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Welpee
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7/8/2016  9:38 AM
Plus how did we stab Lopez in the back?
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7/8/2016  10:06 AM
Welpee wrote:Plus how did we stab Lopez in the back?

He has not changed the address for his comic book mailings and Dolan is reportedly spending more time on the toilet with them.
RoPez perhaps came for the money, came for Triangle, came to be with his brother, and came for the bright lights of the big city.
Chicago is not a cultural wasteland and while I have no idea what in the hell they are doing with Rondo, and now Wade, they should be an interesting team.

Wade is a ticket selling starphuch. Is butler moving to the 3? Do they start Rondo and Wade?
Im befuddled.
SupremeCommander
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7/8/2016  10:28 AM
well look at it this way; we'll be happy to have the pick if Noah and Rose play 30 games combined
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7/8/2016  11:56 AM
crzymdups wrote:Uh, for one thing - we haven't played the season yet. We don't know what the pick will be.

For another thing - you can get a pretty good player with pick 22 and on.

Kyle Lowry pick 24 2006 says hi!

Serge Ibaka pick 24 says hello, don't blame the Durant thing on me

Jimmy Butler pick 30 2011 say hellooooooo

Hassan Whiteside pick 33 says hey

Draymond Green pick 35 says shalom

Taj Gibson pick 26 says hey there

Courtney Lee pick 22 says hi, also I'm a Knick now

Bobby Portis pick 22 2015 says hi!

Solomon Hill pick 23 2013 says hi!

The Plumlee brothers say hi!

Kenneth Faried pick 22 2011 says hi

I mean... do I really have to go on?

Don't stop!!! Its quite good!!
newyorker4ever
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7/8/2016  12:27 PM
Malcolm wrote:After all the historical angst on this board about not trading #1 picks . . .
what good is the 2017 #1 pick now (?)

If Knicks are top 4 in the East next year . . . that's a #22 overall player.

Wouldn't it have been better to trade that to the Bulls for Rose . . .
instead of stabbing lottery pick Robin Lopez in the back (?)

Some players that were drafted in the 20's.
E.Fournier--20
Z.Randolph--20
K.Faried--22
R.Rondo--21
G.Dieng--21
R.Jackson--24
L.Sprewell--24
W.Chandler--23
N.Batum--25
R.Gobert--27
K.Lowry--24
S.Ibaka--24
T.Parker--29

There's many more names that are starters or 2nd unit guys but i got bored.
meloanyk
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7/8/2016  12:43 PM
#1 can be used in several ways. Offer #1 and Rose for Westbrook to ensure a top four spot. After getting rejected, tell the European scouts to look far and wide for a draft and stash if the pick is beyond twenty. My guess is Knicks will be drafting around 18th given my expected win total
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7/8/2016  1:24 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
Malcolm wrote:After all the historical angst on this board about not trading #1 picks . . .
what good is the 2017 #1 pick now (?)

If Knicks are top 4 in the East next year . . . that's a #22 overall player.

Wouldn't it have been better to trade that to the Bulls for Rose . . .
instead of stabbing lottery pick Robin Lopez in the back (?)

Some players that were drafted in the 20's.
E.Fournier--20
Z.Randolph--20
K.Faried--22
R.Rondo--21
G.Dieng--21
R.Jackson--24
L.Sprewell--24
W.Chandler--23
N.Batum--25
R.Gobert--27
K.Lowry--24
S.Ibaka--24
T.Parker--29

There's many more names that are starters or 2nd unit guys but i got bored.

This is perhaps one of the oddest ongoing debates in sports, and it has a simple answer.

Yes, of course you can find a very good player in the 20s.

And yes, of course it is unlikely.

Those two things can be true at the same time, and as it turns out, are.
meloshouldgo
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7/8/2016  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2016  4:56 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Malcolm wrote:After all the historical angst on this board about not trading #1 picks . . .
what good is the 2017 #1 pick now (?)

If Knicks are top 4 in the East next year . . . that's a #22 overall player.

Wouldn't it have been better to trade that to the Bulls for Rose . . .
instead of stabbing lottery pick Robin Lopez in the back (?)

Some players that were drafted in the 20's.
E.Fournier--20
Z.Randolph--20
K.Faried--22
R.Rondo--21
G.Dieng--21
R.Jackson--24
L.Sprewell--24
W.Chandler--23
N.Batum--25
R.Gobert--27
K.Lowry--24
S.Ibaka--24
T.Parker--29

There's many more names that are starters or 2nd unit guys but i got bored.

This is perhaps one of the oddest ongoing debates in sports, and it has a simple answer.

Yes, of course you can find a very good player in the 20s.

And yes, of course it is unlikely.

Those two things can be true at the same time, and as it turns out, are.

Yes it's easy to point out the exceptions. If you do a percentage analysis of the ones that pan out and the ones that don't, it would be a more complete picture and a much better framework for decision making.

I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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7/8/2016  6:27 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
Malcolm wrote:After all the historical angst on this board about not trading #1 picks . . .
what good is the 2017 #1 pick now (?)

If Knicks are top 4 in the East next year . . . that's a #22 overall player.

Wouldn't it have been better to trade that to the Bulls for Rose . . .
instead of stabbing lottery pick Robin Lopez in the back (?)

Some players that were drafted in the 20's.
E.Fournier--20
Z.Randolph--20
K.Faried--22
R.Rondo--21
G.Dieng--21
R.Jackson--24
L.Sprewell--24
W.Chandler--23
N.Batum--25
R.Gobert--27
K.Lowry--24
S.Ibaka--24
T.Parker--29

There's many more names that are starters or 2nd unit guys but i got bored.

This is perhaps one of the oddest ongoing debates in sports, and it has a simple answer.

Yes, of course you can find a very good player in the 20s.

And yes, of course it is unlikely.

Those two things can be true at the same time, and as it turns out, are.

Yes it's easy to point out the exceptions. If you do a percentage analysis of the ones that pan out and the ones that don't, it would be a more complete picture and a much better framework for decision making.

What's the success rate of teams that tank? Percentage-wise?

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Sangfroid
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7/8/2016  10:23 PM
Knicksfan wrote:In a deep draft, you always have guys dropping. We will get a nice player if we do our homework and keep the picks.

Don't forget about the new crop of international players going in the first round. It will surely fatten up the pickings at the bottom of the round.

"We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
smackeddog
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7/9/2016  3:29 AM
Malcolm wrote:After all the historical angst on this board about not trading #1 picks . . .
what good is the 2017 #1 pick now (?)

If Knicks are top 4 in the East next year . . . that's a #22 overall player.

Wouldn't it have been better to trade that to the Bulls for Rose . . .
instead of stabbing lottery pick Robin Lopez in the back (?)

Because if anything goes wrong (injuries, turns out the team doesn't fit together etc), you're covered- what part of the aftermath of the eddy Curry trade did you not understand?
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