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ChuckBuck
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6/10/2016  8:27 AM
I think the major problem with Bennett isn't his talent, it's his size. He's a classic tweener.

Is he a small forward? Too phucking slow, can't dribble, not a 3 and D type.

Is he a power forward? Too phucking short, doesn't have a great motor, no real post game to speak of.

Only way he should be on the Knicks is on a minimum 1 year contract, tops, as an end of bench guy. Maybe replace Amundson.

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6/10/2016  8:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/10/2016  8:46 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:I think the major problem with Bennett isn't his talent, it's his size. He's a classic tweener.

Is he a small forward? Too phucking slow, can't dribble, not a 3 and D type.

Is he a power forward? Too phucking short, doesn't have a great motor, no real post game to speak of.

Only way he should be on the Knicks is on a minimum 1 year contract, tops, as an end of bench guy. Maybe replace Amundson.

You know what, I forgot about Amundson -- as an Amundson replacement, he'd be a no-brainer, on the talent increase alone. I'd sign up for that right now. Would he be able to take D-Will's spot in the rotation? Different question. That's what I'd like to know..

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6/10/2016  9:40 AM
A new "big snacks" is just what the Knicks need. SMH. There's plenty of talent in the NBA that wouldn't come along with a bushel of Big Macs and a 64oz Super Gulp.

I think it's always worth a look at camp, but making the roster has to be based on more than untapped potential.

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6/10/2016  9:51 AM
Bennett has asthma and his rookie year was a disaster because he was out of shape. If controlled, the kid could still reach some of his potential.
Larry Johnsnon/Barkley also were 6-5 big guys with explosive bodies. Not sure I recall his projected type player but obviously an awful pick.
I tend to root for these guys to come back like most americans: who doesn't love a comeback story!
Not sure what we an offer him in terms of minutes based on what Dwilliams does.
Sweetney or eddy? I don't think this is a case of eating disorder or depression issues.
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6/10/2016  9:59 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:I think the major problem with Bennett isn't his talent, it's his size. He's a classic tweener.

Is he a small forward? Too phucking slow, can't dribble, not a 3 and D type.

Is he a power forward? Too phucking short, doesn't have a great motor, no real post game to speak of.

Only way he should be on the Knicks is on a minimum 1 year contract, tops, as an end of bench guy. Maybe replace Amundson.

with the way the NBA is going, with GS as a model, I don't have a problem with tweeners - they have roles and can contribute if they have talent.

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6/10/2016  10:09 AM
Rick Fox and Luke Walton were Tweeners that really were not great at anything but they were great role players in the triangle. They embraced the role and did very well with it.
I don't know if Bennett has the passing ability and the stamina to move without the ball. My take is Fish had Derek Williams messed up at times.
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6/10/2016  10:21 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:I think the major problem with Bennett isn't his talent, it's his size. He's a classic tweener.

Is he a small forward? Too phucking slow, can't dribble, not a 3 and D type.

Is he a power forward? Too phucking short, doesn't have a great motor, no real post game to speak of.

Only way he should be on the Knicks is on a minimum 1 year contract, tops, as an end of bench guy. Maybe replace Amundson.

with the way the NBA is going, with GS as a model, I don't have a problem with tweeners - they have roles and can contribute if they have talent.

I don't have a problem with versatile players like Draymond Green, Iguodala, Kawhi, Paul George, Batum, Giannis etc. Tweeners with a lack of skill though...they're utterly useless. Bennett can't 3 nor D so he'll be out of the league soon.

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6/10/2016  12:05 PM
nixluva wrote:I know he's been a pretty big bust but I would actually like to see the Knicks bring him to camp. He's got so much Physical talent that I could see him finding a role in a Semi Uptempo, Semi Triangle style. He's still young and if JH and his staff could get him going he'd be a very interesting kid to have in the Mix.

I don't know what the deal has been for this kid. Why hasn't he found a role so far in the NBA? He seems like he has multiple skills. Very strange case.

Trainer says former No. 1 pick Anthony Bennett could 'flourish' with Knicks

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There's no getting around the fact that Anthony Bennett has been a bigtime bust as a former No. 1 overall draft pick.

But his trainer and his former AAU coach both say that Bennett has worked hard to get in excellent condition -- and that he could help the Knicks in a modified triangle offense under coach Jeff Hornacek this season. The 6-foot-8 power forward out of UNLV was at the Knicks free agent mini-camp this week in Tarrytown. (He also worked out at the Nets mini-camp as well.)

"I think it would be good for him," Andrew Moore, the director of player development at Impact Las Vegas, told SNY.tv. "He can play multiple spots on the floor. He can take it off the floor, he can shoot mid-range, he can make threes. So I think he's well rounded enough to fit into the triangle or any system. He can play pick-and-roll, he can roll hard, he can finish above the rim. He can catch and finish and score. He can pop and shoot threes. Any system would be great for him."

In his rookie season, Bennett, who just turned 23 in March, averaged 4.3 points and 3.0 rebounds for Cleveland. Then in July 2014, he was part of the trade that brought Kevin Love to Cleveland, and sent Bennett and fellow Canadian Andrew Wiggins to Minnesota. The power forward didn't perform that much better in Minnesota, averaging 5.2 points and 3.8 rebounds for the Timberwolves before being bought out after the season ended.

Bennett received a third chance from his hometown Toronto Raptors, but was once again bought out after a mediocre season and multiple trips to the D-League.

"It's a mental challenge for him," said Moore, who worked with Bennett for six weeks during March and April in Vegas, where Bennett attended both Findlay Prep and UNLV.

"When he was here late March/early April he got in tremendous shape, worked really hard, coming off the Raptors where he didn't play a lot. He wasn't in great shape, but he got in great shape working out twice a day, lifting weights and doing everything that he needed to do."

In April, Bennett began working out with and against NBA Draft prospects like DeAndre' Bembry of St. Joe's, Jarrod Uthoff of Iowa and Isaiah Whitehead of Seton Hall.

"He started working out with the draft guys when they came in, playing 3-on-3 and 5-on-5," Moore said. "It was a good situation for him to work with the draft guys and show his personality. He got a lot out of that.

"He's motivated, focused and eager to work and not blaming other people, not playing the victim. He was very motivated."

Moore was impressed that Bennett seemed to overcome the mental hurdle of widely being considered a bust.

"I think it's really uncharted waters in NBA history," Moore said. "There are a lot of people from media, from high school, from whatever that are doubting him. It's a daily battle for him.

"He's gotta get back in the league. Physically he can do it all."

Tony McIntyre, the director of the Canadian-based CIA Bounce AAU team who also coached Wiggins and former Kentucky guard Jamal Murray (who shares agent Mike George with Bennett), says Bennett just needs someone to give him a chance

"He's working out hard and he's dedicated to getting picked up by an NBA team," McIntyre told The 4 Quarters Podcast. "I think he's definitely on the right track to get back into the NBA and make a splash. He just needs an opportunity, he needs the right environment, he needs the right coaching and he's going to be back fine, no problem."

Moore stressed that Bennett's skill set is valuable and he can help an NBA team.

"I think what he does is very valuable these days," he said. "He's big, strong and powerful but he also has great feet so I think being able to guard fours and threes. He can actually shoot very well, which is a valuable skill. He can play the pick-and-roll game well.

"I think he can help someone, he just needs to get on the court and get reps and get somewhere where they have a role for him, they have a position for him. I think he'll flourish."


https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/trainer-says-former-no-1-pick-anthony-bennett-could-flourish-with-knicks/183113290

Why has this guy failed so far in his career? He can move very well. He's strong and athletic. Did he just come out too early? This might be a good time to give this kid a look see.

I'm hearing he looked pretty damn good at the tryout camp. I hope we bring him to summer league and hope he makes the team. He just might of needed some growing up to do and the whole NBA thing could of just been too much for him when he came in the league and that could have messed with him mentally and maybe he's grown up and if you put him with the right guys around him in the players and coaches he could become what everyone thought he would be or close to it. Maybe Phil just needs to throw a little zen his way.

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6/10/2016  12:14 PM
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SocraticBallin22 wrote:In comparison to his size and agility, would you say he has a similar skill set as Draymond Green to play that kind of role (obviously he's not as cerebral and tenacious as Green is). He's still young and his skill set is intriguing; could be gotten on the cheap like D Will.
Royce White played kind of like that as well. However, I don't know if White is going to end up playing in the nba again.

R.White has crazy talent but he has some mental issues, he refused to fly on a airplane to go from state to state which caused a problem from the start with Houston and i think it was K.McHale who was running the team at the time but he has serious other mental stuff going on with him.

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6/10/2016  12:17 PM
nixluva wrote:We have some guys in development that aren't as talented as Bennett. Even tho he hasn't shown it at the NBA level yet. There's something strange about how he's failed to find a role in the NBA. There's no particular flaw from a physical standpoint except he's short for a PF. He can move with and without the ball and he has explosion and finishing ability. He actually can shoot a little. It makes you wonder why he's struggled to find a way to make any kind of impact. I've never studied his game at all so I won't pretend to know what the heck is wrong with him, but I just find it strange.

He's pretty much the Draymond Green that didn't make it. Small PF who had a good all around game in college with his shooting, rebounding and defense.

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6/10/2016  12:33 PM
The point of interest for me started with the good reports from both Brooklyn and NYK workouts. It's not like he's devoid of talent. He clearly has a lot of talent but is he now ready to actually apply that talent to a successful role in the NBA? It would be very interesting to see him play this summer with the Knicks. I would assume there was at least some interest on the Knicks part to have invited him to the Mini Camp.

I can imagine a guy with his athletic ability might be of interest to JH. Wish I was fly on the wall for that Mini Camp. Heck for all the Knicks workouts. LOL

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6/10/2016  1:02 PM
nixluva wrote:Seems like Anthony Bennett has really trimmed down and looks lean now. This was posted on his Instagram.


Do we know what kind of underwear he is wearing? This must be important to know, since he seems to be flaunting it.
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6/10/2016  1:08 PM
If he shows something in a workout, I would have no issues giving him a look, though you would expect that he might have more success on a smaller market team.

I just want the best players we can get on the roster.

This is a case where you trust the coaching staff to make the right decision. He's still young...you just wonder about whether he has the toughness and consistency as a player to become a contributor on a good team.

No excuse for an NBA player to get out of shape, by the way, and if this was an issue with Bennett, I think it is a big negative for him.

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6/10/2016  1:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/10/2016  1:23 PM
Bennett should look to become a 5. With his strength, footspeed and arm length, I think he could excel as a backup at the position. And on the other end of the floor, he'll offer the type of spacing that teams are looking for from that position. He's had some pretty awful coaches (e.g. Mike Brown, Bryon Scott, Sam Mitchell)....maybe a capable coaching staff might be all that he needs to help find his place in this league.
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6/10/2016  2:07 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
nixluva wrote:Seems like Anthony Bennett has really trimmed down and looks lean now. This was posted on his Instagram.


Do we know what kind of underwear he is wearing? This must be important to know, since he seems to be flaunting it.

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6/10/2016  5:04 PM
is this a new low for UltimateKnicks? LOL. we just dedicated 2 pages to anthony "freaking" bennett. ANTHONY BENNETT!!

talking about trading future draft picks for valentine was tough, 30 pages of tony wroten was tougher but ANthony Bennett!!

'I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!""

folks...im joking of course. no bennett isnt a 5, no bennett isnt a draymond green (or jeff green), he shouldnt be put in the same sentence as ANY of them. lol

sure he's young but i never thought he was physically talented or motivated to play NBA basketball. sure he's young and i hope he gets a chance to shine in summer league - but until then theres nothing to be curious about

again, im half joking. i know its summer and we have nothing else to talk about. im just shocked that we're talking about bennett. lol

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/10/2016  5:26 PM
callmened wrote:is this a new low for UltimateKnicks? LOL. we just dedicated 2 pages to anthony "freaking" bennett. ANTHONY BENNETT!!

talking about trading future draft picks for valentine was tough, 30 pages of tony wroten was tougher but ANthony Bennett!!

'I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!""

folks...im joking of course. no bennett isnt a 5, no bennett isnt a draymond green (or jeff green), he shouldnt be put in the same sentence as ANY of them. lol

sure he's young but i never thought he was physically talented or motivated to play NBA basketball. sure he's young and i hope he gets a chance to shine in summer league - but until then theres nothing to be curious about

again, im half joking. i know its summer and we have nothing else to talk about. im just shocked that we're talking about bennett. lol


All I would say is that the Knicks invited him to their Vet Camp. There had to be at least some kind of interest or else why ask him to come? Reports were positive from the NYK's Camp and the Bklyn Camp.
Maybe there's nothing to it but it does make me curious about him and how he's developed. It's not so much what he was but where he is right now. Much like DWILL or Wroten I hope he can put his game together and maybe we could catch a real break with another player that was on the rocks. It just intrigues me to see if the Knicks take a shot on him. May turn into nothing at all, but it does make me curious.
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6/10/2016  9:27 PM
callmened wrote:is this a new low for UltimateKnicks? LOL. we just dedicated 2 pages to anthony "freaking" bennett. ANTHONY BENNETT!!

talking about trading future draft picks for valentine was tough, 30 pages of tony wroten was tougher but ANthony Bennett!!

'I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!""

folks...im joking of course. no bennett isnt a 5, no bennett isnt a draymond green (or jeff green), he shouldnt be put in the same sentence as ANY of them. lol

sure he's young but i never thought he was physically talented or motivated to play NBA basketball. sure he's young and i hope he gets a chance to shine in summer league - but until then theres nothing to be curious about

again, im half joking. i know its summer and we have nothing else to talk about. im just shocked that we're talking about bennett. lol

Shotgun approach...you look at enough players and maybe you pick up a keeper or two. Pretty common technique, and needed for a team with no draft picks at this time and one with open spots on the roster.

I'm doubtful about him as a player, and was totally stunned when he was chosen #1 (I seem to recall reading that he was surprised, too.}, but the Knicks giving him a look and guys around here speculating about him does not seem out of the ordinary.

So what do you think- offer him $60M/4yrs?

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6/10/2016  9:34 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
callmened wrote:is this a new low for UltimateKnicks? LOL. we just dedicated 2 pages to anthony "freaking" bennett. ANTHONY BENNETT!!

talking about trading future draft picks for valentine was tough, 30 pages of tony wroten was tougher but ANthony Bennett!!

'I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!""

folks...im joking of course. no bennett isnt a 5, no bennett isnt a draymond green (or jeff green), he shouldnt be put in the same sentence as ANY of them. lol

sure he's young but i never thought he was physically talented or motivated to play NBA basketball. sure he's young and i hope he gets a chance to shine in summer league - but until then theres nothing to be curious about

again, im half joking. i know its summer and we have nothing else to talk about. im just shocked that we're talking about bennett. lol

Shotgun approach...you look at enough players and maybe you pick up a keeper or two. Pretty common technique, and needed for a team with no draft picks at this time and one with open spots on the roster.

I'm doubtful about him as a player, and was totally stunned when he was chosen #1 (I seem to recall reading that he was surprised, too.}, but the Knicks giving him a look and guys around here speculating about him does not seem out of the ordinary.

So what do you think- offer him $60M/4yrs?

haahhaahahhahahahaahah...i almost choked on this lemonade im drinking! yeah 4 ys 60 mill. ahhaahah

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/10/2016  10:48 PM
callmened wrote:is this a new low for UltimateKnicks? LOL. we just dedicated 2 pages to anthony "freaking" bennett. ANTHONY BENNETT!!

talking about trading future draft picks for valentine was tough, 30 pages of tony wroten was tougher but ANthony Bennett!!

'I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!""

folks...im joking of course. no bennett isnt a 5, no bennett isnt a draymond green (or jeff green), he shouldnt be put in the same sentence as ANY of them. lol

sure he's young but i never thought he was physically talented or motivated to play NBA basketball. sure he's young and i hope he gets a chance to shine in summer league - but until then theres nothing to be curious about

again, im half joking. i know its summer and we have nothing else to talk about. im just shocked that we're talking about bennett. lol


When you are making a list of guys that you invite to a vet free agent workout you don't invite a former #1 overall guy that is 23 and reportedly looked great in his workout in Brooklyn?
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