardrops have been bricks the last few years for Rose....
Near the basket Rose was capable enough after he got his game back last year. He Should be even better this season being able to have more space to attack the rim with Lee, Melo and KP spacing the floor and drawing defenders away from the basket. If Hornacek clears out the paint and spreads the defense out there's no way that teams will be able to defend both the 3pt line and also stop Rose from getting to the basket.Derrick Rose scoring from Mid Range and close to the Rim last season for Jan, Feb and Mar.
January
Shot Distance (5ft) FGM FGA FG%
Less Than 5 ft. 50 88 56.8
5-9 ft. 11 26 42.3
10-14 ft. 15 29 51.7 February
Shot Distance (5ft) FGM FGA FG%
Less Than 5 ft. 23 46 50.0
5-9 ft. 14 27 51.9
10-14 ft. 5 20 25.0
March
Shot Distance (5ft) FGM FGA FG%
Less Than 5 ft. 42 87 48.3
5-9 ft. 10 20 50.0
10-14 ft. 10 21 47.6
Uhm, you do know that the FG% is going down from Jan to March for Less than 5 ft. (56.8, 50.0, 48.3)
I think you just strengthened all our arguments for his inefficient finishing at the rim.
Going lower as the season progresses, that's no bueno.
How about you not realizing that we're talking about the difference of making 3 or 4 more shots in Feb ad Mar. It's not what you're trying to make it out to be. In the end Rose should see more space playing with this team. This is not a case of him just missing wide open layups. Teams actually FOCUS on trying to stop Rose from penetrating.
On the Season Rose avg'd 51% on Drives to the rim but drove about 9 times a game. We didn't have anyone close to that level of aggressiveness. We didn't have a SHOT at getting anyone on that level either. So what would your solution have been???
For all that is said about what Rose can't do these are things he can do at a high level that we needed.
Pick And Roll Ball Handler
FT Score And One SF TO
Player Team GP Poss Freq PPP PTS FGM FGA FG% eFG% Freq Freq Freq Freq Freq Percentile
Reggie Jackson DET 79 896 55.9% 0.88 785 318 715 44.5 47.6 7.9% 14.2% 7.3% 2.0% 41.3% 77.2
Damian Lillard POR 75 815 43.0% 0.92 751 259 628 41.2 47.8 11.4% 13.6% 9.6% 2.3% 40.9% 84.8
Kemba Walker CHA 81 789 46.7% 0.89 705 261 629 41.5 46.2 10.1% 10.9% 8.4% 0.9% 41.8% 80.7
Chris Paul LAC 74 749 51.9% 0.94 705 284 604 47.0 50.3 7.7% 12.6% 3.9% 0.9% 44.5% 89.0
Russ Westbrook OKC 80 722 35.4% 0.85 614 219 502 43.6 47.7 12.7% 19.9% 10.7% 2.2% 40.6% 70.7
John Wall WAS 77 721 40.2% 0.73 524 225 560 40.2 42.3 5.0% 17.9% 4.4% 0.7% 35.4% 38.3
CJ McCollum POR 80 642 37.4% 0.92 593 243 521 46.6 50.4 6.7% 13.7% 5.9% 1.6% 43.0% 85.5
Jrue Holiday NOP 65 618 51.7% 0.87 536 213 501 42.5 45.6 8.3% 12.6% 7.1% 1.9% 40.8% 75.2
James Harden HOU 82 606 25.9% 0.97 588 165 370 44.6 49.2 20.0% 21.5% 17.7% 2.6% 44.6% 91.4
DeMar DeRozan TOR 78 593 32.4% 0.99 588 214 445 48.1 48.3 17.0% 10.8% 15.3% 3.0% 49.7% 92.8
Kyle Lowry TOR 77 582 35.7% 0.86 502 171 423 40.4 46.0 12.5% 16.2% 10.8% 1.4% 40.2% 73.8
Isaiah Thomas BOS 82 568 31.0% 0.86 487 159 412 38.6 42.6 14.4% 14.6% 10.2% 1.6% 40.8% 72.8
Dennis Schroder ATL 80 568 54.4% 0.71 403 158 417 37.9 39.9 8.6% 19.4% 6.9% 1.4% 34.9% 34.8
Derrick Rose CHI 66 563 43.5% 0.84 474 207 466 44.4 44.8 7.6% 12.3% 7.3% 2.7% 41.4% 68.3
http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/playtype/ball-handler/?sort=Poss&dir=1Drives
Player Team GP MIN DRIVES FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% PTS PTS% PASS PASS% AST AST%
Eric Bledsoe PHX 31 34.2 11.7 2.3 4.9 46.4 1.6 1.9 86.4 6.2 53.2 4.5 38.0 1.1 9.4
Isaiah Thomas BOS 81 32.2 11.7 2.6 5.8 45.4 2.4 2.9 83.7 7.6 65.2 3.8 32.7 1.0 8.9
DeMar DeRozan TOR 77 35.9 11.6 2.9 5.8 50.6 2.8 3.4 83.0 8.7 74.4 3.7 31.4 0.9 8.1
Jeff Teague ATL 79 28.5 11.1 2.4 5.2 45.7 1.7 2.0 82.9 6.4 57.5 4.0 36.3 0.9 8.3
Ish Smith PHI 77 29.1 11.1 2.2 5.0 44.6 0.6 1.0 63.5 5.1 45.6 5.1 45.6 1.4 12.6
Reggie Jackson DET 79 30.7 10.6 3.0 6.1 49.0 1.5 1.7 86.9 7.5 70.0 2.9 27.3 0.9 8.2
Tyreke Evans NOP 25 30.6 10.4 2.3 5.2 43.8 1.9 2.2 85.5 6.4 61.7 3.2 30.3 0.8 8.0
Russell Westbrook OKC 80 34.4 10.1 2.4 4.8 50.7 2.3 2.8 82.1 7.1 70.7 3.2 31.5 1.1 11.0
Rajon Rondo SAC 71 35.4 9.9 2.1 4.1 50.7 0.4 0.7 54.2 4.5 45.7 4.3 43.0 1.4 14.1
Jrue Holiday NOP 65 28.2 9.8 2.7 5.3 50.4 1.6 1.9 86.1 6.9 71.0 3.0 30.7 0.8 8.7
Damian Lillard POR 75 35.7 9.8 2.7 5.5 48.2 2.5 2.7 91.1 7.8 79.4 2.4 24.3 0.8 7.9
Kyle Lowry TOR 76 36.9 9.5 1.9 4.4 44.3 1.5 1.8 84.2 5.4 56.4 3.4 35.3 1.1 11.5
Goran Dragic MIA 72 32.8 9.4 1.8 3.4 52.8 0.7 1.0 70.4 4.4 46.2 4.6 48.8 1.3 14.1
James Harden HOU 82 38.1 9.4 2.1 4.3 49.6 2.9 3.4 86.0 7.2 76.6 2.5 26.5 0.9 9.2
Derrick Rose CHI 66 31.8 8.9 2.8 5.5 51.0 1.3 1.7 76.1 6.9 76.9 2.1 23.3 0.6 6.5
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/drives/?sort=DRIVES&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=G
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