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WaltLongmire
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7/6/2016  5:09 PM
We (including myself) are all overlooking Holiday, by the way. Good size...good defender...decent shooter.

He might be a sleeper for us this season.

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7/6/2016  5:10 PM
nixluva wrote:
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Yeah, that's a nice cop out but there is always ways to create cap space. Gallo at the money NY was capable of paying him is a good trade chip to have.

Liked Gallo but this is not necessarily a big loss. The Knicks are the ones with the real cap numbers so speculating that they could do this or that is hard to verify. Just look at the way Phil and his staff have done things and it's hard to say they aren't capable of counting. They did a pretty good job using their cap and keeping flexibility.

exactly the kind of post I expected.

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7/6/2016  5:12 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:We (including myself) are all overlooking Holiday, by the way. Good size...good defender...decent shooter.

He might be a sleeper for us this season.

He's got to be a sleeper if our bench is going to be respectable. He's the primary backup wing. Lance will play a lot of smallball 4, Jennings will slide over to the 2 from time to time just to get some more minutes when Melo is out and scoring is needed, but Holiday will probably be the only true backup wing in the rotation. It's a great opportunity for him, that's for sure.

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7/6/2016  5:17 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:We (including myself) are all overlooking Holiday, by the way. Good size...good defender...decent shooter.

He might be a sleeper for us this season.


How can you tell any of this when he hasn't played that much? His entire career is a little over the minutes Gallo played in as a rookie. Keep in mind Gallo was in the DL to start the year. Also, his good 33pt shooting everyone points to was 60 shots for the bulls. For his entire career he has shot the ball under 33% from three. He doesn't rebound, pass, stl, or blk shots either. The only thing he has shown is that he has good size and athleticism. J.P. Tokoto has the same qualities and he looks horrible on the SL squad.

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7/6/2016  5:23 PM
Heard K.C. Johnson in an interview yesterday who is with the Chicago Tribune covering the Bulls and he was really high on Justin Holiday. He was not just a throw-in. He came on late with the Bulls and really made a good impression. They wanted to keep him. He was described as a long, athletic wing who has a high motor and likes to run on the break and is a very good finisher (unlike Gallo who struggled finishing at the rim). He also has improved his 3 point shot and is an active defender. I say he cracks our rotation and has more of an impact than Gallo had last year. Horny is already high on him.
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7/6/2016  5:25 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Heard K.C. Johnson in an interview yesterday who is with the Chicago Tribune covering the Bulls and he was really high on Justin Holiday. He was not just a throw-in. He came on late with the Bulls and really made a good impression. They wanted to keep him. He was described as a long, athletic wing who has a high motor and likes to run on the break and is a very good finisher (unlike Gallo who struggled finishing at the rim). He also has improved his 3 point shot and is an active defender. I say he cracks our rotation and has more of an impact than Gallo had last year. Horny is already high on him.

that could just be him hanging out with Phil a bit too much, never know. Phil knows his weed

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7/6/2016  5:30 PM
Yeah, Holiday seems really promising to me. I could see him being a Kent Bazemore-lite for us off the bench.
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7/6/2016  5:36 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:

Yeah, that's a nice cop out but there is always ways to create cap space. Gallo at the money NY was capable of paying him is a good trade chip to have.

Liked Gallo but this is not necessarily a big loss. The Knicks are the ones with the real cap numbers so speculating that they could do this or that is hard to verify. Just look at the way Phil and his staff have done things and it's hard to say they aren't capable of counting. They did a pretty good job using their cap and keeping flexibility.

exactly the kind of post I expected.


My post is logical and reasonable. Phil and his staff have done a lot of work on this roster respecting the cap as well and they also have considered new players who can provide the needed skills in their opinion. What exactly is your issue with what the Knicks have done? I think you have to at least acknowledge that they are weighing cost and benefit going forward. Sometimes you have to make tough choices but as long as they are smart decisions I don't see a real problem. If you've got something specific to say in opposition to my points then spit it out. No need to be vague and passive aggressive.
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7/6/2016  5:39 PM
Galloway had his moments, but not enough of them last season to keep him here. Glad this gives the Knicks some cap flexibility.
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7/6/2016  5:43 PM
Geez, I just saw how much money the Pelicans gave to Solomon Hill and E'Twaun Moore. Yikes.
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7/6/2016  5:43 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Galloway had his moments, but not enough of them last season to keep him here. Glad this gives the Knicks some cap flexibility.

Agree. Bring on the yunguns

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7/6/2016  5:47 PM
Once it's official, let's make sure we start up a Langston Galloway Appreciation Thread. If any kid deserves it, it's him. Underdog and hard worker. I'm happy for Gallo for getting a contract.
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7/6/2016  5:48 PM
Gallo is a feel good story. Would still like to bring him back if Pelicans don't finalize the deal, but losing him won't make much of an impact to the record. I've seen the stats about Galloway being in our best lineups last season, but that's more about the sad state of our backcourt. Defense was nice. Shot broke during the season.

He was OUR guy, but very replaceable.

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7/6/2016  6:02 PM
nixluva wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:

Yeah, that's a nice cop out but there is always ways to create cap space. Gallo at the money NY was capable of paying him is a good trade chip to have.

Liked Gallo but this is not necessarily a big loss. The Knicks are the ones with the real cap numbers so speculating that they could do this or that is hard to verify. Just look at the way Phil and his staff have done things and it's hard to say they aren't capable of counting. They did a pretty good job using their cap and keeping flexibility.

exactly the kind of post I expected.


My post is logical and reasonable. Phil and his staff have done a lot of work on this roster respecting the cap as well and they also have considered new players who can provide the needed skills in their opinion. What exactly is your issue with what the Knicks have done? I think you have to at least acknowledge that they are weighing cost and benefit going forward. Sometimes you have to make tough choices but as long as they are smart decisions I don't see a real problem. If you've got something specific to say in opposition to my points then spit it out. No need to be vague and passive aggressive.

Is there one decision that Phil has made that you considered not smart. Gallo is a useful player especially given the amount the knicks would have to pay him.`To give up a player just for the hopes of getting another player is not smart especially when you can make room one way or another down the line.

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7/6/2016  6:11 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:We (including myself) are all overlooking Holiday, by the way. Good size...good defender...decent shooter.

He might be a sleeper for us this season.


How can you tell any of this when he hasn't played that much? His entire career is a little over the minutes Gallo played in as a rookie. Keep in mind Gallo was in the DL to start the year. Also, his good 33pt shooting everyone points to was 60 shots for the bulls. For his entire career he has shot the ball under 33% from three. He doesn't rebound, pass, stl, or blk shots either. The only thing he has shown is that he has good size and athleticism. J.P. Tokoto has the same qualities and he looks horrible on the SL squad.


Going by some things I heard on the radio from Chicago reporters.

As the person pointed out about last season, he was doing his stuff at the end of the year, but it was not garbage time for a team with no chance to make the playoffs. He had some good minutes and did some good things playing for a team that was fighting for a spot in the playoffs. It wasn't a Mardy Collins end of the year on a bad team showing.

I've seen clips and heard things, and figure he should be in the conversation.

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7/6/2016  6:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2016  6:18 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Is there one decision that Phil has made that you considered not smart. Gallo is a useful player especially given the amount the knicks would have to pay him.`To give up a player just for the hopes of getting another player is not smart especially when you can make room one way or another down the line.
Is there a decision Phil made that you didn't gripe about? And next season if we couldn't sign a player we needed because of cap room you'll be the first to complain about why Phil didn't create enough flexibility to sign players down the line.

You probably thought the world was coming to an end when we let Chris Copeland walk, didn't you?

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7/6/2016  6:22 PM
I didn't realize Galloway is from Louisiana. Good for him, I wish him well! He'll definitely get a chance to get significant minutes.
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7/6/2016  6:32 PM
Welpee wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Is there one decision that Phil has made that you considered not smart. Gallo is a useful player especially given the amount the knicks would have to pay him.`To give up a player just for the hopes of getting another player is not smart especially when you can make room one way or another down the line.
Is there a decision Phil made that you didn't gripe about? And next season if we couldn't sign a player we needed because of cap room you'll be the first to complain about why Phil didn't create enough flexibility to sign players down the line.

You probably thought the world was coming to an end when we let Chris Copeland walk, didn't you?


THX cuz that's pretty much what I was gonna write. Phil has been smart and reasonable and no every move isn't going to be great or one that we love, but he has his reasons for doing it, which seems to be lost on those complaining. If he did something without a good reason or that actually hurt the team, then sure go right ahead. We all know that there have been some bad moves, but on the whole Phil has been making more GOOD moves than bad.

NO GM/Prez is perfect so I don't get all the bytching about losing Gallo when he can possibly be replaced for less and allow the team to maintain its cap flexibility going forward. The same goes for losing DWill. I thought Lance was a very good resigning and he would've been hard to replace cuz he's a solid role player that defends. Gallo was a decent player that I had hope would be better next season, but the Knicks might be able to get good value out of cheaper players. Gallo was behind Rose, Lee and BJ. Is it unreasonable to think we could get decent production from a Baker or Randle?

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7/6/2016  6:36 PM
Nice that the hard working kid lands home but no great loss, claim was consistency in the mediocrity of versatility
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7/6/2016  6:36 PM
Welpee wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Is there one decision that Phil has made that you considered not smart. Gallo is a useful player especially given the amount the knicks would have to pay him.`To give up a player just for the hopes of getting another player is not smart especially when you can make room one way or another down the line.
Is there a decision Phil made that you didn't gripe about? And next season if we couldn't sign a player we needed because of cap room you'll be the first to complain about why Phil didn't create enough flexibility to sign players down the line.

You probably thought the world was coming to an end when we let Chris Copeland walk, didn't you?

Yes, I loved both the Lopez and O'Quinn moves. I liked Jennings as a back up player at $5m. I do not really like Jennings as a player but he can be a useful passer. It's still just a one year deal so the knicks will need to look for a back up pg next year. I give Phil credit when he deserves it but for the most part he has been undeserving.

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