http://www.wsj.com/articles/knicks-meet-with-frank-vogel-draw-nearer-to-decision-on-head-coach-1463358700

Knicks president Phil Jackson and general manager Steve Mills met with ex-Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel last week ahead of the NBA combine, a person familiar with the matter confirmed.

The meeting took place in Los Angeles on Wednesday, as the NBA Draft combine was set to begin in Chicago. The West Coast interview with Vogel helps explain why neither Jackson nor Mills were taking part in interviews with potential draft prospects in Chicago, and why assistant general manager Allan Houston took the lead in that regard instead.

During the meeting, first reported by the New York Daily News, Vogel spent a portion of his interview suggesting he’d be able to use the triangle, or at least a number of its principles, on offense if he got the job. Vogel is known mostly for his defensive chops and his ability to work with the triangle system is likely to be a key consideration, given Jackson’s desire to keep it in place going forward.

The Knicks, realizing that they may have to make a choice quickly since Vogel and former-Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt are under consideration elsewhere, are nearing the end of their search and hope to have the process wrapped up within the next week or so, according to the person. New York could request secondary meetings with candidates in coming days.

Aside from Vogel and Blatt, Kurt Rambis—the Knicks’ interim coach since early February—is also under consideration for the position. He was at the combine with the Knicks’ contingent this past week, but declined to comment when asked about the search.

Vogel has been on the market for a little over a week, after being cut loose by the Pacers. Indiana was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

The 42-year-old, who led Indiana to a 250-181 mark and helped the Pacers finish among the top-10 in defensive efficiency during each of his five full years on the job, served as a scout with the Jackson-coached Lakers during the 2005 season.

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Herring on the Vogel interview.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/knicks-meet-with-frank-vogel-draw-nearer-to-decision-on-head-coach-1463358700

Knicks president Phil Jackson and general manager Steve Mills met with ex-Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel last week ahead of the NBA combine, a person familiar with the matter confirmed.

The meeting took place in Los Angeles on Wednesday, as the NBA Draft combine was set to begin in Chicago. The West Coast interview with Vogel helps explain why neither Jackson nor Mills were taking part in interviews with potential draft prospects in Chicago, and why assistant general manager Allan Houston took the lead in that regard instead.

During the meeting, first reported by the New York Daily News, Vogel spent a portion of his interview suggesting he’d be able to use the triangle, or at least a number of its principles, on offense if he got the job. Vogel is known mostly for his defensive chops and his ability to work with the triangle system is likely to be a key consideration, given Jackson’s desire to keep it in place going forward.

The Knicks, realizing that they may have to make a choice quickly since Vogel and former-Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt are under consideration elsewhere, are nearing the end of their search and hope to have the process wrapped up within the next week or so, according to the person. New York could request secondary meetings with candidates in coming days.

Aside from Vogel and Blatt, Kurt Rambis—the Knicks’ interim coach since early February—is also under consideration for the position. He was at the combine with the Knicks’ contingent this past week, but declined to comment when asked about the search.

Vogel has been on the market for a little over a week, after being cut loose by the Pacers. Indiana was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

The 42-year-old, who led Indiana to a 250-181 mark and helped the Pacers finish among the top-10 in defensive efficiency during each of his five full years on the job, served as a scout with the Jackson-coached Lakers during the 2005 season.

Wow look at all of that competence, and professionalism from our FO.

How many professional reporters made themselves look bushleague in the last week? I bet they released this info to Herring because he was one of the only reporters who didn't get caught up in the nonsense of forgetting their job is to report the news and not spread rumors.....

Literally none of the rumors have been proven incorrect yet. And I highly doubt the source was authorized to talk to Herring, knowing Dolan's media policy. The "Phil lovers" make just as many if not more assumptions than the supposed "Phil haters" (aka anyone who dare not "trust the process")

There's a very decent chance that Phil's top pick of Rambis (as reported by Ramona Shelburne, one of the most respected writers in the NBA) was refused by Dolan and Mills (as has been reported) and Mills then set up interviews for Phil with Blatt and Vogel (as has been reported).

Why some people only think reporters are getting valid information when it fits what they already believe is beyond me. There's nothing in this report to suggest that Phil's top choice wasn't Rambis. If anything, it confirms a lot of what the supposed "Phil haters" suspected - Phil wanted Rambis, hence his little Triangle camp, but has been told he has to interview some real candidates. Interviews Mills has arranged and attended.

Hey, just like you guys told me Melo loved Lin and wouldn't have a problem with him, it's totally cool. I just like to talk about what I think is actually going on with the team. Because I think the way this coaching search plays out will impact how long Phil stays here.

For the record - I think it'll be Blatt. I would prefer Vogel and I think Vogel is more likely than Rambis at this point. But I think it'll be Blatt. And I think Blatt, Mills, and Melo will be Knicks longer than Phil.

crzymdups wrote:

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Herring on the Vogel interview.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/knicks-meet-with-frank-vogel-draw-nearer-to-decision-on-head-coach-1463358700

Knicks president Phil Jackson and general manager Steve Mills met with ex-Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel last week ahead of the NBA combine, a person familiar with the matter confirmed.

The meeting took place in Los Angeles on Wednesday, as the NBA Draft combine was set to begin in Chicago. The West Coast interview with Vogel helps explain why neither Jackson nor Mills were taking part in interviews with potential draft prospects in Chicago, and why assistant general manager Allan Houston took the lead in that regard instead.

During the meeting, first reported by the New York Daily News, Vogel spent a portion of his interview suggesting he’d be able to use the triangle, or at least a number of its principles, on offense if he got the job. Vogel is known mostly for his defensive chops and his ability to work with the triangle system is likely to be a key consideration, given Jackson’s desire to keep it in place going forward.

The Knicks, realizing that they may have to make a choice quickly since Vogel and former-Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt are under consideration elsewhere, are nearing the end of their search and hope to have the process wrapped up within the next week or so, according to the person. New York could request secondary meetings with candidates in coming days.

Aside from Vogel and Blatt, Kurt Rambis—the Knicks’ interim coach since early February—is also under consideration for the position. He was at the combine with the Knicks’ contingent this past week, but declined to comment when asked about the search.

Vogel has been on the market for a little over a week, after being cut loose by the Pacers. Indiana was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

The 42-year-old, who led Indiana to a 250-181 mark and helped the Pacers finish among the top-10 in defensive efficiency during each of his five full years on the job, served as a scout with the Jackson-coached Lakers during the 2005 season.

Wow look at all of that competence, and professionalism from our FO.

How many professional reporters made themselves look bushleague in the last week? I bet they released this info to Herring because he was one of the only reporters who didn't get caught up in the nonsense of forgetting their job is to report the news and not spread rumors.....

Literally none of the rumors have been proven incorrect yet. And I highly doubt the source was authorized to talk to Herring, knowing Dolan's media policy. The "Phil lovers" make just as many if not more assumptions than the supposed "Phil haters" (aka anyone who dare not "trust the process")

There's a very decent chance that Phil's top pick of Rambis (as reported by Ramona Shelburne, one of the most respected writers in the NBA) was refused by Dolan and Mills (as has been reported) and Mills then set up interviews for Phil with Blatt and Vogel (as has been reported).

Why some people only think reporters are getting valid information when it fits what they already believe is beyond me. There's nothing in this report to suggest that Phil's top choice wasn't Rambis. If anything, it confirms a lot of what the supposed "Phil haters" suspected - Phil wanted Rambis, hence his little Triangle camp, but has been told he has to interview some real candidates. Interviews Mills has arranged and attended.

Hey, just like you guys told me Melo loved Lin and wouldn't have a problem with him, it's totally cool. I just like to talk about what I think is actually going on with the team. Because I think the way this coaching search plays out will impact how long Phil stays here.

For the record - I think it'll be Blatt. I would prefer Vogel and I think Vogel is more likely than Rambis at this point. But I think it'll be Blatt. And I think Blatt, Mills, and Melo will be Knicks longer than Phil.

I just trust Herring way more than any of the other sources when it comes to knicks stuff. He trying to keep his objectivity by not being a fan at the same time he doesn't hate the knicks either. Also I remembered Phil doing mind games with LA's media and they were just a lot less combative there because he was winning and they respected the Lakers organization. The issue with NY is the media here almost got him hit with tampering charges (Isola) and dressed him up as Nero in front of a burning MSG.

No semi normal person is just going to go on vacation while they are being accused of being incompetent. You had to assume they had some plan going on and we've heard whispers about it leading up to now. Including Mills reaching out to both Vogel and Blatt, that leads directly to the situation of them being up for second interviews now. Phil has arguably the two best coaches outside of thibs and joerger vying for the knicks job. Thibs got a better job and Joerger went to a team he wanted for a while. So Vogel and Blatt are the two best he reasonably could of got. How can anyone be mad at him for that or the people rooting for him to continue being competent and professional as the knicks President?

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Herring on the Vogel interview.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/knicks-meet-with-frank-vogel-draw-nearer-to-decision-on-head-coach-1463358700

Knicks president Phil Jackson and general manager Steve Mills met with ex-Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel last week ahead of the NBA combine, a person familiar with the matter confirmed.

The meeting took place in Los Angeles on Wednesday, as the NBA Draft combine was set to begin in Chicago. The West Coast interview with Vogel helps explain why neither Jackson nor Mills were taking part in interviews with potential draft prospects in Chicago, and why assistant general manager Allan Houston took the lead in that regard instead.

During the meeting, first reported by the New York Daily News, Vogel spent a portion of his interview suggesting he’d be able to use the triangle, or at least a number of its principles, on offense if he got the job. Vogel is known mostly for his defensive chops and his ability to work with the triangle system is likely to be a key consideration, given Jackson’s desire to keep it in place going forward.

The Knicks, realizing that they may have to make a choice quickly since Vogel and former-Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt are under consideration elsewhere, are nearing the end of their search and hope to have the process wrapped up within the next week or so, according to the person. New York could request secondary meetings with candidates in coming days.

Aside from Vogel and Blatt, Kurt Rambis—the Knicks’ interim coach since early February—is also under consideration for the position. He was at the combine with the Knicks’ contingent this past week, but declined to comment when asked about the search.

Vogel has been on the market for a little over a week, after being cut loose by the Pacers. Indiana was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

The 42-year-old, who led Indiana to a 250-181 mark and helped the Pacers finish among the top-10 in defensive efficiency during each of his five full years on the job, served as a scout with the Jackson-coached Lakers during the 2005 season.

Wow look at all of that competence, and professionalism from our FO.

How many professional reporters made themselves look bushleague in the last week? I bet they released this info to Herring because he was one of the only reporters who didn't get caught up in the nonsense of forgetting their job is to report the news and not spread rumors.....

Literally none of the rumors have been proven incorrect yet. And I highly doubt the source was authorized to talk to Herring, knowing Dolan's media policy. The "Phil lovers" make just as many if not more assumptions than the supposed "Phil haters" (aka anyone who dare not "trust the process")

There's a very decent chance that Phil's top pick of Rambis (as reported by Ramona Shelburne, one of the most respected writers in the NBA) was refused by Dolan and Mills (as has been reported) and Mills then set up interviews for Phil with Blatt and Vogel (as has been reported).

Why some people only think reporters are getting valid information when it fits what they already believe is beyond me. There's nothing in this report to suggest that Phil's top choice wasn't Rambis. If anything, it confirms a lot of what the supposed "Phil haters" suspected - Phil wanted Rambis, hence his little Triangle camp, but has been told he has to interview some real candidates. Interviews Mills has arranged and attended.

Hey, just like you guys told me Melo loved Lin and wouldn't have a problem with him, it's totally cool. I just like to talk about what I think is actually going on with the team. Because I think the way this coaching search plays out will impact how long Phil stays here.

For the record - I think it'll be Blatt. I would prefer Vogel and I think Vogel is more likely than Rambis at this point. But I think it'll be Blatt. And I think Blatt, Mills, and Melo will be Knicks longer than Phil.

I just trust Herring way more than any of the other sources when it comes to knicks stuff. He trying to keep his objectivity by not being a fan at the same time he doesn't hate the knicks either. Also I remembered Phil doing mind games with LA's media and they were just a lot less combative there because he was winning and they respected the Lakers organization. The issue with NY is the media here almost got him hit with tampering charges (Isola) and dressed him up as Nero in front of a burning MSG.

No semi normal person is just going to go on vacation while they are being accused of being incompetent. You had to assume they had some plan going on and we've heard whispers about it leading up to now. Including Mills reaching out to both Vogel and Blatt, that leads directly to the situation of them being up for second interviews now. Phil has arguably the two best coaches outside of thibs and joerger vying for the knicks job. Thibs got a better job and Joerger went to a team he wanted for a while. So Vogel and Blatt are the two best he reasonably could of got. How can anyone be mad at him for that or the people rooting for him to continue being competent and professional as the knicks President?

I'm not mad at him - and if I'm offbase on the Rambis thing, I'll cop to it. I just think it is a very interesting time for the Knicks in terms of which way the Jackson Presidency goes. Will it be full Triangle commitment? Will it be a passing of the torch to someone outside his coaching tree?

We shall see. I agree about Herring though. For him to be reporting this all is somewhat reassuring. If it is Vogel, I will get a Phil Jackson tattoo on one hand and a Triangle tattoo on the other.

crzymdups wrote:

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

wargames wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Herring on the Vogel interview.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/knicks-meet-with-frank-vogel-draw-nearer-to-decision-on-head-coach-1463358700

Knicks president Phil Jackson and general manager Steve Mills met with ex-Indiana Pacers coach Frank Vogel last week ahead of the NBA combine, a person familiar with the matter confirmed.

The meeting took place in Los Angeles on Wednesday, as the NBA Draft combine was set to begin in Chicago. The West Coast interview with Vogel helps explain why neither Jackson nor Mills were taking part in interviews with potential draft prospects in Chicago, and why assistant general manager Allan Houston took the lead in that regard instead.

During the meeting, first reported by the New York Daily News, Vogel spent a portion of his interview suggesting he’d be able to use the triangle, or at least a number of its principles, on offense if he got the job. Vogel is known mostly for his defensive chops and his ability to work with the triangle system is likely to be a key consideration, given Jackson’s desire to keep it in place going forward.

The Knicks, realizing that they may have to make a choice quickly since Vogel and former-Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt are under consideration elsewhere, are nearing the end of their search and hope to have the process wrapped up within the next week or so, according to the person. New York could request secondary meetings with candidates in coming days.

Aside from Vogel and Blatt, Kurt Rambis—the Knicks’ interim coach since early February—is also under consideration for the position. He was at the combine with the Knicks’ contingent this past week, but declined to comment when asked about the search.

Vogel has been on the market for a little over a week, after being cut loose by the Pacers. Indiana was eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by Toronto.

The 42-year-old, who led Indiana to a 250-181 mark and helped the Pacers finish among the top-10 in defensive efficiency during each of his five full years on the job, served as a scout with the Jackson-coached Lakers during the 2005 season.

Wow look at all of that competence, and professionalism from our FO.

How many professional reporters made themselves look bushleague in the last week? I bet they released this info to Herring because he was one of the only reporters who didn't get caught up in the nonsense of forgetting their job is to report the news and not spread rumors.....

Literally none of the rumors have been proven incorrect yet. And I highly doubt the source was authorized to talk to Herring, knowing Dolan's media policy. The "Phil lovers" make just as many if not more assumptions than the supposed "Phil haters" (aka anyone who dare not "trust the process")

There's a very decent chance that Phil's top pick of Rambis (as reported by Ramona Shelburne, one of the most respected writers in the NBA) was refused by Dolan and Mills (as has been reported) and Mills then set up interviews for Phil with Blatt and Vogel (as has been reported).

Why some people only think reporters are getting valid information when it fits what they already believe is beyond me. There's nothing in this report to suggest that Phil's top choice wasn't Rambis. If anything, it confirms a lot of what the supposed "Phil haters" suspected - Phil wanted Rambis, hence his little Triangle camp, but has been told he has to interview some real candidates. Interviews Mills has arranged and attended.

Hey, just like you guys told me Melo loved Lin and wouldn't have a problem with him, it's totally cool. I just like to talk about what I think is actually going on with the team. Because I think the way this coaching search plays out will impact how long Phil stays here.

For the record - I think it'll be Blatt. I would prefer Vogel and I think Vogel is more likely than Rambis at this point. But I think it'll be Blatt. And I think Blatt, Mills, and Melo will be Knicks longer than Phil.

I just trust Herring way more than any of the other sources when it comes to knicks stuff. He trying to keep his objectivity by not being a fan at the same time he doesn't hate the knicks either. Also I remembered Phil doing mind games with LA's media and they were just a lot less combative there because he was winning and they respected the Lakers organization. The issue with NY is the media here almost got him hit with tampering charges (Isola) and dressed him up as Nero in front of a burning MSG.

No semi normal person is just going to go on vacation while they are being accused of being incompetent. You had to assume they had some plan going on and we've heard whispers about it leading up to now. Including Mills reaching out to both Vogel and Blatt, that leads directly to the situation of them being up for second interviews now. Phil has arguably the two best coaches outside of thibs and joerger vying for the knicks job. Thibs got a better job and Joerger went to a team he wanted for a while. So Vogel and Blatt are the two best he reasonably could of got. How can anyone be mad at him for that or the people rooting for him to continue being competent and professional as the knicks President?

I'm not mad at him - and if I'm offbase on the Rambis thing, I'll cop to it. I just think it is a very interesting time for the Knicks in terms of which way the Jackson Presidency goes. Will it be full Triangle commitment? Will it be a passing of the torch to someone outside his coaching tree?

We shall see. I agree about Herring though. For him to be reporting this all is somewhat reassuring. If it is Vogel, I will get a Phil Jackson tattoo on one hand and a Triangle tattoo on the other.

Phils face on your hand? You'll never jerk off again!!!

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:SIGH! It's so funny to see the media constantly trying to make Phil look bad but failing to actually get the scoop on any of his moves. How about the fans calling Phil all kinds of names and wanting Dolan to take over? My favorite is the insinuation that Phil is being pressured to interview coaches!!! REALLY??? Like he's not concerned with what is best for the team. He most certainly does care about this franchise and he and his staff have clearly been working to improve the team. No matter who Phil hires can we cut all the BS accusations???

All this must be hard for you to take after you rationalized so hard why Rambis was the right choice.

Why would Chris Herring be making BS accusations again?

WRONG!!! You simply can't read cuz i've stated over and over again that I wanted Vogel or Blatt but you go ahead and spout this nonsense if it makes you feel better.

nixluva wrote:None of that means that Rambis couldn't possibly win games in NY if he were given the Head Coaching job. I'm not even hoping for Rambis to get the job. I prefer Vogel or Blatt, but I just don't think Rambis is as bad as the record he's accumulated would indicate.

What makes the MOST difference is not the Head Coach but the talent on the roster. This has been proven over and over. Only the GREAT Coaches have any huge impact. Most average NBA coaches would be interchangeable. In our case Phil is looking for someone who fits this specific situation. Phil wants someone he can work with. He's got a great relationship with his Front Office team and he wants a coach that fits into that dynamic. Right or wrong that's what Phil is looking for.