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yellowboy90
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6/23/2016  10:03 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Can't remember the last time we had a guard who could consistently get to the rim and finish. Marbury early on? We desperately needed a playmaker who could dribble drive like Rose or Westbrook

Except Rose doesn't finish anymore or draw fouls on his drives at an average rate.

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6/23/2016  10:04 PM
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Finestrg wrote:Thanks for the updates. Seems to be approaching things the right way with Rose. But man, I really don't want any part of Noah--want no part of paying that guy big money esp. anything long-term. His comments about being on the right track regarding targeting a big man RoLo replacement together with some other speculation out there that Phil likes Noah scares me. I mean you go make a big yet cap-friendly deal for Rose with sacrificing picks for future cap room only to piss money away on Noah? Doesn't make much sense. Keep cap open for no-brainer star power now or good young players with legit futures that are primed to take the next steps in their careers. I'm telling ya -- I see nothing wrong with bringing Jordan Bachynski aboard. I think he'd be effective and he'd come cheap. Together with Willy, that might be enough at the 5 for now.

what about Noah on a 1-yr deal? hard to criticize the move without knowing any particulars. Noah may want to rehab his value for a year similar to Rondo signing a 1 yr deal with SAC.

agree don't want to mess up long term space but Noah would be good for the culture. he plays hard, he talks on D, he holds guys accountable, he doesn't let his team sleepwalk through easy games, etc.

Even 2 yrs wouldn't hurt. If we are going after Westbrook, Giannis whatever we still need a vet big like Pau or Noah. Hopefully its not the same 4yr deal he gave Lopez unless its at a significant discount per yr which I doubt would get the it done. Jordan Hill would be a cheaper option

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6/23/2016  10:06 PM
Melo/Rose is similar to Melo/Iverson but Rose is younger and might have a lot more in the tank. Few years removed from major surgery and still only 27
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6/23/2016  10:12 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Can't remember the last time we had a guard who could consistently get to the rim and finish. Marbury early on? We desperately needed a playmaker who could dribble drive like Rose or Westbrook

Except Rose doesn't finish anymore or draw fouls on his drives at an average rate.

I couldn't follow the NBA this season. Did he progress at all towards the end of the year and start to look like his old self? Did it seem like he put the injury behind him?

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6/23/2016  10:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Can't remember the last time we had a guard who could consistently get to the rim and finish. Marbury early on? We desperately needed a playmaker who could dribble drive like Rose or Westbrook

Except Rose doesn't finish anymore or draw fouls on his drives at an average rate.

I couldn't follow the NBA this season. Did he progress at all towards the end of the year and start to look like his old self? Did it seem like he put the injury behind him?

he showed flashes but nothing like the old rose. My issue was the return we got. I wanted at least another pick. We got cap space but we still dont know if we can attract bigtime free agents yet
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6/23/2016  10:20 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Can't remember the last time we had a guard who could consistently get to the rim and finish. Marbury early on? We desperately needed a playmaker who could dribble drive like Rose or Westbrook

Except Rose doesn't finish anymore or draw fouls on his drives at an average rate.

I couldn't follow the NBA this season. Did he progress at all towards the end of the year and start to look like his old self? Did it seem like he put the injury behind him?

he showed flashes but nothing like the old rose. My issue was the return we got. I wanted at least another pick. We got cap space but we still dont know if we can attract bigtime free agents yet

i agree that we could have gotten 2 picks considering the trade had to be made only before july 1, but maybe phil felt pressured to do something before something happened on draft night.

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6/24/2016  2:32 AM
Rose gets into the paint with ease.
Where Hornachek has to work with him is to trust his teammates more. Kick out and dish to Melo, KP, and whomever else we sign in free agency.
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6/24/2016  8:03 AM
Secure BB as a free agent for 15mm and a stop gap shooter. If Durant goes to golden state them ain't no way Klay plays second fiddle to draymont, Currant and KD. Make him a Knick on a long term deal as our SG of the future.
Phil speaking on the DRose trade

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