nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:I'm sorry, but can't let this go...New York Knicks Continue to Affect San Antonio Spurs’ Plans
What does that mean? How did they affect San Antonio's plan before Rose? What the hell does "continue" mean?
It seems dubious that Durant would choose New York over destinations like San Antonio, Golden State, or Boston if he were to leave Oklahoma City, because Durant has hinted that teammates and opportunity to win would be high priorities in his determination of what team to decide upon.
The entire premise of the article that does nothing but reiterate obvious speculation is self-undermined by this one sentence.
In other words, 'yeah, it's highly unlikely, but I'm going to write a whole article about it anyway vastly overstating any relationship between the Rose trade and Durant going to the Spurs'.
Ugh.
The writer somewhat explained how the Knicks impacted the Spurs when he said that "I wrote yesterday about how the Spurs would benefit from Rose in New York because it took one major suitor off the free agent market for a star point like Mike Conley or Rajon Rondo." So he's saying that the Knicks actually helped the Spurs by trading for Rose cuz the Knicks won't be competing for Conley or Rondo.
Now the Knicks are in the Spurs way in going after Durant. The fact that the Knicks have Rose now is actually making them more enticing to Durant as a destination and the writer is worried about that.
Yep. When a blog writer for a 67 win team is writing about the Knicks it is a good thing.
What a fan blogger writes won't have any affect on the NY KNicks offseason in any way, shape or form.
You're coming across a bit dense on this. The dust settled and now many are beginning to realise that this Rose deal is having a very positive impact on how NBA PLAYERS are perceiving the Knicks situation. Doesn't matter if a blogger is writing about it cuz there are PLENTY of prominent media guys and players who are expressing that there is a change in the Knicks chances of landing Durant. How much of a change is hard to say but Durant is not going to be discounting the Knicks as a destination. Players aren't laughing at the notion of coming here anymore and that's a good thing for the Knicks.
We're assuming the bloggers and writers perception of the Knicks 48 hours after the Rose trade is mirrored by players, and we don't know that is the case. We don't actually know what if anything has changed, and what a fan blogger thinks is irrelevant to that question.
There was already fans hopeful for Durant before Rose. There was already speculation NY was at least on the list. We don't know if any player ever laughed at coming here.
James chose Miami and then Cleveland again. This doesn't mean the Knicks were snickered at in player circles. He didn't go to Chicago or Houston or Boston or LA either. And neither did Melo when he was free and clear for that matter.
You said it yourself, "how much of a change is hard to say"... in fact it's impossible to quantify or conclude anything about it at all.
The thing is that there is something different this time. Perhaps you are just being a bit too jaded about all of this. This writer is not the only one talking like this. It's been building and growing louder since the trade. With just the addition of Rose you now view the Knicks as having a big 3 of Melo, Rose and KP! That is no small thing. Teams win with their stars and Durant would be joining 3 other star level players in NY. That most certainly changes things. Will it be enough? We can't know for sure cuz who can know what's in Durant's head, but come on man, you've gotta be able to see how this looks to any Free Agent.
If you can't perceive that there's a good deal MORE belief in the Knicks chances then I think you're simply jaded and can't accept the good news. In just a few more days we'll see just how much of a difference Rose makes.
The opposite of what you're arguing is true, which illustrates my point. I don't think something is that different this time because I don't believe things were ever as bad as some fans - including you - seem to think it was.
This is NOT a situation where I don't recognize the Knicks bad rep has been improved greatly with Rose.
This is a situation in which I think the Knicks bad rep has been grossly overstated by fans like yourself.
Fans have a difficult time separating the analyst, beat writer, blogger, fan mindset with the players. The assume players think they they do.
I don't know that this is true.
No one could ever accuse me of thinking negatively about the Knicks but I will say that it was harder for the Knicks to land the big fish after the 17 win season and it's not hard to imagine that things are quite different now after Players have seen what KP can do and after Phil traded for Rose. It simply can't be fully quantified but to deny that it makes for a much better enticement for Free Agents is a hard case to make. You think it doesn't look better to other NBA players to see Rose, Melo and KP versus last summer when we had only Melo and Jose and not much else going into Free Agency??? You're going to have to explain how that works.
I suspect it matters ways less than some people think
Understand these guys play in the league. They travel to cities and play in the arenas, they know their fellow players, they have families with opinions about where they want to live.
Is the Knicks roster a factor? Sure.
Do I think Kevin Durant has a pretty good idea what city he wants his family to live in, what size market he wants to play in, what coach he wants to play for, what owner he wants to play for, what conference he wants to play in, what teammates he wants to leave behind or join, money he may or may not leave on the table.
This is the player's lives and fans treat it like GM mode in a videogame.
Do I think Durant might be entertaining NY and ALL the other things that comes along with playing for the Knicks (which might be more loaded than any other NBA team) BESIDES who is playing point guard?
Yes.
Do I think Rose will be the deciding factor? It was no before but yes now?
I suspect the odds of that are very long, making the impact the impact of Rose minor.
6/24/2016 7:59 PM