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fitzfarm
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7/2/2016  11:30 PM
Would also like to see us make a run at Seth curry
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7/2/2016  11:41 PM
oj Mayo
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7/2/2016  11:50 PM
dwiley20 wrote:oj Mayo

Wasn't mayo banned from the league for roids, after 2nd offense?

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7/2/2016  11:53 PM
gr33d wrote:
dwiley20 wrote:oj Mayo

Wasn't mayo banned from the league for roids, after 2nd offense?

Yeah he can apply for reinstatement in two years.

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7/2/2016  11:58 PM
Is this bench realistic?

Jack
Galloway
Holiday
L. Thomas
O'Quinn
D. Lee/ Seraphin
Hernangomez

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7/3/2016  12:51 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:Next priority should be a back up pg...

Definitely.

Can we offer the room exception to Shved?

Also - my understanding of the Knicks cap was that they had $29m if they did not renounce the rights to DWill. Noah 16.5 and Lee 12.5 is 29m. So we still have DWill's rights, potentially.

Do we keep DWill or use his salary slot of $5m to go after a backup PG?

Phil is gong to have to beat the bushes to find a back up...Might need to find a vet who has made a ton of money but is looking to win now. This pg needs to be able to hold down the fort and run a team for a while just in case.....Not sure whats out there as I haven't looked yet but off the Top of my head...

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not sure if any of them will take a vet minimum but Phil will def have to be creative...

I wish Phil would get shved back he funking rocked

he rocked the 17 win team? was that him?

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7/3/2016  12:52 AM
dwiley20 wrote:oj Mayo

2 posts on OJ Mayo?

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7/3/2016  12:54 AM
martin wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:Next priority should be a back up pg...

Definitely.

Can we offer the room exception to Shved?

Also - my understanding of the Knicks cap was that they had $29m if they did not renounce the rights to DWill. Noah 16.5 and Lee 12.5 is 29m. So we still have DWill's rights, potentially.

Do we keep DWill or use his salary slot of $5m to go after a backup PG?

Phil is gong to have to beat the bushes to find a back up...Might need to find a vet who has made a ton of money but is looking to win now. This pg needs to be able to hold down the fort and run a team for a while just in case.....Not sure whats out there as I haven't looked yet but off the Top of my head...

Shved
Felton
Jack
Sessions

not sure if any of them will take a vet minimum but Phil will def have to be creative...

I wish Phil would get shved back he funking rocked

he rocked the 17 win team? was that him?

Might've only won 7 games if not for Shved so yea relatively speaking he did rock

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7/3/2016  1:25 AM
Lance Thomas, Kyle O'Quinn and Hernongomez is the front court rotation in all likelihood. The Knicks do need a backup at the PG position though.
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7/3/2016  1:38 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Uptown wrote:Next priority should be a back up pg...

Definitely.

Can we offer the room exception to Shved?

Also - my understanding of the Knicks cap was that they had $29m if they did not renounce the rights to DWill. Noah 16.5 and Lee 12.5 is 29m. So we still have DWill's rights, potentially.

Do we keep DWill or use his salary slot of $5m to go after a backup PG?

If we did that w would still need another forward

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7/3/2016  1:47 AM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Also dream back ups
C. Willy
Pf. Lee/stat
Sf. Dwill
Sg. Jamal
Pg. shved

What's with the fascination with Shved? He had some nice games Phil's first year after we tanked and were a God awful team but do you really view him as being that good. If he were, wouldn't he still be in the league and not playing in an obscure country in Europe?

He's playing in Russia — is that an obscure country? He's from Russia. And he's the highest paid player in Europe and a starter there. Good alternative to being a back up in the NBA.

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7/3/2016  2:14 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Also dream back ups
C. Willy
Pf. Lee/stat
Sf. Dwill
Sg. Jamal
Pg. shved

What's with the fascination with Shved? He had some nice games Phil's first year after we tanked and were a God awful team but do you really view him as being that good. If he were, wouldn't he still be in the league and not playing in an obscure country in Europe?

He's playing in Russia — is that an obscure country? He's from Russia. And he's the highest paid player in Europe and a starter there. Good alternative to being a back up in the NBA.

Yes I don't think he would have landed that contract if it wasn't for his play with the Knicks

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7/3/2016  3:10 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:

we are right there at the cap now. rest will be our own re-signees and vet minimums.

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7/3/2016  3:39 AM
For backup I'd go for Shved, not because I think he's a god, but because he'll be cheap and is capable.

Our roster is:

PG- Rose
SG- Courtney Lee, Holiday, (Galloway), (Vujacic)
SF- Melo, (Lance), (Early)
PF- KP, O'Quinn
C- Noah,(Amundson),(Seraphin)

According to

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/cap/

Our cap holds are:

Seraphin: $3.4mil
Galloway: $2.7mil
Lance: $2.1mil
Amundson: $2.1mil
Early: $1.2mil
Vujacic: $1mil

Trade exception: $1.6mil
Room exception: $2.9mil

Max space by renouncing cap holds etc: $9.3mil


Also remember we can still free up some more money by trading away O'Quinn ($4mil), or we could trade him for a back up PG or SG.

I think Derrick Williams is a priority, as we desperately need bench scoring and he can play PF or SF. Unfortunately I see a team like the Rockets or Sixers stumping up big money for him.

Can we match whatever Lance Thomas is offered? I think we have his early bird rights as he's been on the team 2 yrs, but I'm not sure?

I would keep Lou Amundson for his leadership & familiarity (and because he's cheap).

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7/3/2016  4:33 AM
smackeddog wrote:For backup I'd go for Shved, not because I think he's a god, but because he'll be cheap and is capable.

Our roster is:

PG- Rose
SG- Courtney Lee, Holiday, (Galloway), (Vujacic)
SF- Melo, (Lance), (Early)
PF- KP, O'Quinn
C- Noah,(Amundson),(Seraphin)

According to

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/cap/

Our cap holds are:

Seraphin: $3.4mil
Galloway: $2.7mil
Lance: $2.1mil
Amundson: $2.1mil
Early: $1.2mil
Vujacic: $1mil

Trade exception: $1.6mil
Room exception: $2.9mil

Max space by renouncing cap holds etc: $9.3mil


Also remember we can still free up some more money by trading away O'Quinn ($4mil), or we could trade him for a back up PG or SG.

I think Derrick Williams is a priority, as we desperately need bench scoring and he can play PF or SF. Unfortunately I see a team like the Rockets or Sixers stumping up big money for him.

Can we match whatever Lance Thomas is offered? I think we have his early bird rights as he's been on the team 2 yrs, but I'm not sure?

I would keep Lou Amundson for his leadership & familiarity (and because he's cheap).

Can we even offer Williams a contract? We can't match as he isn't restricted. But can we go over the cap to resign our own FA's? (And do we have to first resign our RFA's)

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7/3/2016  6:10 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
What's with the fascination with Shved? He had some nice games Phil's first year after we tanked and were a God awful team but do you really view him as being that good. If he were, wouldn't he still be in the league and not playing in an obscure country in Europe?

He's playing in Russia — is that an obscure country? He's from Russia. And he's the highest paid player in Europe and a starter there. Good alternative to being a back up in the NBA.

Shved is making 3.4m euros or 3.75m dollars per year in Russia. With Russia's income tax rate at 13 percent, it is like making $6m in New York. Plus, the cost of living there has now become relatively cheap. On the other hand, it is not unheard of for contracts there not to be honored, or for club officials to extract kickbacks on big player contracts. Plus Shved himself said that while he likes it in Russia, he likes the NBA style better and would return for the right opportunity.

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7/3/2016  10:02 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
SocraticBallin22 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Also dream back ups
C. Willy
Pf. Lee/stat
Sf. Dwill
Sg. Jamal
Pg. shved

What's with the fascination with Shved? He had some nice games Phil's first year after we tanked and were a God awful team but do you really view him as being that good. If he were, wouldn't he still be in the league and not playing in an obscure country in Europe?

He is the perfect back up for 15-20 a game and could be had cheap, he dominated Parker in this game he's still super young

That would be a good move.

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7/3/2016  10:22 AM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:This starting 5 is better than our starting 5 in 2012-13 that won 54 games.

All starters, besides KP, are veterans with tons of playoff experience. They are all battle tested and all they want to do is win at this point in their career. If the starting 5 can stay healthy, we are a playoff team and can win a round or two.. Also, we can compete against any starting 5 in the east, including Cleveland. The question mark is health.


Unfortunately, they're just as prone to break down as the season goes on too. I hope we have some plans in order as far as preserving them throughout the season like Pop and the Spurs did.

I do hope we can bring Lance back though. I am running with the belief that his improvement wasn't a fluke and he was just injured on that last stretch where he couldn't make a shot nor inbound the ball correctly.

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7/3/2016  10:32 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Great starting 5 we can make some real noise this year

Noah
KP
Melo
Lee
Rose

How should Phil mold the bench ?

It's gonna be a very tricky process for Phil to fill (Phil to Fill...lol) out the bench with the limited money he has to do so but it would be a huge start if he could get Lance, Gallo and DWill back somehow and even getting Gallo and one of Lance/DWill would be big for us. These front office people always seem to find ways to move money around or use exceptions to get things done so hopefully Phil and his team have something in their minds that they can do that will get us some legit bench pieces.

So now our starting 5 is set so....

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