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5/15/2016  12:01 PM
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Thanks for adding to the thread Nix and i agree that there's some good names on this list and would love to come away with at least one of them.

So where you at Briggs?? Tell me what you think about these kids.

Out of these guys I'd take Gbingie. I have him ranked at 25

The only guy you like out of all of these listed is Gbingie?? You don't like Whitehead at all??
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5/15/2016  12:05 PM
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wargames wrote:Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.

We don't have a draft pick but I love Bryn Forbes but I think I'd be interested at developing him into a triangle PG.

I don't see how we can get a pick high enough to get in the middle to upper half of the 1st to get Forbes without it involving a future 1st or Hermangomez and i don't want to do either of those choices.
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5/15/2016  12:07 PM
I think Gbinije is probably more a product of his age and maturity giving him an advantage over his younger counterparts. The guy will turn 24 next month and isn't a great player but a mid second round pick guy.

Whitehead is a guard who has not shot over 40% from the field on the college level that is a problem. He needs a ton of work and is probably an UFA type if he does not go back to school.

Now, I am still confused at the lack of love Josh Hart is getting from some of the draft sites. HE is a guard who has shot over 50% from the field every year he has played. His 3pt shooting went down to around 36% but in his sophomore year he shot almost 46% from 3. Is this because he has not signed with an agent and might go back to school? If I was a team I would guarantee him that we will draft you or give him a 1st round type deal if he shuts it down and go drafted. Give the player a 3 yr deal with the 2nd and 3rd years partially guaranteed this way the team has his full bird rights.
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5/15/2016  12:17 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
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wargames wrote:Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.

We don't have a draft pick but I love Bryn Forbes but I think I'd be interested at developing him into a triangle PG.

I don't see how we can get a pick high enough to get in the middle to upper half of the 1st to get Forbes without it involving a future 1st or Hermangomez and i don't want to do either of those choices.

I think Forbes is a mid range 2 but it won't surprise me if a golden state takes him at 30

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5/15/2016  12:18 PM
So you wanna give a UDFA a contract that a 1st round pick would get? Doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do especially a team in a rebuild needing all the money we can get for the rebuild.
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5/15/2016  12:21 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
wargames wrote:Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.

We don't have a draft pick but I love Bryn Forbes but I think I'd be interested at developing him into a triangle PG.

I don't see how we can get a pick high enough to get in the middle to upper half of the 1st to get Forbes without it involving a future 1st or Hermangomez and i don't want to do either of those choices.

I think Forbes is a mid range 2 but it won't surprise me if a golden state takes him at 30

Oh shyt my bad, i must of been thinking of Valentine for some reason when i posted that cause Forbes isn't even a projected 1st round pick.
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5/15/2016  12:49 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:So you wanna give a UDFA a contract that a 1st round pick would get? Doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do especially a team in a rebuild needing all the money we can get for the rebuild.

Actually it is very smart for a rebuilding team if they can get partial guarantees in the 2nd and 3rd year. I amnot talking about high first round money but a salary similar to the deal that was reported about Hernangomez, another 2nd rd pick. Salaries under $2m will not hurt teams like the kNicks.
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5/15/2016  1:00 PM
I wonder if the Knicks will try to go after Hernangomez brother. He is a free agent too and could come over this year. He is slated to be a low second round pick but if he doesn't work out for anyone and start making noise about wanting to stay in Europe what would other teams do?
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5/15/2016  1:21 PM
From Draft Express's coverage of the Combine:

Michael Gbinije, Senior, SG, Syracuse
17 points, 2 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals, 0 turnovers, 5-8 2P, 2-4 3P, 1-2 FT, 27 minutes

The Syracuse guard helped himself on Friday by using his athleticism to fly around on both ends of the floor, digging in defensively, attacking the rim and making enough shots from the perimeter to keep the defense honest. Gbinije played both on and off the ball and defended multiple positions with success. He's very physical at 6' 7” 205 pounds and got into the body of his opponents on the defensive end. Gbinije is a bit of a streaky shooter, especially from the NBA line, as he has a wide base and the ball doesn't always come out smoothly or at the top of his jump. With that said, he was able to knock down a corner three, make an off screen three and use his physicality to get into the paint. Gbinije also finished a tip dunk and did some damage in transition. While the near-24-year-old was productive on Friday, he's not quite great in one area and struggles a little bit to create high percentage shots at the end of the clock. Gbinije isn't loaded with upside but he has positional size, solid athleticism and enough shot-making ability to make him an acceptable option for a team picking in the second round.

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5/15/2016  1:28 PM
Knicksmet with Malachai Richardon. Also Gaines is there.
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5/15/2016  1:36 PM
Also from SI.com's standouts:

Michael Gbinije

The late-blooming Gbinije, coming off an unlikely Final Four run, continues to turn heads with his playmaking ability and defensive instincts at 6' 7". The Syracuse star turned in 17 points, four assists, four steals and a pair of threes, and versatility will be the calling card for one of the oldest players in the draft (he turns 24 in June). He worked out for the Spurs in private before the draft, and strong individual workouts in the next couple weeks will strengthen his case as a second-rounder. There are few pure point guards in this draft, and Gbinije isn’t one of them, but there are plenty of ballhandlers with upside. Put him in that category.
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5/15/2016  4:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/15/2016  4:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Knicksmet with Malachai Richardon. Also Gaines is there.

I'm a Syracuse fan and M.Richardson should of went back to school for another year cause he's definitely not ready. Now of course a lot of these kids aren't ready but he's gonna need time and will be a project for sure. I really like him and think he's got a chance to be something in a few years and maybe i'm just being greedy cause i really wanted him back with Cuse cause i think he would of been really good in his 2nd year but not sure if Phil is looking for someone that's gonna be so far away from being ready, but what do i know, some of these kids just have what it takes to be ready sooner than anyone would think.
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5/15/2016  4:48 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Knicksmet with Malachai Richardon. Also Gaines is there.

I'm a Syracuse fan and M.Richardson should of went back to school for another year cause he's definitely not ready. Now of course a lot of these kids aren't ready but he's gonna need time and will be a project for sure. I really like him and think he's got a chance to be something in a few years and maybe i'm just being greedy cause i really wanted him back with Cuse cause i think he would of been really good in his 2nd year but not sure if Phil is looking for someone that's gonna be so far away from being ready, but what do i know, some of these kids just have what it takes to be ready sooner than anyone would think.


Draft net has him going at 19 in their current mock. I doubt the Knicks could get a first rounder this year without giving up a future first. I do think Boston will try to do something with a few of their picks.
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5/15/2016  5:26 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:Knicksmet with Malachai Richardon. Also Gaines is there.

I'm a Syracuse fan and M.Richardson should of went back to school for another year cause he's definitely not ready. Now of course a lot of these kids aren't ready but he's gonna need time and will be a project for sure. I really like him and think he's got a chance to be something in a few years and maybe i'm just being greedy cause i really wanted him back with Cuse cause i think he would of been really good in his 2nd year but not sure if Phil is looking for someone that's gonna be so far away from being ready, but what do i know, some of these kids just have what it takes to be ready sooner than anyone would think.


Draft net has him going at 19 in their current mock. I doubt the Knicks could get a first rounder this year without giving up a future first. I do think Boston will try to do something with a few of their picks.

They have him that high at 19?? Like i said, what do i know about how good these kids will be.
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5/15/2016  8:47 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Knicksmet with Malachai Richardon. Also Gaines is there.

There's just no way we should get into drafting--or using a draft pick on ANY player not proven to shoot over a reasonably efficient mark from the floor even at the freshmen level. I can accept 3 pt mediocrity in a young player but 2 pt shooting has to be above 45% Any position. I can provide a lot of evidence these players (for example of recent times Marcus Smart) who dont elevate efficiency into the pros--and that makes sense right?

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5/15/2016  9:12 PM
Ill make the case for my two main draft picks choices.

A. I do NOT have to acquire either using a future #1.

Pick #1 Derrick Jones G/F(NBA comparison Gerald Wilkins) 6-7 190 Vertical 45 inches

Derrick Jones was the best two way freshmen basketball player in the nation. He just started taking off when his season was abruptly halted.

His last 3 games he was able to play above 30 minutes and these are the stats


33 minutes 21 points game 75% from the field 24/28 from the FL line 83% 0/2 from 3 24 rebounds 8 avg 6 assists (2 average) 7 steals (2.3 avg) 8 blocks (2.7 avg)

for the year the entire year he shot 67% from 2

His 40 min avg for the year 21.4 8.3 2 1.7 steal 2.5 blocks 59%

The fact that his season got cut short short changed his drafting status and thats where we should jump in. You can see from his offseason video that his 3 point shot has made a lot of strides.

This is the MOST efficient two way player with the highest athletic ability in the entire freshmen class--hes the best athlete coming into the NBA.


pick #2 Bryn Forbes

To me hes a role player with a nice upside. What do you get--the best shot up shooter coming into the nBA high volume high% 3 point shooting--a HUGE commodity. He went to work on his PG skills after the season went finished. As a triangle team--we use combo guards and his 3 pt shooting is a weapon in the triangle--you cant leave him from 30 feet. If he uses the next 18 months to improve his ballhandling and passing--then you have a 6-3 PG capable of shooting 50% from 3 on volume

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