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Chandler
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6/14/2016  2:32 PM
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:If your back court can't shoot free throws and 3s efficiently, you ain't winning shyt.

That's what the playoffs and/or history has told me. Big time pass.

I agree 100%, free throws are a must, and in todays NBA if your guards are not hitting 3's at 35 to 40%, you won't go far..


The spurs and the Rapts just experience similar fate

Yup. You pointed out the exact reason in bold. Horny ran today's NBA offense in Phoenix with some success.

Right now, he has zero point guards and shooting guards to execute his vision. How the phuck would he run that pace and space with 2 guards who can't shoot in Rondo and Derozan?

The Cavs and Warriors proved you need shooting from all angles even the coach, trainer, or ball boy has to be able to hit a 3. From the Point all the way to the Center. If Draymond Green isn't suspended and plays his stretch 5 role last night, the series is essentially over.


I think you have to hope he ran what was best for his personnel at the time. I think the Knicks will look different as a team after this offseason. I am hoping one guy the Knicks add is Gerald Green. He played great for Hornacek in Phoenix.

I think DeRozan is highly unrealistic.

But Green is an interesting name. Knicks could snag him with Miami's cap issues.

Why do you think DeRozan is unrealistic? I get that Toronto has been successful and isn't a bad city, but if he wants to play in a sexier city (and a basketball city) I think we're very attractive option. It comes down to what he wants. (Personally if i were in his shoes i'd be more wary of LA, which a lot of people speculate as a destination. That could be a sh!t show)

Not a fan of, or against, Green. He came into the league with a lot of fanfare and hasn't done much other than tantalize. He could be a gap filler but not seeing him as a piece of the puzzle

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fishmike
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6/14/2016  3:42 PM
Chandler wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:If your back court can't shoot free throws and 3s efficiently, you ain't winning shyt.

That's what the playoffs and/or history has told me. Big time pass.

I agree 100%, free throws are a must, and in todays NBA if your guards are not hitting 3's at 35 to 40%, you won't go far..


The spurs and the Rapts just experience similar fate

Yup. You pointed out the exact reason in bold. Horny ran today's NBA offense in Phoenix with some success.

Right now, he has zero point guards and shooting guards to execute his vision. How the phuck would he run that pace and space with 2 guards who can't shoot in Rondo and Derozan?

The Cavs and Warriors proved you need shooting from all angles even the coach, trainer, or ball boy has to be able to hit a 3. From the Point all the way to the Center. If Draymond Green isn't suspended and plays his stretch 5 role last night, the series is essentially over.


I think you have to hope he ran what was best for his personnel at the time. I think the Knicks will look different as a team after this offseason. I am hoping one guy the Knicks add is Gerald Green. He played great for Hornacek in Phoenix.

I think DeRozan is highly unrealistic.

But Green is an interesting name. Knicks could snag him with Miami's cap issues.

Why do you think DeRozan is unrealistic? I get that Toronto has been successful and isn't a bad city, but if he wants to play in a sexier city (and a basketball city) I think we're very attractive option. It comes down to what he wants. (Personally if i were in his shoes i'd be more wary of LA, which a lot of people speculate as a destination. That could be a sh!t show)

Not a fan of, or against, Green. He came into the league with a lot of fanfare and hasn't done much other than tantalize. He could be a gap filler but not seeing him as a piece of the puzzle

Lakers are still the Lakers. DD is from Cali, Compton I believe no less and Toronto could offer him more. Between Tor/La I cant see what would lure him to the Knicks, especially considering recent history regarding Knick dysfunction.

I would still offer him the max... but there is also the case of chasing someone and losing another. I do think Rondo can really help us and would sign, and I also think he will get other offers for sure.

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6/14/2016  3:54 PM
fishmike wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:If your back court can't shoot free throws and 3s efficiently, you ain't winning shyt.

That's what the playoffs and/or history has told me. Big time pass.

I agree 100%, free throws are a must, and in todays NBA if your guards are not hitting 3's at 35 to 40%, you won't go far..


The spurs and the Rapts just experience similar fate

Yup. You pointed out the exact reason in bold. Horny ran today's NBA offense in Phoenix with some success.

Right now, he has zero point guards and shooting guards to execute his vision. How the phuck would he run that pace and space with 2 guards who can't shoot in Rondo and Derozan?

The Cavs and Warriors proved you need shooting from all angles even the coach, trainer, or ball boy has to be able to hit a 3. From the Point all the way to the Center. If Draymond Green isn't suspended and plays his stretch 5 role last night, the series is essentially over.


I think you have to hope he ran what was best for his personnel at the time. I think the Knicks will look different as a team after this offseason. I am hoping one guy the Knicks add is Gerald Green. He played great for Hornacek in Phoenix.

I think DeRozan is highly unrealistic.

But Green is an interesting name. Knicks could snag him with Miami's cap issues.

this... good call. I wonder what Green's price would be? But a Rondo/Green addition is very feasible.

Gerald Green is a smart move vs max for Derozan. With minutes, I think green will have a similar impact on the game. Derozan is in that Melo range. Not quite a max player but paid like one.

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Chandler
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6/14/2016  4:19 PM
fishmike wrote:
Chandler wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:If your back court can't shoot free throws and 3s efficiently, you ain't winning shyt.

That's what the playoffs and/or history has told me. Big time pass.

I agree 100%, free throws are a must, and in todays NBA if your guards are not hitting 3's at 35 to 40%, you won't go far..


The spurs and the Rapts just experience similar fate

Yup. You pointed out the exact reason in bold. Horny ran today's NBA offense in Phoenix with some success.

Right now, he has zero point guards and shooting guards to execute his vision. How the phuck would he run that pace and space with 2 guards who can't shoot in Rondo and Derozan?

The Cavs and Warriors proved you need shooting from all angles even the coach, trainer, or ball boy has to be able to hit a 3. From the Point all the way to the Center. If Draymond Green isn't suspended and plays his stretch 5 role last night, the series is essentially over.


I think you have to hope he ran what was best for his personnel at the time. I think the Knicks will look different as a team after this offseason. I am hoping one guy the Knicks add is Gerald Green. He played great for Hornacek in Phoenix.

I think DeRozan is highly unrealistic.

But Green is an interesting name. Knicks could snag him with Miami's cap issues.

Why do you think DeRozan is unrealistic? I get that Toronto has been successful and isn't a bad city, but if he wants to play in a sexier city (and a basketball city) I think we're very attractive option. It comes down to what he wants. (Personally if i were in his shoes i'd be more wary of LA, which a lot of people speculate as a destination. That could be a sh!t show)

Not a fan of, or against, Green. He came into the league with a lot of fanfare and hasn't done much other than tantalize. He could be a gap filler but not seeing him as a piece of the puzzle

Lakers are still the Lakers. DD is from Cali, Compton I believe no less and Toronto could offer him more. Between Tor/La I cant see what would lure him to the Knicks, especially considering recent history regarding Knick dysfunction.

I would still offer him the max... but there is also the case of chasing someone and losing another. I do think Rondo can really help us and would sign, and I also think he will get other offers for sure.

Yes, I know about the LA connection and that makes sense, but it's simply not an attractive landing spot now, other than they have a lot of $$ (and if that's what he wants -- absolute most he can get -- then good luck to him and good riddance)

NYC is a great city to play in -- and live in especially if you're making NBA-type money. He would be nestled in nicely age-wise between Melo and KP. He's at an age where we could actually expect his game to improve (hmmm when is the last time we had a FA like that) His expectations would be much more reasonable than going to LA.

I thought he would be a great fit under the old triangle. Under the JH-style, I'm a bit more confused and this is where talent evaluators will earn their money. Will he play better or worse in a #2 role with less volume?

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Rondo and Derozan??

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