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meloanyk
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7/7/2016  12:54 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:If the Heat match Johnson's offer from the Nets, they'll have a number of PGs, but no true SG from what I can see.

No fault of their own, but Bosh will be a weight around their neck. Their starting small forward (I assume it is Winslow)is a limited offensive player...Whiteside, despite his strengths, has never been known as a team player on the court (his lack of passing is always being noted), and it looks like Riley will miss out on adding a top FA from another team to the Heat roster this year.

I might be missing something, but it does not seem as if the Heat "got it right" if you look at the big picture.

I think we have legit chance at Westbrook but also think other teams like Miami and Chicago are lining up to pursue. Riley likes stars especially ones who are athletic and in their prime. Think he may be putting together a young athletic group to sell to Westbrooka and maybe Ibaka

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7/7/2016  12:55 PM
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7/7/2016  1:09 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/ethan-j-skolnick/article88119252.html

Thought this was a good write up.

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7/7/2016  1:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/7/2016  1:13 PM
Do the Heat even have its draft picks after the Goran Dragic move? That will determine if letting Wade walk was a good move or not. Because if they do have their pick, particularly their 2017 pick, they are in an enviable position. Wish we had the balls to have begun the rebuilding process and invest in the draft, especially in a draft that is alleged to be as stocked as this upcoming one is.
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7/7/2016  1:37 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:You reward loyalty and sacrifice...Bosh and Whiteside get rewarded, but Wade does not??

Wade went above or beyond for the Heat on the court, and off the court, as a shadow GM who brought their big 3 together.

Sorry, he deserved to be treated a little differently by Riley. Loyalty works both ways, but then we already know about Riley.


Hope Riles gets no more players after this stunt
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7/7/2016  1:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/7/2016  1:58 PM
Offer was two years, 20mm per= $40,000,000

"Sacrifice"........Wade was on board to "Win". Lebron and Bosh both took less than market deals.
Im not seeing "Greed" but "Pride". Both Riles and Wade both collided. Just heard on ESPN a reporter that spoke with Wades mother and it was about Wade wanting to feel valued.
Riles had thrown out the $10mm in the even they got Durant. THat is logic but also offensive to Wade as Durant gets higher valuation to the franchise and perhaps Wade felt like he should be a priority. If Wade wanted to play with Bosh and wanted him back then that too came at a cost.

As far as Future free agents, I don't think this hurts them. They'll go after westbrook like everyone else but I doubt Russ goes "Gee, look what they did to Wade!!". 40mm over two years for a 35 year old on his last legs is not Kobe money, but its ALL MIAMI HAD TO SPEND!!! Whiteside, Dragic and Bosh all make big money. Bosh is untradeable, Whiteside commitment was already in place, and Dragic deal is not crazy.

2 years, 20mm a year is not awful or disrespectful unless you want to tank like Lakers did. I think you just have two guys with big ego's and reality is this move is a good one for BOTH!!!

That's my opinion.

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7/7/2016  2:51 PM
Ryan Anderson got 4 years, 80mm??? Whoa.
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7/7/2016  3:18 PM
Report: Pat Riley never called Dwyane Wade during free agency that took Wade to Bulls

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/07/07/report-pat-riley-never-called-dwyane-wade-during-free-agency-that-took-wade-to-bulls/


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7/7/2016  3:39 PM
martin wrote:Report: Pat Riley never called Dwyane Wade during free agency that took Wade to Bulls

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/07/07/report-pat-riley-never-called-dwyane-wade-during-free-agency-that-took-wade-to-bulls/


He probably faxed him.
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7/8/2016  7:29 AM
Awe, sounds like teenage girls....."OMG, Like Riley, you would think he would have called me or what?" Was he in touch with his agent? Was Wade on vacation out of the country? I mean, c'mon now, all grown men.

Bottom line could be Riles is HAPPY Wade left, 35 year old divas on their last deal might be just an albatross type deal.

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7/8/2016  10:41 AM
Reading that after taxes, Wade only making 3.1mm more in Chicago.
Wonder if Riles wanted him gone, but did not want to push him out the door?
They made an offer of 40mil over two years.
Is wade that vain? Riles that stubborn? Did Wade really want to be there?

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7/8/2016  10:43 AM
Nalod wrote:Reading that after taxes, Wade only making 3.1mm more in Chicago.
Wonder if Riles wanted him gone, but did not want to push him out the door?
They made an offer of 40mil over two years.
Is wade that vain? Riles that stubborn? Did Wade really want to be there?

If Riles had a hard line budget, and maybe $40M over 2 years was it, why offer the $10M (if that was true)?

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7/8/2016  11:36 AM
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Reading that after taxes, Wade only making 3.1mm more in Chicago.
Wonder if Riles wanted him gone, but did not want to push him out the door?
They made an offer of 40mil over two years.
Is wade that vain? Riles that stubborn? Did Wade really want to be there?

If Riles had a hard line budget, and maybe $40M over 2 years was it, why offer the $10M (if that was true)?

There was Durant to consider with that figure. Going from what has been written there was a time line where the numbers had to play out after Durant made his decision. IN fact, whiteside would have taken 9mm less.
I think Wade from what I have read was tired of not being a high priority and felt slighted. Im not sure the 10mm was a true offer. Is it logical Riles would Double it? Did Wade really want too eat cap and be the man on a sub par team wearing himself out? What did happen, there was a $20mm per year offer. Did Riley make Wade go out and set his market price, and while doing so piss wade off? Play for more money in Denver on a non playoff team next to Mundiay? Play for the Bucks and not be the man?

"Never forgot where I came from", Its got a nice ring to it and Wade can get some love playing on weird roster team now. Maybe Riley pushed all Wades ego buttons to get him to leave and not care if he has to take some of the "Heat" for it. Wade looks bad as does Riley. I say Heat got it right because when players are beyond their value and want to be paid in arrears, you mess up the future. We all think "Wade was due" but we were not there when he "Sacrificed". Was he promised more money, or did he enjoy not having to carry the team on his back, play with his buddies, go the finals 4 more times, pick up two more rings and extend his branding a few more years? Sacrifice?

Wade filmed a realty show a few years ago about his flirting with Chicago and the emotions of a nasty child custody situation made very public and in the end he didn't choose family, he choose to stay in Miami, play with his superfriends and bath in the vanity that comes with winning! Its seductive and wealth accumulating. Wade is an ass. Riley is bound to the Heat. Wade is not Kobe. Heat are not Lakers.

My guess Wades deal won't be a good one for the Bulls. In time they'll shower Wade with Love, retire his number and all that goes with it.

We talking 3mm after taxes. Pride has a price.

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7/8/2016  11:45 AM
From what I understand the Heat made an ooffer that was less than the Bulls'. I think Wade evaluated this incorrectly. He would have made so much riskless profit after he retired in Miami if he had just stayed. I'm sure he'll make some moving forward. But it changes things when you leave. Everyone loves Ewing but you always kinda remember him forcing his way out when you remember everything else...
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7/8/2016  11:53 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:From what I understand the Heat made an ooffer that was less than the Bulls'. I think Wade evaluated this incorrectly. He would have made so much riskless profit after he retired in Miami if he had just stayed. I'm sure he'll make some moving forward. But it changes things when you leave. Everyone loves Ewing but you always kinda remember him forcing his way out when you remember everything else...

I suppose there is some truth to that if he wanted to retire into the Miami community and say relevant there. Thing is, he has enough money and brand on a national scale, or at least he thinks he does, he is not thinking about that. I mean, he co-hosted with Kelly and the media storm he created by moving to the bulls is a bit intoxicating for anyone.
When he flirted with Bulls few years back and filmed the never to be seen drama (reports was it was lame and fabricated) it turned me off. He pulled the family card then but never followed thru on it. I don't begrudge him for his decision, but using that aspect publically and commercializing it was not cool.
MAybe he sees himself with Shaq, Charles and Kenny on NBA broadcasts, or the next Morning show host. I don't hate the dude, just not feeling sorry for his "disrespect".

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7/8/2016  12:01 PM
Nalod wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:From what I understand the Heat made an ooffer that was less than the Bulls'. I think Wade evaluated this incorrectly. He would have made so much riskless profit after he retired in Miami if he had just stayed. I'm sure he'll make some moving forward. But it changes things when you leave. Everyone loves Ewing but you always kinda remember him forcing his way out when you remember everything else...

I suppose there is some truth to that if he wanted to retire into the Miami community and say relevant there. Thing is, he has enough money and brand on a national scale, or at least he thinks he does, he is not thinking about that. I mean, he co-hosted with Kelly and the media storm he created by moving to the bulls is a bit intoxicating for anyone.
When he flirted with Bulls few years back and filmed the never to be seen drama (reports was it was lame and fabricated) it turned me off. He pulled the family card then but never followed thru on it. I don't begrudge him for his decision, but using that aspect publically and commercializing it was not cool.
MAybe he sees himself with Shaq, Charles and Kenny on NBA broadcasts, or the next Morning show host. I don't hate the dude, just not feeling sorry for his "disrespect".

I'm with you there for sure...

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