CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

He is making 15 mil and has averaged playing 46 games a year over 10 years. The number of games per year average isn't a fluke or a bump in numbers either. He had one year where he was out for the entire season and he had 1 year when he hit the 81 game mark. I don't see anyway that he is anything close to a priority signing for Phil. Maybe if he wants to take a prove himself Jennings deal but then it seems like he goes to Houston to play for his Dad's buddy.

don't worry ... if we get him then nix will clearly explain how he will be super healthy this season and there is no way to predict health, "anyone can get injured!" yada yada yada ... and you will be right there cheering him on a defending the regime.

Nix and I were very much at odds during the entire D'Antoni tenure. I wasn't a fan and saw the Gallo pick as nepotism and I hated that at least one gm, Rod Thorn?, guaranteed the Knicks were taking Gallo several days before the draft. There were reports that Gallo's back was bad before the draft.... Don't get me started with that era.

Yeah some guys weren't here for the old MDA WARS! LOL! We're family tho. Disagreement is fine.

As for me saying Gallo would be "superhealthy" I haven't said that about Rose, Noah, Jennings or Melo!!! When it comes to injury for these players it's not destiny that they will get injured. This is probably a good time to be getting these players. All of them have had time to heal, rehab and build up their conditioning. It takes time after a surgery to rebuild to full strength.

All I've said is the Knicks are prepared to deal with the need to keep minutes down and give rest. Most injuries come from fatigue. Not including landing on someone's foot and turning an ankle or getting smashed in the face. I'm not in favor of bringing in Gallo. Just so we're clear.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

He is making 15 mil and has averaged playing 46 games a year over 10 years. The number of games per year average isn't a fluke or a bump in numbers either. He had one year where he was out for the entire season and he had 1 year when he hit the 81 game mark. I don't see anyway that he is anything close to a priority signing for Phil. Maybe if he wants to take a prove himself Jennings deal but then it seems like he goes to Houston to play for his Dad's buddy.

don't worry ... if we get him then nix will clearly explain how he will be super healthy this season and there is no way to predict health, "anyone can get injured!" yada yada yada ... and you will be right there cheering him on a defending the regime.

Nix and I were very much at odds during the entire D'Antoni tenure. I wasn't a fan and saw the Gallo pick as nepotism and I hated that at least one gm, Rod Thorn?, guaranteed the Knicks were taking Gallo several days before the draft. There were reports that Gallo's back was bad before the draft.... Don't get me started with that era.

Yeah some guys weren't here for the old MDA WARS! LOL! We're family tho. Disagreement is fine.

As for me saying Gallo would be "superhealthy" I haven't said that about Rose, Noah, Jennings or Melo!!! When it comes to injury for these players it's not destiny that they will get injured. This is probably a good time to be getting these players. All of them have had time to heal, rehab and build up their conditioning. It takes time after a surgery to rebuild to full strength.

All I've said is the Knicks are prepared to deal with the need to keep minutes down and give rest. Most injuries come from fatigue. Not including landing on someone's foot and turning an ankle or getting smashed in the face. I'm not in favor of bringing in Gallo. Just so we're clear.

why aren't you in favor of bringing him in? nothing else you said addresses that.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

He is making 15 mil and has averaged playing 46 games a year over 10 years. The number of games per year average isn't a fluke or a bump in numbers either. He had one year where he was out for the entire season and he had 1 year when he hit the 81 game mark. I don't see anyway that he is anything close to a priority signing for Phil. Maybe if he wants to take a prove himself Jennings deal but then it seems like he goes to Houston to play for his Dad's buddy.

don't worry ... if we get him then nix will clearly explain how he will be super healthy this season and there is no way to predict health, "anyone can get injured!" yada yada yada ... and you will be right there cheering him on a defending the regime.

Nix and I were very much at odds during the entire D'Antoni tenure. I wasn't a fan and saw the Gallo pick as nepotism and I hated that at least one gm, Rod Thorn?, guaranteed the Knicks were taking Gallo several days before the draft. There were reports that Gallo's back was bad before the draft.... Don't get me started with that era.

Yeah some guys weren't here for the old MDA WARS! LOL! We're family tho. Disagreement is fine.

As for me saying Gallo would be "superhealthy" I haven't said that about Rose, Noah, Jennings or Melo!!! When it comes to injury for these players it's not destiny that they will get injured. This is probably a good time to be getting these players. All of them have had time to heal, rehab and build up their conditioning. It takes time after a surgery to rebuild to full strength.

All I've said is the Knicks are prepared to deal with the need to keep minutes down and give rest. Most injuries come from fatigue. Not including landing on someone's foot and turning an ankle or getting smashed in the face. I'm not in favor of bringing in Gallo. Just so we're clear.

why aren't you in favor of bringing him in? nothing else you said addresses that.

why do you want him?

read the op why don't you.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

He is making 15 mil and has averaged playing 46 games a year over 10 years. The number of games per year average isn't a fluke or a bump in numbers either. He had one year where he was out for the entire season and he had 1 year when he hit the 81 game mark. I don't see anyway that he is anything close to a priority signing for Phil. Maybe if he wants to take a prove himself Jennings deal but then it seems like he goes to Houston to play for his Dad's buddy.

don't worry ... if we get him then nix will clearly explain how he will be super healthy this season and there is no way to predict health, "anyone can get injured!" yada yada yada ... and you will be right there cheering him on a defending the regime.

Nix and I were very much at odds during the entire D'Antoni tenure. I wasn't a fan and saw the Gallo pick as nepotism and I hated that at least one gm, Rod Thorn?, guaranteed the Knicks were taking Gallo several days before the draft. There were reports that Gallo's back was bad before the draft.... Don't get me started with that era.

Yeah some guys weren't here for the old MDA WARS! LOL! We're family tho. Disagreement is fine.

As for me saying Gallo would be "superhealthy" I haven't said that about Rose, Noah, Jennings or Melo!!! When it comes to injury for these players it's not destiny that they will get injured. This is probably a good time to be getting these players. All of them have had time to heal, rehab and build up their conditioning. It takes time after a surgery to rebuild to full strength.

All I've said is the Knicks are prepared to deal with the need to keep minutes down and give rest. Most injuries come from fatigue. Not including landing on someone's foot and turning an ankle or getting smashed in the face. I'm not in favor of bringing in Gallo. Just so we're clear.

why aren't you in favor of bringing him in? nothing else you said addresses that.

why do you want him?

read the op why don't you.

I did ... it made me laugh and I thought that I would give you another shot.

nope. i am, as you have observed, consistent.

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

He is making 15 mil and has averaged playing 46 games a year over 10 years. The number of games per year average isn't a fluke or a bump in numbers either. He had one year where he was out for the entire season and he had 1 year when he hit the 81 game mark. I don't see anyway that he is anything close to a priority signing for Phil. Maybe if he wants to take a prove himself Jennings deal but then it seems like he goes to Houston to play for his Dad's buddy.

don't worry ... if we get him then nix will clearly explain how he will be super healthy this season and there is no way to predict health, "anyone can get injured!" yada yada yada ... and you will be right there cheering him on a defending the regime.

Nix and I were very much at odds during the entire D'Antoni tenure. I wasn't a fan and saw the Gallo pick as nepotism and I hated that at least one gm, Rod Thorn?, guaranteed the Knicks were taking Gallo several days before the draft. There were reports that Gallo's back was bad before the draft.... Don't get me started with that era.

Yeah some guys weren't here for the old MDA WARS! LOL! We're family tho. Disagreement is fine.

As for me saying Gallo would be "superhealthy" I haven't said that about Rose, Noah, Jennings or Melo!!! When it comes to injury for these players it's not destiny that they will get injured. This is probably a good time to be getting these players. All of them have had time to heal, rehab and build up their conditioning. It takes time after a surgery to rebuild to full strength.

All I've said is the Knicks are prepared to deal with the need to keep minutes down and give rest. Most injuries come from fatigue. Not including landing on someone's foot and turning an ankle or getting smashed in the face. I'm not in favor of bringing in Gallo. Just so we're clear.

why aren't you in favor of bringing him in? nothing else you said addresses that.

why do you want him?

read the op why don't you.

I did ... it made me laugh and I thought that I would give you another shot.

nope. i am, as you have observed, consistent.

consistent? I wouldn't call it that ... I would call it stubborn just like MDA :-)

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

dk7th wrote:bringing danilo gallinari back to madison square garden.

here's the west predictions:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17131591/2016-summer-forecast-west-standings

and here is the roster-- please pay attention to the age of the roster:

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/den

gallinari returning to the knicks in 2017-18. it makes total sense. he's in his prime and will remain so, and could be brought in to platoon-- and, yes, eventually replace grandpa melo.

by that time kp6 will have bulked up enough to be a tim duncan hybrid pf/center and both he and gallinari could run the **** out of the triangle.

obviously gallinari's deplorable injury history would have given pause, but the knicks, it seems, have a history of giving contracts to players with questionable injury history or injury questions.

however, if phil jackson wanted gallinari and gallinari was interested in returning to new york, how would you feel about that move?

noah, who is signed through 2019/2020, and could help teach these other two guys as passers and defenders
kp6, destined for somewhere between really good and solid and greatness, great defender
gallinari, a perfect triangle player, decent defender, underutilized playmaking ability, would be an ideal fit with these other two

draft pick summer of 2017 too

Is Gallinari playing point guard?

If so, I approve.

there will be triangle point guards available. guys who can make a decent entry pass, defend the position, hit a corner three. the three players i am citing represent an inside out and elbow-centric game.

There is literally no chance the Knicks will spend significant cap room on another SF with the injury history you cite.

And if he wasn't drafted by the knicks, this wouldn't even occur to anyone.

Non-starter.

so first it's "we need a point guard" and i say that being a triangle point guard is of secondary importance.
then second it's his sketchy injury history and cap room.

Yes, it's both these things.

But you're also clinging to past assumptions. The Knicks new head coach and their offseason make it perfectly clear the notion of a triangle game manager point guard is no longer the organization's philosophy.

my response is we are spending 40 million on 3 injury-prone players this season alone, with melo thrown in there as well. his contract for his option year is peanuts as of the new cap.

So the idea is to double down?

That isn't a endorsement, that's a rational.

is there another, third position you want to shift to given these facts?

No, it's still point guard. I think you've missed the obvious and are citing outmoded priorities.