Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:Crazy money. I can't comprehend ETurn value being that high.

No one is going to be happy with any of the contracts given this season. There is no way you get a good starting player for under 12 mil in free agency this summer. We have to get adjusted to that. Turner for 15 mil is like getting Turner for 7 mil 2 years ago. It's just the way things are going to work.

I get it. What I don't know is what ETurn's personality is like. Guys like nick Young and JR smith are superior talents but they are not superior characters (not bad guys mind you). Is this guy quirky? While not really worthy of his lofty draft spot at number 2, this kid has talent but a career not seen to his potential and give him a big time deal just has been all too familiar ring to it.

In a world where Shump gets $10 mil per for 4 years, I can't put a value on ETurn.

BRIGGS wrote:Its sick thats why when I said Seth Curry 7.5mm per--thats like it was 3-4mm 2 years ago. Accept that the cap is going up to 110mm by next year.

Actually you said he'd get $10 mil per.

fishmike wrote:Great.. $15mm for a guard who cant shoot and is well rounded but really above average at nothing. Please people please.

He's not a bad mid range shooter at all, it's his 3 ball that needs the work.

newyorker4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:Great.. $15mm for a guard who cant shoot and is well rounded but really above average at nothing. Please people please.

He's not a bad mid range shooter at all, it's his 3 ball that needs the work.

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Its sick thats why when I said Seth Curry 7.5mm per--thats like it was 3-4mm 2 years ago. Accept that the cap is going up to 110mm by next year.

Actually you said he'd get $10 mil per.

No i didnt? Ive said 6-8mm but Id pay on the high side.

dk7th wrote:people were moaning about robin lopez and his contract and he worked out great for phil jackson and the triangle. i imagine the same sort of response if evan turner comes here. i really like his game for new york in the triangle, though at first he will seem to be overpaid even with the higher cap. but he will absolutely contribute to the kind of synergy every contender must eventually possess.

His passing and ball movement would be refreshing compared to Afflalo. No doubt is a good fit. But we will need the right PG. Someone that can shoot, not named Calderon.

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

dk7th wrote:people were moaning about robin lopez and his contract and he worked out great for phil jackson and the triangle. i imagine the same sort of response if evan turner comes here. i really like his game for new york in the triangle, though at first he will seem to be overpaid even with the higher cap. but he will absolutely contribute to the kind of synergy every contender must eventually possess.

wow... I completely agree. anyway, I think Turner makes sense and I think sometimes players make the jump a little later than others. While fish is right, he doesn't do anything great, that also omits that he pretty good at everything. I loved his game at Ohio State. Plus our length would be absurd 2 through 5.

All that said I sure hope it doesn't cost $15mm... I don't like the sound of that...

that's the thing... for a cheap role player Turner is awesome. He really is. He's a nice glue guy. He is also a low impact player. He is not moving the needle nearly enough to justify throwing bigtime money at. He's a guy that is going to look for a big payday. When he doesn't get it I would be great with an AA type contract. 2 years $16mm. Awesome. If someone wants to give him 4/$60mm enjoy and good luck.

I agree with that completely. I think I would offer something like 5 year and $50 million. I think that's overpaying. But with the cap likely to explode I think that a deal like that will look awesome in two to three years. In a different offseason I'd be more likely to say thanks but no thanks if his agent tried to get something like that.

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:Crazy money. I can't comprehend ETurn value being that high.

No one is going to be happy with any of the contracts given this season. There is no way you get a good starting player for under 12 mil in free agency this summer. We have to get adjusted to that. Turner for 15 mil is like getting Turner for 7 mil 2 years ago. It's just the way things are going to work.

I get it. What I don't know is what ETurn's personality is like. Guys like nick Young and JR smith are superior talents but they are not superior characters (not bad guys mind you). Is this guy quirky? While not really worthy of his lofty draft spot at number 2, this kid has talent but a career not seen to his potential and give him a big time deal just has been all too familiar ring to it.

In a world where Shump gets $10 mil per for 4 years, I can't put a value on ETurn.

This brave new world is getting really scary. I'm looking at our own roster, and DWill is opting out. I projected him taking Affalo's dollars, but the way things are going, he'll be looking for more. I definitely value his upside over Shump's.